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What should I try next when I get back?

neosapien

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I consider myself a child of science and as such I like to experiment. When I first started this addicting hobby, I didn't know much and jumped in with both feet after a friend of a friend died and his wife wanted all the equipment out of the house. My first grow was from seed in rockwool. Literally just rockwool lol. I used the slabs and when the roots started poking out the bottom I just put another slab under and the whole monstrosity just sat on a cake pan. It looked like the leaning tower of weeda. I fed them by hand everyday. It was ghetto as fuck but also wildly successful. Since then I've tried soil in buckets, dwc in buckets and an aero table that I was gifted. After having multiple successful harvests using those growing methods I am wanting to try and conquer a different method. So, what do you guys think? What have you been running? Ebb/Flow, NFT? I'm also interested in variations of techniques that I've already tried. I'm more interested in a diy system than a store bought one. Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions!!
 

farmasensist

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i want to see someone try aquaponics. ive heard it works well for veg but you ddont get the right nutes for flowering maybe you could figure it out.
 

neosapien

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Me too! Still raising Tilapia Neo?
No, we ate them all before last winter before they could spawn. :bigjoint:

If I lived in a place where I could go outdoors I would definitely give the aquaponics a try. My buddy gave it a go a few years back with mixed results using lettuce and basil, not really nute hungry plants.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Best grow I've ever seen used soilless - Sunshine Mix Advanced, a coco-based blend. It has all the advantages of hydro (fast, precise nutrient control, massive root growth and efficiency) and those of soil (can water yourself super low tech, drain-to-waste means no minding what's happening in your res after you mixed'em, and best of all: plants in individual, OK-sized pots can be shifted, tended, trained, quarantined etc.)
I liked the setup so much that for my last grow i went to ProMix. Of course, i have a listening disability so i got "regular" proMix, peat-based and not coco. Still nice but not that wonderful texture of the coco.
I got a pound and a half under a 600 that way from just four plants. The person running the coco mix is doing even better than that and still climbing!!
 

neosapien

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I have been looking into coco after Minne was telling me some things about it. So it sounds like the sunshine mix advanced route would kind of be a coco based hempy bucket like what God suggested? So in your experience CN, the pro-mix method has the hydro-type growth and whatnot? So far I'm liking the simplicity that route seems to offer. I already have a bazillion buckets. Ok, you guys won me over. I'll start researching coco and hempy buckets and see what I can't figure out. 1 1/2lb off a 600. Nice.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
What distinguishes it from the hempy buckets is complete drainage. The bucket res screams trouble to me: lockout, root rot, pest refuge.

Nutrients: I mixed my own. Other person uses Dyna Gro with sterling results (plus Botanicare Cal-Mag and a silica supplement) and has used a 2-1 blend of Dyna Gro Bloom and GH Flora Grow for an ideal late-flower NPK ratio. Plants benyt over under the weight of their inflorescences; I'll tell yuh whut.

 

Sunbiz1

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Best grow I've ever seen used soilless - Sunshine Mix Advanced, a coco-based blend. It has all the advantages of hydro (fast, precise nutrient control, massive root growth and efficiency) and those of soil (can water yourself super low tech, drain-to-waste means no minding what's happening in your res after you mixed'em, and best of all: plants in individual, OK-sized pots can be shifted, tended, trained, quarantined etc.)
I liked the setup so much that for my last grow i went to ProMix. Of course, i have a listening disability so i got "regular" proMix, peat-based and not coco. Still nice but not that wonderful texture of the coco.
I got a pound and a half under a 600 that way from just four plants. The person running the coco mix is doing even better than that and still climbing!!
Hmm, my grow shop carries Sunshine blend. That would resolve my peat/bug issue and increase yield.

Thanks!.:bigjoint:
 

Sunbiz1

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Be careful to spec the Advanced (coco) and not the Regular (peat). That was my listening disability at work ...
I could not miss the yellow bag, and the price tag of $50.

Yikes, I use like 50 gallons of medium every 2 months...this could get expensive.
 

Granny weed

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I consider myself a child of science and as such I like to experiment. When I first started this addicting hobby, I didn't know much and jumped in with both feet after a friend of a friend died and his wife wanted all the equipment out of the house. My first grow was from seed in rockwool. Literally just rockwool lol. I used the slabs and when the roots started poking out the bottom I just put another slab under and the whole monstrosity just sat on a cake pan. It looked like the leaning tower of weeda. I fed them by hand everyday. It was ghetto as fuck but also wildly successful. Since then I've tried soil in buckets, dwc in buckets and an aero table that I was gifted. After having multiple successful harvests using those growing methods I am wanting to try and conquer a different method. So, what do you guys think? What have you been running? Ebb/Flow, NFT? I'm also interested in variations of techniques that I've already tried. I'm more interested in a diy system than a store bought one. Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions!!
You could try for another baby Neo! a brother or sister for that beautiful little girl of yours. Just a thought. :lol:
 

neosapien

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Be careful to spec the Advanced (coco) and not the Regular (peat). That was my listening disability at work ...
I could not miss the yellow bag, and the price tag of $50.


Yikes, I use like 50 gallons of medium every 2 months...this could get expensive.
There appears to be a couple similar products from that manufacture.
Sunshine® Advanced Mix #4

vs
Sunshine® Advanced Ultra Coir

Which product is the one your friend had the experience with CN?

You could try for another baby Neo! a brother or sister for that beautiful little girl of yours. Just a thought. :lol:
Lol, I wouldn't mind getting her a brother at some point. No rushing at this point, the wife's culture dictates a waiting period of 2 years after a c section to let the body heal. I'm cool with that. In the mean time I'll be doing more practising and less experimenting. :bigjoint:
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I could not miss the yellow bag, and the price tag of $50.

Yikes, I use like 50 gallons of medium every 2 months...this could get expensive.
You can reuse the coco, if you don't mind pounding it away from dry root balls and then washing it with strong soap (to kill any pests) ...
 

Unclebaldrick

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If you are short on money, try rice. Started with arborio but the drainage was bad. Settled on a 70/30 basmati-long grained wild.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Best grow I've ever seen used soilless - Sunshine Mix Advanced, a coco-based blend. It has all the advantages of hydro (fast, precise nutrient control, massive root growth and efficiency) and those of soil (can water yourself super low tech, drain-to-waste means no minding what's happening in your res after you mixed'em, and best of all: plants in individual, OK-sized pots can be shifted, tended, trained, quarantined etc.)
I liked the setup so much that for my last grow i went to ProMix. Of course, i have a listening disability so i got "regular" proMix, peat-based and not coco. Still nice but not that wonderful texture of the coco.
I got a pound and a half under a 600 that way from just four plants. The person running the coco mix is doing even better than that and still climbing!!
Going to try this side by side and see what happens. Any advice on treating it different? I adulterate my Sunshine (#1 & #4 mixed) regular with lots of good things. Do the same w The coco?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Going to try this side by side and see what happens. Any advice on treating it different? I adulterate my Sunshine (#1 & #4 mixed) regular with lots of good things. Do the same w The coco?
I need data on "lots of things" so that i might have an opinion about the "good" part.
 
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