911 conspiracy theory

After arguing with a few people in another thread I thought I needed to make a new thread about this. I have been reading a lot about the entire situation. I have been reading web sites on both sides of the camp. I don't want to just reaffirm the opinion I have, I wanted to get opinions from both sides and investigate the facts for myself. Especially since I believed the whole thing was put to rest years and years ago. After doing all this I have come to this conclusion: anyone that believes 911 was an inside job is a full blown retard. It is not a mistake in calculations, or an error in judgement. You have systematically denied every piece of evidence that clearly points to what actually happened. You have ignored relevant evidence, and instead cherry picked what you think is evidence to support your outlandish claim. Every single point of evidence from the truthers that I checked into, without exception, was either a flat out lie, a misperception of the physical evidence caused by a misunderstanding (or total lack of understanding) of the processes/forces/chemistry involved, or was not logical.

There are people that believe the media was complicit in the plan. That they were fed a news script to read. That cnn reported that wtc 7 fell a full hour before it actually fell. This absolutely blows my mind. The notion that the reporters were in on and were fed scripts is preposterous. I can't even fathom the jump in logic for this particular case. The premise doesn't even make sense. Why would you feed cnn a script about what was happening? Couldn't you just blow the tower up and cnn would naturally report it when it actually fell? I don't know how to debunk this one because it doesn't even make sense.

It wasn't an inside job and neither any terrorists, someone was playing a Celine Dion record across the street Building collapse & some plane auto-pilot whent completely nuts.

Right go on youtube type in tower 7 bbc now what you see is a reporter for bbc news telling every one that is watching that tower 7 has collapsed when now this is a live brodcast
tower 7 is clearly seen in the background?

If thats not the American government telling them to air there shite what is ?

I don't think they were filming where they were or is it the bbc trying to tell us that they have been forced to tell us that tower 7 had collapsed and trying to show us that it was all planed?

I am only asking if you whatch your thoughts on that not the twin towers?

[youtube]C7SwOT29gbc[/youtube] posted it for you

Thanx dude.

OK forget Celine Dion. Put it simply there are thing peoples really don't want to believe even when millions saw it on T.V. so they simply don't. Some don't want to believe in any terrorist intervention cause it doesn't fit in their mind that a group of camel jokey from third world nation can successfully manage an attack against America. Some don't want to belive that the most powerfull man in the world can be killed by a lunatic with a cheap Italian gun. Some believe more in Hollywood than NASA so they think that the moon landing was a Stanley Kubrick film. Conspiracy theory you will never find arguments that will convince peoples who really prefer them over the truth.

This is 11 years in the past i mean i won't even argue it anymore because no matter what you show them they will pretend they don't see it. If shit hits the fan and the government turns on the people completely then some people are really going to eat their words. I believe that is was an inside job. I don't say it's 100% sure but i feel its pretty close to that. After the laws on cannabis how could you possibly trust anything they say? The cure for almost all problems illegal, while they sell you poison pharmaceuticals/ alcohol/ cigs. People who are so sure of things are the ones who are usually wrong.

I've seen the video. I believe it happened and that the video exists. My big problem with it is that there is a much much simpler explanation that makes sense. Maybe there was a communication error somewhere? They knew wtc 7 was coming down, it was just a matter of when.

Even if you assume every other aspect of the 911 conspiracy theory is true it still doesn't make sense to say that the reporters got a script before hand. Not even by the ass backwards logic of a truther can you make any kind of rationale for telling reporters before hand. The tower falling is one of those details that need not be fed to reporters. It will be self evident.

By the way some of you idiots need to be informed of the definition of a conspiracy. In criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to break the law at some time in the future. There you go confirmed conspiracy #1 is cannabis. You cannot argue that. It's 2012 the proof is all over everywhere.

RC7 said:

This is 11 years in the past i mean i won't even argue it anymore because no matter what you show them they will pretend they don't see it. If shit hits the fan and the government turns on the people completely then some people are really going to eat their words. I believe that is was an inside job. I don't say it's 100% sure but i feel its pretty close to that. After the laws on cannabis how could you possibly trust anything they say? The cure for almost all problems illegal, while they sell you poison pharmaceuticals/ alcohol/ cigs. People who are so sure of things are the ones who are usually wrong.

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The official view of the us government is that gravity does in fact exist. It pulls objects towards either other with a force proportional to their masses and inversely proportional to the distance between them. By your logic gravity must not actually exist because the government is incapable of telling the truth in any aspect.

guy incognito said:

The official view of the us government is that gravity does in fact exist. It pulls objects towards either other with a force proportional to their masses and inversely proportional to the distance between them. By your logic gravity must not actually exist because the government is incapable of telling the truth in any aspect.

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Like i asked what about tower 7 ???????????

lol. Yeah, whatever you say.

RC7 said:

By the way some of you idiots need to be informed of the definition of a conspiracy. In criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to break the law at some time in the future. There you go confirmed conspiracy #1 is cannabis. You cannot argue that. It's 2012 the proof is all over everywhere.

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Call it a an Ostrich instead of a conspiracy if you want it doesn't mean the government did it

halfloaf said:

Like i asked what about tower 7 ???????????

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What about it? It got hit with debris, burned, and fell down. Reporters made a mistake in saying it fell down early. Are you saying that the largest conspiracy ever involving thousands of willful participants was orchestrated and pulled off with military precision (yet somehow they left leroy in charge of delivering the "news scripts" to CNN), is more plausible than someone at CNN having a communication error during a live broadcast?

guy incognito said:

The official view of the us government is that gravity does in fact exist. It pulls objects towards either other with a force proportional to their masses and inversely proportional to the distance between them. By your logic gravity must not actually exist because the government is incapable of telling the truth in any aspect.

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As for that what about Canary Warf in London the IRA bombed that didn't bring down the buildings??

And there was gravity there?

guy incognito said:

What about it? It got hit with debris, burned, and fell down. Reporters made a mistake in saying it fell down early. Are you saying that the largest conspiracy ever involving thousands of willful participants was orchestrated and pulled off with military precision (yet somehow they left leroy in charge of delivering the "news scripts" to CNN), is more plausible than someone at CNN having a communication error during a live broadcast?

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MUSHROOM keep them in the dark and feed them on shite.

RC7 said:

lol. Yeah, whatever you say.

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YOU are the one that brought it up.

RC7 said:

This is 11 years in the past i mean i won't even argue it anymore because no matter what you show them they will pretend they don't see it. If shit hits the fan and the government turns on the people completely then some people are really going to eat their words. I believe that is was an inside job. I don't say it's 100% sure but i feel its pretty close to that. After the laws on cannabis how could you possibly trust anything they say? The cure for almost all problems illegal, while they sell you poison pharmaceuticals/ alcohol/ cigs. People who are so sure of things are the ones who are usually wrong.

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You think it's an inside job, and the rationale you gave is that you cannot trust the government because of cannabis legislation. You did not explain how you arrived at selectively trusting what the government says.

What about the evidence? Evidence like cause and effect of a plane hitting the building, and it's eventual demise, all of which is perfectly consistent with exactly what we would expect in those parameters.

halfloaf said:

MUSHROOM keep them in the dark and feed them on shite.

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What dark? The evidence is documented out in the open for all to see. The only one in the dark is you, and it is completely by choice.

halfloaf said:

As for that what about Danary Warf in London the IRA bombed that didn't bring down the buildings??

And there was gravity there?

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Add a few thousand gallon of aviation fuel to that London explosion & it would have level the building to the ground