Christie vetos bill that would force trump to release tax returns

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TRENTON -- Gov. Chris Christie on Monday vetoed a controversial bill that would have forced future presidential candidates -- including President Donald Trump -- to release their tax returns to receive a spot on New Jersey's ballot.

The governor, a longtime Trump friend and fellow Republican, dismissed the Democratic-backed measure as "clearly unconstitutional" and a "transparent political stunt masquerading as a bill."

"Unwilling to cope with the results of last November's election, the Legislature introduced this unconstitutional bill as a form of therapy to deal with their disbelief at the 2016 election results, and to play politics to their base," Christie wrote in his veto message.

Christie actually used a conditional veto, in which governors suggest changes to bills that the state Legislature can then choose to make.

But Christie's condition would rewrite the bill rather than change it. He eliminated the part requiring presidential contenders to disclose tax returns and recommended expanding the state's Open Public Record Act by removing exemptions for records kept by the state Legislature.

"The hypocrisy and false outrage underlying this bill is stunning -- even by Trenton standards," Christie wrote. "Rather than focus on the multitude of important issues impacting New Jersey's residents, the Legislature wasted time on a bill that manufactures from whole cloth a qualification for the office of President not found in the United States Constitution in the hope of scoring cheap political points.

"Although I have strong doubts that the Legislature has any real interest in promoting greater transparency, I am recommending changes to the bill that would fit the old saying, 'Doctor, heal thyself,'" he added. "If transparency is what the legislature wants, let's get our own house in order first.

At least 21 states introduced similar bills after Trump won the 2016 presidential election. But New Jersey's legislature -- win which both houses are controlled by Democrats -- was the first to pass such a bill.

Though it's not required by law that presidential contenders make their tax returns public, Trump became the first major-party candidate in 40 years not to do so, saying he wouldn't until the Internal Revenue Service was finished with an audit. He still refuses to release them now that he's in office.

Last week, U.S. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said Trump doesn't plan to make the documents public and that Americans already have "plenty of information" about the president's finances.

State Assemblyman John McKeon (D-Essex), one of the sponsors of the Democratic measure, said Christie's veto was "sadly not surprising, nor is his grandstanding and childish rhetoric." He also mocked the governor for using the kind of language Trump often uses on Twitter.

"Gov. Christie is obsessed with protecting and showing allegiance to President Trump," McKeon added. "This bill wasn't about President Trump. 2016 is over. Donald Trump is the president. This bill was about going forward, yet all Gov. Christie can think about is his ally Donald Trump. Sad!"

The bill would ( S3048 / A4520 ) have required both presidential and vice presidential candidates to release five years of their personal income tax returns. That would include Trump, aformer Atlantic City casino tycoo n, should he run for re-election in 2020.

The state Senate passed the measure, 24-11, and the state Assembly approved it, 48-26. Both votes were mostly along party lines.

Critics say Trump's tax returns would show if he has any conflicts of interests related to his business ties.

"The people of the United States deserve to known where presidential candidates earn their money," McKeon said.

Opponents argued that the U.S. Constitution bars states from adding requirements for who can run for president.

Democratic leaders have suggested they might try to override Christie's veto on the measure or simply introduce the measure again after Christie leaves office in January and a new governor takes over. A Democrat is favored to win this year's race to succeed Christie.

More on legal attempts to force trump to release tax returns:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-york-release-donald-trump-tax-returns-215094
 
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/17/news/donald-trump-tax-returns/

MAY 20, 2014:


More than a year before he announced his presidential campaign, Trump told an Irish television station that he would "absolutely" release his tax returns if he entered the race.

"If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely," he said. "And I would love to do that."

FEBRUARY 25, 2015:

Trump told radio host Hugh Hewittthat he would "certainly show tax returns if it was necessary."

OCTOBER 4, 2015:

Trump said in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos that he was considering releasing his tax returns.

"I'm thinking about maybe when we find out the true story on Hillary's emails," he said of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

JANUARY 24, 2016:

Trump told NBC's Chuck Todd that he had "very big returns."

Asked if he would release them publicly, Trump said, "we're working on that now."

"I have very big returns, as you know, and I have everything all approved and very beautiful and we'll be working that over in the next period of time, Chuck," Trump said. "Absolutely."

FEBRUARY 11, 2016:

Trump appeared again on Hewitt's radio program and said of his returns, "we'll get them out at some point, probably."

FEBRUARY 24, 2016:

Trump told CNN's Anderson Cooperthat he has a "very complex system of taxes."

"We'll make a determination over the next couple of months," he said. "It's very complicated."

FEBRUARY 25, 2016:

Trump tweeted that he's already filed public financial disclosure forms that are "great." He said that tax returns "have 0 to do w/ someone's net worth."

The disclosure forms do give wide estimates of asset value. But tax returns would reveal much more. Even the top two pages of his 1040 and Schedule A, for example, would say how much taxable income he made, how much he paid in taxes, his charitable contributions and whether he paid tax to any foreign governments.

During a CNN-Telemundo debate later that day, Trump said he wanted to release his tax returns, but could not while he's under audit.

"I've had it for years. I get audited. And obviously if I'm being audited, I'm not going to release a return," he said. "As soon as the audit is done, I love it."

FEBRUARY 27, 2016:

Trump revisits the audit argument on Twitter.

"Tax experts throughout the media agree that no sane person would give their tax returns during an audit," he said. "After the audit, no problem!"

MAY 11, 2016:

Trump tells the Associated Press that his taxes are under "routine audit" and he will release them when the audit is done.

"I would release my tax returns when audit is complete, not after election!" he tweeted about the interview.

SEPTEMBER 27, 2016:

Trump says during the first presidential debate that his taxes will be released once an audit is finished.

"I don't mind releasing. I'm under a routine audit, and it will be released. As soon as the audit's finished, it will be released," he said.

OCTOBER 4, 2016:

Mike Pence says during a vice presidential debate with Democratic candidate Tim Kaine that Trump has not "broken his promise" about releasing tax returns.

"Look, Donald Trump has filed over 100 pages of financial disclosure, which is what the law requires," Pence said. He added that trump is "going to release his tax returns when the audit is over."

JANUARY 22, 2017:

White House senior adviser Kellyanne Conway said on ABC's "This Week"that "the White House response is that he's not going to release his tax returns."

She added: "We litigated this all through the election. People didn't care."

JANUARY 23, 2017:

Conway clarifies her comments with a tweet: "On taxes, answers (& repeated questions) are same from campaign: POTUS is under audit and will not release until that is completed."

APRIL 16, 2017:

A day after protestors called on Trump to release his tax returns, the president derided the demonstrators on Twitter.

"I did what was an almost an impossible thing to do for a Republican-easily won the Electoral College!" he tweeted. "Now Tax Returns are brought up again?"

APRIL 17, 2017:

Spicer, the White House press secretary, says Trump's tax returns are still under audit.

"It's the same thing that was discussed during the campaign trail, the president is under audit. It's a routine one that continues," he said.

Asked in a later exchange if we can assume Trump will never release his returns, Spicer said he would "get back to you on that."
 
Let's hope this is a new rule that will be for all upcoming presidential candidates. And if you don't want to release your taxes, you don't run.
Bad idea. It would be better if the result of not releasing your taxes would be that the voters would not elect you. Forcing it through legislation is not the way to go.
 
Bad idea. It would be better if the result of not releasing your taxes would be that the voters would not elect you. Forcing it through legislation is not the way to go.

Not sure on your logic. It would be better if voters gave a fuck if you were a 60 year old pussy grabbing baboon, or if you shot someone on 5th ave, cheated vendors, sucked off putin, operated a fraudulent school, compulsively lied etc. BUT they dont.

Forcing the issue would filter out straight up corrupt thieves and moles on the kremlin payroll.
 
Bad idea. It would be better if the result of not releasing your taxes would be that the voters would not elect you. Forcing it through legislation is not the way to go.
It would also have been nice if you were caught on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women, you wouldn't get elected. Or if you were openly racist, you wouldn't get elected. Those seem worse to me than evading taxes or lying about your wealth. Something has to finally change the trumpers minds.

Doesn't it?
 
Not sure on your logic. It would be better if voters gave a fuck if you were a 60 year old pussy grabbing baboon, or if you shot someone on 5th ave, cheated vendors, sucked off putin, operated a fraudulent school, compulsively lied etc. BUT they dont.

Forcing the issue would filter out straight up corrupt thieves and moles on the kremlin payroll.
We gets what we deserves. You can't pass a law preventing that - nor should you try to.

The pussy grabbing is a great example.

It would also have been nice if you were caught on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women, you wouldn't get elected. Or if you were openly racist, you wouldn't get elected. Those seem worse to me than evading taxes or lying about your wealth. Something has to finally change the trumpers minds.

Doesn't it?
Yup. It boggles my mind. But the number they did on Hillary was pretty masterful.
 
It's always been voluntary and everybody complied to try to demonstrate transparency.

I'm utterly shocked that Trump got away with it. It really demonstrates (among his supporters) that people will vote for anything if they're brainwashed enough.

Maybe it is time for legislation to insure that transparency. If 2016 is any indicator. There is the possibility of the courts considering it unconstitutional. I'll be watching the other states attempts.
 
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