2nd grow...1st journal

Hey guys. After doing a bunch of reading around, I thought it might be a good idea to do a grow journal for all to see and give me advice if you see me screwing up. I've been keeping a log anyway, particularly of my setup and all, so why not share.

Background:
I have grown once before successfully in soil using HPS light rig. Temp was a constant struggle as was exhaust. I wanted to try something different. This time I wanted to LED.

Day -20:
Got some seeds from Seed Supreme Seed Bank (Amnesia, Girl scout, and Afghan Kush). After 5 days of shot glass method and none popped, I went to paper towel method. Still nothing after another 6 days. Still wouldn't pop! My house is usually pretty cool so I put a heating pad near the bag and put it in the spare bathroom and blasted the heat for 2 days. still no tap root. I gave up. Ordered more seeds from Seed King (Afghan Kush, Wedding Cake, Skywalker Triangle, and Jack Herer...all feminized, none autoflower). Got a Rapid Rooter tray kit and these new seeds popped after ~3-4 days! Yay!

SETUP:
5x5x8 Secret Jardin tent
Vortex S-line 711cfm 8"exhaust fan (i know its way overkill...paranoid about mold).
-exhaust tied into dryer vent outside using a Y connector
smaller Active Air 4"inline fan for fresh air in
2x Spyder Farms 2000 LED lights
HydroFarms PAR meter
clip 4" fan x 2. One fan per 2 plants
Humidifier x2 (vicks and cheapo from Amazon)

Day 0:
Instead of transplanting in solo cups then bigger pot, I went straight to medium pot (6" wide) with Foxfarms Oceanforest & 25% perlite. Water to wet with distilled water and begin 18/6 cycle.

Day 4:
The babies look healthy. The pics below in order are: Afghan Kush, Jack Herer (is this a new strain??), Skywalker Triangle, and Wedding Cake). Started watering with tap water pH adjusted to 5.9 by adding lemon juice concentrate, around every 2-3 days. My tap water is ~9.8-10.5. Obviously, still too early to add nutes. Lights were ~60 inches from plants with a PPFD of ~606-650. That seemed a bit too high for such youngings but they began stretching (~2" tall). I decided I'd rather risk giving it too much light than risk it stretching too much and not being stable, so I dropped light height to ~40 inches above. I read after the fact on here that the HF PAR meter is literally the worst and super inaccurate. Great. I'm a scientist by training (chemist) so not knowing the measurements bugged me but a common piece of advice I've heard alot is listen to your plants. They will tell you what they like and don't like. They seemed to respond positively to dropping the height. Temp was a nice 72F but humidity was too low (40-50%). I realize its because of my jet engine exhaust fan.
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Day 6:
Temp 73.6, Humidity still too low ,so got a cheap humidifier from Walmart. Continue watering and with pH adjusted H2O

Day 19:
Start watering with Fox Farms trio (Tiger Bloom and Grow big) at 1/4 strength solution, still pH balanced at 5.9 at rt. add to soil every other watering. Temp at 74 and humidity at 60%. I did notice a orange spot on the Jack Herer plant only on two leaves. Wierd...some speculated I spilled something on it? It shown below with the Skywalker (L), Afkghan Kush (R). Last pic is JH. Brought lights down to 20". Apply nutes.

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Day 23:
Transplant into last big (20" pot from HD). Fresh FF OF soil with 25% perlite. Water with pH water. Got a 2nd humidifier and now its ~68-74%.

Day 30:
Started getting a dark green leaves on the bottom set of Skywalker and Wedding cake along with a bit of canoeing. The AK started a bit of white tips on top set. Seems like the consensus on canoeing is too much heat or not enough humidity. Can't be either because I was 72F/70% and even used an IR thermometer I got at Home Depot. I raised the lights to 24" above plants just in case. The dark leaves and white tips indicating N excess makes sense since I applied nutes only a couple days before transplanting in new soil...with nutes. Stupid. Didn't realize until it was done. Still trying to run water. Looks: They are getting really bushy and only ~12" tall. See pics below: L-R =Skywalker Triangle, Afghan Kush, (upper R-lower R)=Jack Herer, Wedding cake. They all starting to smell great though. is 12" for these strains at this stage taller?
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Any unique or odd strain specific advice you guys can give..or general comments? Any observations I'm missing? This is where I am right now but do plan on continuing this journal.
 
Soooo, its been crazy lately and now I'm free to update.
Week 6 (Day 48):
Everything was looking good. All the strains were still growing solidly. As per the 2X rule of thumb for hybrids, I started 12/12 light cycle. Desided to try my hand at SCROG so set up the screen ~3 days after flip. At this point they are 18". 20200527_185335.jpg


3 weeks later (Week 3-Flower), I realized I f'd up. I have 4 different strains growing at different rates and different heights. As you see below, the Wedding Cake is getting huge, with her big 9 & 11 fan leaves. Yes I said 11!! Everything else is on target: T=69-74F, H=68% (with the humidifier), changed out one small clip fan with tower fan. Much better air flow. Been giving nutes every 3rd watering (FF Big Bloom & Tiger Bloom at 1/2 strength). I know its not frequent but I'm worried about nute burn.


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Week 6 Flower:
As you can see below, the canopy is all fucked up due to uneven growth rate. Welp...next time I am gonna make sure to do the same strain or get individual pot mesh. I did notice the top leaves starting to get some crispiness and browning. Is that heat stress or just the colas pulling nutrients? In case if it was too much heat, moved the lights from 24" to 36". The mesured temp at top of canopy using an IR gun was only max 78F. It doesnt make sense.


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Week 7-Flowering: As its nearing the (earliest) suggested end of flower window of each (most say 8-9 weeks), I started looking at trichomes so I know to stop the nutes. I'm having a hard time figuring out clear vs cloudy. I have shitty vision so there may even be some amber. I've been looking at so many examples of clear or cloudy but can't tell with mine. I've read that if you see 70% of pistols change color from white, your're ready to chop. IDK...I've got alot of non-white pistols but not sure about the trichomes.
Check them below:
this one is Afghan Kush:
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and this is Skywalker Triangle Kush:
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and this one is Jack Herer:
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Lastly this is Wedding Cake:
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That's what I got so far. I'd love any help figuring out those trichomes.
Cheers!
 
Out of order but noticed the pics for the first post didn't come thru... here they are for day 30 into veg:
L-R =Skywalker Triangle, Afghan Kush
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(upper R-lower R)=Jack Herer, Wedding cake.

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Skewbong

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Your recent pics...plants look very healthy. Keep up your great work. I get passionate about these plants too. I learned you need a jewelers loupe or USB microscope to be sure of your trichs. Go by trichs, and not pistols. Thats my opinion. TBH, you have a ton of info, and its a bit hard to focus. Ok, go! Just ask limited questions at one time. Good work friend!
 

F80M4

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I'd go higher with your pH, after I put in my nutes they stabilize at 6.4, I dont adjust it either and I have my (tap) water airated
 
Your recent pics...plants look very healthy. Keep up your great work. I get passionate about these plants too. I learned you need a jewelers loupe or USB microscope to be sure of your trichs. Go by trichs, and not pistols. Thats my opinion. TBH, you have a ton of info, and its a bit hard to focus. Ok, go! Just ask limited questions at one time. Good work friend!
Thanks for the advice. Just ordered a USB loupe. Yeah, I'm new to these boards (posting at least). I don't even do social media. I get the thing about lots of details.
 

F80M4

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I was taught that if hydro go for 5.8 and in soil or soil-less better to be at 6-6.6ish. I've never had nute burn or anything
 

Skewbong

Well-Known Member
Is that good or bad?

Thanks. After nutes my water usually drops alot to 5.4, so then I need to add more garden lime to get to 6.2. IS there that much difference in performace/health from 6.2 to 6.4? Serious question.
6.2-6.4 is not overly critical based on what I've experienced
I keep mine between 5.8 and 6.4. Lower number in veg, higher in flower. I haven't experienced it myself, but ive read not to fluctuate the ph too radically. Im a new grower to hydro but lots with dirt, but i still ph and ec my water, Always.
 
Also was just saying that 30 days to that point my plants are big af already
Ah. I see. Yeah, i think the descriptions I read on these strains is that they can be bushy. I could have stunted some early stretching by light distance? I had that weak ass HF PAR meter that was messing up my LED distance measurements.
 
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