2nd grow. C'99 and Super Lemon Haze(feminized)

kushhound187 said:

Lol and thier soil drying method works. i know cuase i use it. it does speed things up. kite you should watch the video buddy is refering to. It has nothing to do with inability to grow. hes being disingeneous and comparing his fed plant to a completly unfed soil plant. the vid is a soil vs hydro vid.

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well since they were mentioning npks and saying that they flushed, my assumption was that they did not feed in the beginning, but later on they started feeding. sorry my bad, also since i was watching at work and my colleagues were walking around so i had to keep on pausing video. i probably missed GH saying that they are not going to feed soil plant. also i do not quite get it, if in hydro plant needs food, they are feeding it, but when in soil plant needs food, they let it suffer... weird, unless they want to sell hydro equipment i cannot think of any other reason why they would not feed soil plant..

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well since they were mentioning npks and saying that they flushed my assumption was that they did not feed in the begining, but later on they were started feeding. sorry my bad, also since i was watching at work and my colleagues was walking around i had to keep on pausing video i probably missed them saying that they are not going to feed soil plant. also i do not quite get it, if in hydro plant needs food, they are feeding it, but when in soil plant needs food, they let it suffer... weird, unless they want to sell hydro equipment i cannot think of any other reason why they would not feed soil plant..

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Not that I know, or that they say in the video....but I'd guess the soil had time released nutrients in it? They can't have never fed the thing, or it wouldn't have made it all the way to the end.

Its all good. it appeared as if you were attacking gh based ona shitty accesment. comparing a fed to non fed would be shameless.anyway, the reason ithe slh is such a small skunky haze is its lemon skunk crossed with ssh. lemon skunk is a 50/50 indica sativa mix, but its pretty short. Lemon skunk is pretty good tho. it was contained in my mix pac.

slh is on my list of shit to get. they are good plants and a nice snoke.

i recomend trying a mix pack from gh. but watch thier vids. it will help you choodse witch strains growth style is right foer you.

sorry bad spelling. phone is a bitch to go back and edit on this site...


greenhouse mix packs.are brilliant tho. especially now that im cloning.

Dragon311 said:

Not that I know, or that they say in the video....but I'd guess the soil had time released nutrients in it? They can't have never fed the thing, or it wouldn't have made it all the way to the end.

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They say organic with no feed. decent soil will take a plant all the way thru, but its the reason they got only 30g.

im a organic grower but i yeild high cause myco, co2, bat shit and b vitamin. without that shit i yeild 33% of what i do now. i would have yields simalar to that plant.

ive watched all the videos. they do a few soil vs hydros. wont swy me tho. ilike the taste of my organics

ha, got most of her down. even if I don't believe that those other buds will build up a lot, cause pistils are mostly brown alr, anyway, I got already more than I expected and it will not hurt me to experiment a bit for better understanding

SLH has a really amazing stem... it could support twice or 3 times bigger colas than I yielded... and the smell is also very nice.. Now after trimming my fingers smells somewhere in between orange and lemon... was nice knowing her, in few weeks will write smoke report here are some pics. sorry poor light in the room, anyway, quality of pics is not that important here.
had only 0.33 liter beer can for comparison. 4th pic of what I left for a week or so. 5th trimmed leaves:


glhf

The slh should honestly be vegged for a month or two, and get a serious yield boosting food, or it will yeild like shit. like many short sativas, thier yields are terrible unless grown taller.

slh is dope shit tho. people can keep on whining about ghsc but their gear speaks for itself. plus they have tonnes of variety, and quality shit. thier skunks are awesome. im looking forward to trying kings kush. a grape kush. lol the only original strains that belong to them ar white widow, slh, and i dont think any others.

they got some serious genetics. i loved the superbud. a skunk x big bud. good shit. i have enjoyed every strains of thier own

kushhound187 said:

lol you arent mentioning that plant you are talking about (the slh that yielded 30gs) was not fed anything. it was grown in soil with just water. you are being kinda silly saying their plants have little foliage. you are basing your oppinion off of one strains vids (and you are using the weak one as your basis). Of corse the reason your slh is so much better is you are feeding. lol tho, comparing yours to a non fed plant, thats weak.

and kite, i agree they are about money, but have you tried a pack of ghs yet? i just bought a indica mix pack. i have never had a gh pack no germ. ive never had poor plants from ghs. they dont sell 100x the seeds eveeyone else does just becuase thier marketing. their gear is good and theres tonnes of people using thier stuff who have the same experience as me. Ive grown greenhouse strains 7/10 years ive grown.

lol im still planning on trying out barneys, but im not sure what to try. see i think you are totally reliable kite, but ive seen a tangerine dream plant in person. and i know theres nothing greenhouse as bad as that. i could run a comparison against any gh and tangerine dream... its not even a contest. just remember not to judge gh on arjans ass like attitude. i know he comes across like a asshole, but its all just a marketing ploy.

i support gh seeds. Ive tried many other seedbanks, but ive had great time with them.

to be honest, anyone who claims a no germ either bought old stock off a reseller or dont know what they are doing. ive never had any gh seeds no germ and ive never had shitty plants from gh. they may be profit driven, but that dosent mean they dont care. im a profit grower, i grow eco friendly and organic. the only part of my grows that arent nature friendly is my hids. but that cant be helped. i dont pollute. or any wierd shit. some of us choose to do this as a passion, and are lucky to be able to earn a living

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Please do not take this personally as it is nothing to do with you nor your viewpoints, but here are mine.

FUCK ARJAN! I wouldn't care if he had the best of the best, which IMO he is far from it, but regardless, if you are such a lowlife pos I will not give you 1 penny of support EVER for that in and of itself. I despise arrogance and greed and will never intentionally support such an individual. Same reason I will never entertain TGA either. Arjan is the King of Bullshit not cannabis and Subfool is right on his heels.

For IMO their inherent flaws as beings will also be inferred into their product.

Its all good. i respect your opinion. i wont buy from sub either.

i tried greenhouse 7 years ago. they were the first pro shit i bought. my first 3 years i got seds off friends, or anyone i met who knew a grower. this was long before all thier really hyped marketing. and i was never exposed to the marketing until 2011. thats when i first saw the videos and the pamphlets. i found them a much better way to pick strains instead of by names. ive always had excellent results and they are well priced for quality products. i enjoy thier end product always.


and mandalas site sells several varietys of greenhouse for cheap. 17.50 euros for the super, ams, exodus cheese, and super lemon haze is 35€. slh would be awesome bread to satori. anyway, im not pitching greenhouse. im happy with the products. im looking at world of seeds brazil and ketama. im excited for the ketama moroccan.

Anyway peace. respect kite. Ive recomended several newbies check out your posts. always good info

whoa SLH surprised me a bit. That two part harvesting does work after 24 hours I noticed new pistils alr.. nice.. Even small buds which looked already like they should be harvested because of all pistils being brown. now have majority of them white again. Cool. I wonder how long will it take for them to pack up. thinking of giving them about a week, if necessary, two, and then do a final chop.

Already harvested part of SLH dries very slowly comparing to C99. Probably because that cola is quite fat and dense.

Yesterday I toked some of harvested C99 for the first time. Oh GLORIOUS... I love this strain.. Trippy uplifting energetic and positive. Definitely more potent than on previous grow Because of boveda humidipak it keeps some humid which makes buds feel more like a peace of cloth. not wet, but not crusty dry either. The taste and the smell is way more colorful than without it. Also it burns differently. I really love this product. Money well invested Thanks Kite for letting us know it exists

Wait til she cures a while!! So glad for you

hmm, sitting at work reading RIU - all those people preharvest flushing and cutting the feeding on last 7-14 days. People who could bet their fortune that flushing makes it cleaner, tastier and healthier than without.
Well ok, everybody believe in something, there's no ONE truth in the world. But that made me compare my last two harvests.

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My first C99 grow:
10 days to harvest I cut the feeding and started flushing at some point. All the leaves went yellow, most of them dropped. I was so happy, cause I thought that's how it's supposed to be.
After I harvested, dried the buds and started smoking, me and my wife after every toke were making sour faces because of the... well how to describe it better - when you do not cut road weed before winter and then if gets covered with snow, then in the spring when the snow melts, there is a very specific smell, so that weed tasted just like that.
I was afraid that it had mold or I did something wrong, but there were no signs of it and after 2 weeks that taste started to go away and after a month mj tasted like mj. I googled that chlorophyll needs to evaporate.

Now my 2nd c99 grow:
I did not do any flushing, I did not cut the feeding. On a harvest day I cut all those leaves all green (what left from them lol) then dried for a week and dropped into a jar with boveda humidipak for another week.
The taste was very colorful and resin sweet from the beginning.
And I did not even bother to burp the jar, opened maybe two times just to double check whether there are no mold or moisture collecting somewhere.
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now I harvested only two plants and both were of the same strain so it's way too little to start making assumptions but I kind of have a feeling that it all depends on the way you cure them...

And also by making fan leaves yellow you are not necessarily making buds cleaner. Cause that energy and elements gets transported from fan leaves to where they are needed most - buds. So if that's the case, if all the Ns and Ps are moved from fan leaves to buds anyway so then I am wondering does the flushing do anything else but stress the plant?

I guess if that would be some pests spray I was applying to get rid of i.e. mites, maybe I would be afraid of and would want to wash it before smoking, but roots do not uptake hamburgers, they pick elements they need from whatever you throw at them..

it's just the way I see it now, I hope in few years of studying and learning I will know, not ass'u'me )

flushing is for toilets not plants...is detrimental and ridiculous...no benefit and purely a knee jerk reaction the Dutch perpetuated to sort of make amends for over fertilizing the plants...poppycock bs

Kite High said:

flushing is for toilets not plants...is detrimental and ridiculous...no benefit and purely a knee jerk reaction the Dutch perpetuated to sort of make amends for over fertilizing the plants...poppycock bs

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yes Kite, I totally agree with you and saw for myself the difference and I am confident that i am going to see it even better in a future(cause with time comes experience and understanding). It's so nice that you run into my threads, (prob because of c99 tag lol) cause you turned my understanding upside down.. no wait, it was upside down, you turned it side up up, or downside down. w/e lol.

if not for you, I probably would be following those: flushing, trimming fan leaves, going crazy about ph, feeding bloom food and many more false sheeee that float in the forum. When you are new, you are relying on majority, cause that's what common sense tells you, majority thinks so, so it must be right. bs.. In this way, everybody is FORCED here to learn growing THE hard way.

well enough about bragging about the cruel world, getting back to growing.

SLH looks like it's almost ready, all those skinny fluffy little buds packed into little rounded dense buds. Have to go to Paris tonight, so will let her do her final weight gain till sunday evening. Also today harvested SLH finally feels dry and ready to be cured.

I love Paris...kiss her for me

yeah, kissed her a sec ago, also packed alr her dried buds into curing box.
btw, got 24 grams from SLH and still 4-6g will come from the lower part.. 36g of C99 + ~30g SLH with 150W HPS and 2x25w cfl. last grow with 150W of cfls I had ~40g.
so I will have what to smoke for another 4-5 months sweet.

I'd say in total is improvement. And with all that mess I had through the grow... that just makes me feel way more happy that there is so much space to improve.

Happy smokes everybody, going to pack my stuff for sum "Oui Paris"

be safe but have a blast

what a blast... wine, cheese grapes and good weather around Louvre and cathedral. Lots of wine... this morning I accidentally woke up on time... somehow alarm didn't go on and we were close to missing the bus. so the trip was quite nice I would say.

Today I harvested what's left from my SLH. I was impressed how all those nearly non existing bud sites became filled with flowers in additional 2 weeks. The trichs, are half cloudy half clear. So here are some pics of how SLH looked before chop. Also without fan leaves.


now after cutting, I decided to try out scissor hash of SLH. Now that is heavy... hmm... the effect is hmm, a very racy feeling with heavy head... hmm, maybe I toked too much haha cause i'm high as phuck.. will have to do another report sometime next week on a cured SLH.

final stats. so today i weighted 2nd harvest of SLH. 8.2g. so totals: 32g of SLH and 36 of C99. nothing unexpected, i know. but with that i can finally close this journal and say thank u for all who followed and helped me with all those solutions to my noobish problems, especially you Kite, if not for u, i would not have done it even close to 70g of total harvest! see you on my current grow!
prob will have to create my continuous journal, so i would not need to create new thread each time. happy tokes everyone!

I enjoyed reading through this thanks

Crazy I just started my first grow with SLH and C99 Same seedhouses and everything. GL and i'll be sure to check in from time to time.