MMPR Pricing and Varieties

martyg

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None of you lp's wanna be growers no shit if you did. You wouldn't be saying you'll be selling organically grown Meds in an aeroponics set up. What a joke lmfao good one leaffan
 

Kootenaygirl

Active Member
I get that you guys don't like the MMPR. I don't get why. Is it because you think of us wannabes as traitors to the MMAR? Are we government growers? Price fixing, what do you think the black and grey markets have been doing? Greed? Your system was all greed. What? As far as price fixing check out HC, sending brochures to doctors? Only ones with product for sale! Your enemy is Health Canada, not LP's, give the new system a chance and you'll see.

As a patient, in the MMAR, working toward the transition to the MMPR, against the biggest opponent of marihuana (Health Canada), you should support this step toward legalization. Working over a wannabe anything is fun, but your material is really old, don't the other forums have any new material for you?
 

martyg

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I don't read other forums and why am I gonna buy it I've been producing my own Meds for four+ yrs for alot less money, that's my point. Now they expect me to pay 10x as much money for a strain that don't work. I can guarantee the lp's will not have my strains that I've been growing for four yrs now. Take my comments how you want I can see your the one getting upset not me.... Truth hurts eh
 

patg73

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Your preference is your preference. I grow in soil and I grow with hydroponics. To me the only difference is the taste, other than the fact hydroponics out performs soil or soil less mix any day of the week.

Something else I would like to add. If anyone says they will produce organically using any form of hydroponics is BS. Growing organically in hydro is like trying to grow in a sewer, it just doesn't mix. If you look up the definition of organic growing its defined as using unrefined mineral salts or manure. Any fertilizer that is unrefined will not have a known NPK ratio.
How is that BS?

All the compounds in dirt can be extracted and used hydroponically. Do you think miracle grow is truly organic? Lol
 

martyg

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How is that BS?

All the compounds in dirt can be extracted and used hydroponically. Do you think miracle grow is truly organic? Lol
Ya they can hydroponic nutes are synthetic. Organic nutes are usually not and are a lot thicker, and usually contain particles and who the hell uses miracle grow for mj are you kidding me,lmfao ya the people who know their stuff all no it's bs
 

MarijeJane

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Thats true...good point.

btw..kootenaygirl and marijeJane..our group is looking to start a consortium of smaller lps..smaller lps need to work together to make this successful and compete against the big boys. By working together we can sell each others products, pool resources and help with supply if one gets a bad crop. Since we have our own lab we can test other lps products for them at a much much cheaper rate. Why try to grow a bunch of different strains when you can grow one or two very well without all the issues of growing many.

We plan on growing charlotte's web. There won't be much demand for it at the beginning but imagine being able to offer it to your patients, make a profit without having to actually grow it or test it? If any of you lps are interested please in box me. We're hoping to gather a group of 10 solid lps to work with.
I completely agree that we need to cooperate and for a consortium! I am in contact with three other LP applicants and would love for us to pool our lists to form a group. I would love to message you but you don't have enough posts. Can you send me an email address? I also think that growing very high CBD strains such as Charlotte's Web is a great idea.
 

MarijeJane

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I get that you guys don't like the MMPR. I don't get why. Is it because you think of us wannabes as traitors to the MMAR? Are we government growers? Price fixing, what do you think the black and grey markets have been doing? Greed? Your system was all greed. What? As far as price fixing check out HC, sending brochures to doctors? Only ones with product for sale! Your enemy is Health Canada, not LP's, give the new system a chance and you'll see.

As a patient, in the MMAR, working toward the transition to the MMPR, against the biggest opponent of marihuana (Health Canada), you should support this step toward legalization. Working over a wannabe anything is fun, but your material is really old, don't the other forums have any new material for you?
Well said! The MMPR is coming, no matter what. I feel that anyone should be able to grow a few plants, just like tomatoes. I live on a farm and grow my own tomatoes, but I do also buy them at the local farmers market or the grocery store. I think that commercial tomato growers are needed so why not commercial cannabis growers? I am going to be an LP and will grow great organic product in soil.
 

MarijeJane

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How is that BS?

All the compounds in dirt can be extracted and used hydroponically. Do you think miracle grow is truly organic? Lol
If you read the requirements for organics in Canada, all products must not be aeroponic or hydroponic. Check eco-cert, pro-cert or OMRI.
 

WHATFG

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I get that you guys don't like the MMPR. I don't get why. Is it because you think of us wannabes as traitors to the MMAR? Are we government growers? Price fixing, what do you think the black and grey markets have been doing? Greed? Your system was all greed. What? As far as price fixing check out HC, sending brochures to doctors? Only ones with product for sale! Your enemy is Health Canada, not LP's, give the new system a chance and you'll see.

As a patient, in the MMAR, working toward the transition to the MMPR, against the biggest opponent of marihuana (Health Canada), you should support this step toward legalization. Working over a wannabe anything is fun, but your material is really old, don't the other forums have any new material for you?
I think it's because people have grown so used to doing things one way and they won't legally be able to do it soon. Then there's that price thing. People need to remember that, at least for me, this is not my first drug of choice. I arrived here after years of being on morphine and trying every damn painkiller under the sun. so I feel threatened that something that takes care of my pain reasonably well and has minimal side effects, is being taken away from me. It is still an herb regardless of how it's labelled. I can grow foxglove and make my own digitalis of Christ's sake, I don't get what the big deal is. Digitalis will kill me quicker than any marihuana strain I could grow, but it's ok to grow that!! Makes no sense.
 

patg73

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I hear where you are coming from and we can not advertise it as organic but our process uses true organic products to grow. We use a starve and feed method of growing and can not use soil to attain that style. At the end of the day, there's many ways to skin a cat. Lol

martyg..we'll not sure what to say to you accept I wish you the best and hope that you can get your meds one way or another. You may have sources for it but many do not. I understand that you think that most lps are in it for the money and too some degree that's true. It's a for profit business. Just like an underground grower BUT many (like ourselves) are looking to truly help people in the process. I understand that you think lps are trying to rip patients off but you're forgetting that the actual growing is only 30% of the business in terms of what it takes to actually get the meds to the patients. Btw big pharma is WAY worse then any lp will ever be.

Im not the actual grower in our group but I do know some people that swear by using Monsanto prepared dirt for growing. My point about miracle grow was just a joke. So take it easy.
 

martyg

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You guys are all the same. Maybe some day you will understand, have fun selling your g's lol. And harpers the middle man. I don't care wtf you guys think of me,have fun with your venture
 

martyg

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Btw every damn compassion club I've joined and bought from was shady product was junk. Some was ok if you wanna spend 40-50/ 1/8.its gonna cots me 96000$ per year for my Meds. Honestly do you think I'm gonna pay that even if I had the $ I wouldn't. Do you think I pay that much in my hydro bill for the year total...... No effin way!!!!!! So why am I gonna start
 

OGEvilgenius

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There are some good clubs out there. Some shady ones too. People need to earn a living. Making money doing this isn't wrong in any way shape or form. Do you expect people to not eat or have a place to live? When you devote your life full time to this you should be compensated decently for your work.
 

Kootenaygirl

Active Member
Because production growing will eventually be able to sell better quality, for less money then your hydro bill, it is simple.

Is Harper the middleman for viagra?

LP's are not compassion clubs, more like farmer's markets online. Most CC's do not grow their own.

MMPR was designed for the long term benefit of all consumers. Better access for 99%, better quality, less expensive, informative label, not sold to kids, does not support organized crime, pays taxes and removes irresponsible growers from neighbourhoods.

Doctors and now nurses don't like prescribing anything that hasn't had clinical trials and extensive "big pharma testing", who can blame them. Not the legal protection they are used to. Always bring a medical waiver for your doc when you go, absolving them from any liability. Once doctors and nurses learn what the MMPR changes mean they will prefer it to the MMAR, but still be hesitant. Eventually, because of the MMPR, marihuana will get through the testing that will ease doctors and nurses concerns. A DIN number will come shortly after that, which will make it coverable by your medical.

The MMPR is a painful first step to a well regulated industry that will allow for the legalization of marihuana for everybody's use. Seems to me that it has ticked all the boxes except how to make people like change. Conroy, at best, may win a short term victory to bridge the temporary gap, this I doubt, but very much hope for. This victory won't be to let us keep growing, it will be HC supplying you your medicine from old PPS stock, lol. I am not kidding.
 

patg73

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Patg73...I asked earlier in the thread if you had your lab up and running?
Oh I'm sorry. Forgot to reply to that.

No it is not. All the plans are in place but not buying anything until our application is approved by HC.
 

martyg

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I don't believe any of this bs your shoveling. Damn right your farmers I can tell by all the shit your telling patients. And ya everyone has to eat lol you wanna pay 12$ for a carrot or 8$ for beans,and then have to wait a few days for Something you can produce for next to nothing, sounds like reasonable access. once again the drs in my town do not support it. And with all the start up its if will be years before you'll be able to sell cheaper than a patients hydro bill.
 

OGEvilgenius

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I don't believe any of this bs your shoveling. Damn right your farmers I can tell by all the shit your telling patients. And ya everyone has to eat lol you wanna pay 12$ for a carrot or 8$ for beans,and then have to wait a few days for Something you can produce for next to nothing, sounds like reasonable access. once again the drs in my town do not support it. And with all the start up its if will be years before you'll be able to sell cheaper than a patients hydro bill.
I don't like the new program either. Some clubs are rip offs. Some are fine. There are plenty of clubs offering 5 dollar grams (and even less), which is pretty reasonable IMO. Discounts on bulk. It's pretty much impossible to pay over 150 an ounce these days and that's if you're not looking that hard.

Anyway, people need to earn a living doing this either way. I'm not sure who you are to say what the "right" price is. If you don't like something, don't support it with your dollars.
 

patg73

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I don't believe any of this bs your shoveling. Damn right your farmers I can tell by all the shit your telling patients. And ya everyone has to eat lol you wanna pay 12$ for a carrot or 8$ for beans,and then have to wait a few days for Something you can produce for next to nothing, sounds like reasonable access. once again the drs in my town do not support it. And with all the start up its if will be years before you'll be able to sell cheaper than a patients hydro bill.
There's doctors in our area who support it..not only that..our company is financially backed by 2 doctors and a lawyer. Imagine that.

Anyways, that's about it for me on this forum. Not much to benefit us and martg's posts just reminds me of an old saying. You just can't fix stupid..not even mj can cure that. Lol

Good luck everyone..even you martg.
 
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