ccodiane
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Come back you coward! Where did you go? Come back! Fight! Is that you? Anybody seen the cocksucker.....he was just here.....JOHNNY!
Aid to Israel rape of American taxpayer
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Johnnyorganic
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You're gonna need to do a little better than idiotic homo insults if you wish to deal with me.
You must the the most stupid Houseboy, EVER!
I said 'Wash the SUV'.
You said, 'Wax, too?'
I said, 'Nah, fuck it.'
I was not speaking LITERALLY.
Maybe you'd better work on that coffee thing before you move on to more complicated tasks.
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ccodiane
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and then he says..................
Maybe you'd better work on that hypocrite thing before you move on to more complicated tasks.You must the the most stupid Houseboy, EVER!
I said 'Wash the SUV'.
You said, 'Wax, too?'
I said, 'Nah, fuck it.'
I was not speaking LITERALLY.
trishmybiscuits
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Aid to Israel constitutes the rape of the American taxpayer!
Johnnyorganic
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That's probably the wittiest retort I've ever seen from you.
'I'm rubber you're glue' is not very original, but you need all the help you can get.
In light of your limited capacity, I guess you deserve a pass on that one: NICE ONE! THAT HURT ME DEEPLY!
Satisfied? LOL!
Just when I think you have reached the upper limits of stupidity, you up the ante in a specatacular fashion. Bravo!
Please consider my statement, I said "You're gonna need to do a little better than idiotic homo insults if you wish to deal with me." Meaning that your stupid little insults have no effect on me and you better do your homework. You should get another houseboy to read my posts to you, reading comprehension does not seem to be your strong suit. Illiterate Houseboy.
Hypocrite? LOL! As you well know from a lifetime of experience, starting from a tender age, not all transvestities are homosexuals. The photo of you and the SUV is just that: Houseboy ccodiane fucking a vehicle, NOT ANOTHER MAN! Silly Houseboy.
Regardless, I reserve the right to fight fire with fire whenever I choose. It's my call, not yours. Pretentious Houseboy.
Keep trying, Houseboy. To be truly worthy of me as an adversary, you must resort to tactical nukes, or another WMD. Until then, you're just another houseboy, and a particularly nasty one at that. In other words, you are not WORTHY. I've had my fun, but in the future, I will refer to my original statement which you will continue to see as response to your psycotic dribble until you decide to escalate, assuming you can figure it out. Doubtful.
Meanwhile...back to the stable, Houseboy.
WHERE'S MY COFFEE!
We TaRdED
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Does anyone want to talk about how Israel is not only leaching the US tax payers dollars, but could potentially induce the USA into the next WORLD WAR- WW3!
Does anyone else realize that Iran is NOT a global threat, but rather its the fear mongering media- owned by Zionist Jews, that is leading the people down another dead end road. Does anyone else realize how much the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq?
Does anyone else realize that Dick Cheney was the "former" CEO of Haliburton? Can you say "conflicting interests"?
Are the American people-
apathetic
in denial
brainwashed
stupid
ignorant
innately serfs
or WHAT?
Whats wrong with America? What happened? Our dollar used to be worth a dollar, now its basically worth half the value as it did before the Bush administration. Does anyone else know that gasoline is an obsolete fuel, but its because the oil companies own part of the world and bought out certain politicians(from oil company lobbyists) to allow this monopoly to continue.
What military does Iran have? Do they even have an air force? What makes Americans think Iran is a threat? Iran isn't trying to attack anyone because they don't have enough power AND they KNOW that the USA would blow them to pieces if they(Iran) started attacking Israel. Iran is only trying to defend its country from Israel because Israel is threatening Iran. Its a religious war because Israel doesn't want Muslims encroaching on their "sacred land"(don't let the politics and TV fool you).
p
YouTube - Is Iran Ready To Take Over Europe? Heres something to watch..
Is my information and logic all wrong? Can anyone else see through the shower of propaganda? Are most Americans lost to the false reality that the TV propagates to the people? Shouldn't there be a law that prohibits the media and gov't from brainwashing its people?
The REVOLUTION has begun!
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
~PEACE~
Does anyone else realize that Iran is NOT a global threat, but rather its the fear mongering media- owned by Zionist Jews, that is leading the people down another dead end road. Does anyone else realize how much the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq?
Does anyone else realize that Dick Cheney was the "former" CEO of Haliburton? Can you say "conflicting interests"?
Are the American people-
apathetic
in denial
brainwashed
stupid
ignorant
innately serfs
or WHAT?
Whats wrong with America? What happened? Our dollar used to be worth a dollar, now its basically worth half the value as it did before the Bush administration. Does anyone else know that gasoline is an obsolete fuel, but its because the oil companies own part of the world and bought out certain politicians(from oil company lobbyists) to allow this monopoly to continue.
What military does Iran have? Do they even have an air force? What makes Americans think Iran is a threat? Iran isn't trying to attack anyone because they don't have enough power AND they KNOW that the USA would blow them to pieces if they(Iran) started attacking Israel. Iran is only trying to defend its country from Israel because Israel is threatening Iran. Its a religious war because Israel doesn't want Muslims encroaching on their "sacred land"(don't let the politics and TV fool you).
p
YouTube - Is Iran Ready To Take Over Europe? Heres something to watch..
Is my information and logic all wrong? Can anyone else see through the shower of propaganda? Are most Americans lost to the false reality that the TV propagates to the people? Shouldn't there be a law that prohibits the media and gov't from brainwashing its people?
The REVOLUTION has begun!
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
~PEACE~
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trishmybiscuits
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Most Americans are either lost to the false reality or they're just too damn lackadaisical to give a shit.
Johnnyorganic
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What did We Tar do before the invention of You Tube?
trishmybiscuits
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What does "Americans before the invention of the television" have to do with this discussion? I'm afraid I don't understand the "scapegoats" comment either.
Seamaiden
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A LOT of people blame the whole mess on media, often extrapolated to television. A lot of people seem to think that terrorism and what's happening in Israel are solely upon U.S. shoulders. Completely, totally, and entirely incorrect on all counts those people are. They are finding scapegoats where none exist. These same people often only get their own information in video or television format, nothing that can be really verified, nothing that is subject to scrutiny or the approval of a whole group of peers (such as how scientific papers are "peer reviewed"), and a lot of people nowadays only get their information from television or computer sources.
Make more sense now?
Make more sense now?
mjetta
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Not quite sure i understand that statement, can you restate that?
Seamaiden
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Um.. crap. I just took my first bonger of the morning.. 
Yeah, I can restate it. Let me formulate the thought in a different way...
Ok, thread topic, aid to Israel & effect on American taxpayer, right? Where does that lead the discussion? Quite naturally, to the sources and/or origins of the entire "Israel problem" (that including terrorism, 9/11, etcetera).
With me so far?
Where do people draw their conclusions from?
From the information they acquire.
Where do they (tend) to acquire information?
In large part, in the U.S. (and probably Canada and the U.K. and really any industrialized nation I'm betting) via television.
Still along for the ride?
That means that (this form of) media has a good deal of control of information, because they decide what gets put out and what doesn't. It happens in all forms, but we'll stick with tv because we have to face the fact that fewer and fewer people read newspapers, books, and magazines (i.e. more verifiable sources, cited sources).
(Alert: French toast lesson inserted here... lose train of thought, regain train of thought... OK, check)
Ok, so we have a huge group of people who, despite having access to huge amounts of information, choose to select only certain sources for their information. This is somewhat necessary, but also prejudiced by the person making the selection. For our purposes today, we will also understand that this average person is limited in terms of a 'rounded' education regarding world history, and some of the finer points of modern history, as well as politics in their own country, as this seems to fit my general observations and those to whom I was referring in the original remark.
If you're still with me, you'll see where I'm headed by now, which is the extrapolation that the U.S. and its television media tend to be scapegoated, as the cause (in an a priori manner at times) of the problem, that problem being that we American taxpayers send aid to Israel, which is a big problem, etcetera, when in fact it isn't the problem. There also tends to be, within this group, a tendency to shun any personal responsibility for our government's machinations and actions (again, a personal observation).
I'm saying that the accused are merely scapegoats, and when assessing the situation an individual should endeavor to assess it from a much more holistic view. In order to do that, one cannot only limit their information to television. One must read, history (books), newspapers, magazines and other publications. One must take in as many perspectives and accountings as can be found, but always remembering the history that has gone behind anything that you're trying to understand. It's trite to simply say that the media and our government are to blame, it's an attempt to simplify a complicated mess.
Have I muddied things up for you any better?
Yeah, I can restate it. Let me formulate the thought in a different way...Ok, thread topic, aid to Israel & effect on American taxpayer, right? Where does that lead the discussion? Quite naturally, to the sources and/or origins of the entire "Israel problem" (that including terrorism, 9/11, etcetera).
With me so far?
Where do people draw their conclusions from?
From the information they acquire.
Where do they (tend) to acquire information?
In large part, in the U.S. (and probably Canada and the U.K. and really any industrialized nation I'm betting) via television.
Still along for the ride?
That means that (this form of) media has a good deal of control of information, because they decide what gets put out and what doesn't. It happens in all forms, but we'll stick with tv because we have to face the fact that fewer and fewer people read newspapers, books, and magazines (i.e. more verifiable sources, cited sources).
(Alert: French toast lesson inserted here... lose train of thought, regain train of thought... OK, check)
Ok, so we have a huge group of people who, despite having access to huge amounts of information, choose to select only certain sources for their information. This is somewhat necessary, but also prejudiced by the person making the selection. For our purposes today, we will also understand that this average person is limited in terms of a 'rounded' education regarding world history, and some of the finer points of modern history, as well as politics in their own country, as this seems to fit my general observations and those to whom I was referring in the original remark.
If you're still with me, you'll see where I'm headed by now, which is the extrapolation that the U.S. and its television media tend to be scapegoated, as the cause (in an a priori manner at times) of the problem, that problem being that we American taxpayers send aid to Israel, which is a big problem, etcetera, when in fact it isn't the problem. There also tends to be, within this group, a tendency to shun any personal responsibility for our government's machinations and actions (again, a personal observation).
I'm saying that the accused are merely scapegoats, and when assessing the situation an individual should endeavor to assess it from a much more holistic view. In order to do that, one cannot only limit their information to television. One must read, history (books), newspapers, magazines and other publications. One must take in as many perspectives and accountings as can be found, but always remembering the history that has gone behind anything that you're trying to understand. It's trite to simply say that the media and our government are to blame, it's an attempt to simplify a complicated mess.
Have I muddied things up for you any better?
mjetta
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Yes thank you!!!Um.. crap. I just took my first bonger of the morning..
Ok, thread topic, aid to Israel & effect on American taxpayer, right? Where does that lead the discussion? Quite naturally, to the sources and/or origins of the entire "Israel problem" (that including terrorism, 9/11, etcetera).
With me so far?
Where do people draw their conclusions from?
From the information they acquire.
Where do they (tend) to acquire information?
In large part, in the U.S. (and probably Canada and the U.K. and really any industrialized nation I'm betting) via television.
Still along for the ride?
That means that (this form of) media has a good deal of control of information, because they decide what gets put out and what doesn't. It happens in all forms, but we'll stick with tv because we have to face the fact that fewer and fewer people read newspapers, books, and magazines (i.e. more verifiable sources, cited sources).
(Alert: French toast lesson inserted here... lose train of thought, regain train of thought... OK, check)
Ok, so we have a huge group of people who, despite having access to huge amounts of information, choose to select only certain sources for their information. This is somewhat necessary, but also prejudiced by the person making the selection. For our purposes today, we will also understand that this average person is limited in terms of a 'rounded' education regarding world history, and some of the finer points of modern history, as well as politics in their own country, as this seems to fit my general observations and those to whom I was referring in the original remark.
If you're still with me, you'll see where I'm headed by now, which is the extrapolation that the U.S. and its television media tend to be scapegoated, as the cause (in an a priori manner at times) of the problem, that problem being that we American taxpayers send aid to Israel, which is a big problem, etcetera, when in fact it isn't the problem. There also tends to be, within this group, a tendency to shun any personal responsibility for our government's machinations and actions (again, a personal observation).
I'm saying that the accused are merely scapegoats, and when assessing the situation an individual should endeavor to assess it from a much more holistic view. In order to do that, one cannot only limit their information to television. One must read, history (books), newspapers, magazines and other publications. One must take in as many perspectives and accountings as can be found, but always remembering the history that has gone behind anything that you're trying to understand. It's trite to simply say that the media and our government are to blame, it's an attempt to simplify a complicated mess.
Have I muddied things up for you any better?
My major in college required alot of studying of the media. and i think people forget quickly that they are private companies with profit as their main goal.
IT is not illegal for a news organization to report incorrect facts. there are laws on gathering news, but much less on its reporting. People put waaay to much weight on the media.
Have you ever watched any foreign media? ANY??? Its insane how much you dont see in the American media. Read the Jeruselum Post. Its the biggest newspaper in Israel. Holy shit, they are more critical articles of Israeli policy in that paper alone than in all of American media. why? because they are not bound by the anit-semitic label that may be placed on anyone who critizes Israel in any way.
And contrary to what many people think, Israelis are not entirely pro American as you may imagine
I like The Economist as well, I learn neat stuff in there.
Johnnyorganic
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Both excellent points. You get +rep.
mjetta
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WoW thanks! I feel intelligentBoth excellent points. You get +rep.
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