Emitters getting clogged???

MidnightSun72

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What's a good way to clean these things out? Soak in CLR? Do they all come apart for cleaning? Are 1/gph less likely to clog than 1/2 gph?

Do you run any products like drip clean? Any cheap common household ingredient work? Someone help me out.
 

xtsho

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What's a good way to clean these things out? Soak in CLR? Do they all come apart for cleaning? Are 1/gph less likely to clog than 1/2 gph?

Do you run any products like drip clean? Any cheap common household ingredient work? Someone help me out.
Drip clean is phosphoric acid and potassium oxide. Pekacid is the same thing but much cheaper and in crystalline form. I got some when I started using Blumats because I heard they can clog. I never had that issue with clogging so I never used it. I suppose I can use it as pH down.

Drip clean has the same ratio but the PeKacid is much stronger because it hasn't been diluted with water and put in a bottle.

Drip Clean 0-0.18-0.6

PeKacid 0-60-20

"Features
This fully-soluble and highly acidic (pH=2.2) fertilizer is formulated for injection and fertigation applications. With “acid in the bag” PeKacid will clean lines and neutralize high bicarbonate content irrigation waters. It may be used for soil-less media as well as open-field horticultural fertigation applications. PeKacid is easier, safer and more effective than using the conventional application of phosphoric acid."


"Anti clogging action Enhances nutrient uptake Provides acidity to neutralize and dissolve bicarbonates, avoiding clogging of pipes and drippers."



 

xtsho

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Also you can soak things in white vinegar to remove the buildup. Vinegar works better than CLR. In fact I've never found CLR to do much of anything. Used almost a whole bottle of CLR on a clear shower door that had buildup on it. Didn't do anything. Took some white vinegar and all the buildup came off and left the shower door crystal clear.
 

MidnightSun72

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Drip clean is phosphoric acid and potassium oxide. Pekacid is the same thing but much cheaper and in crystalline form. I got some when I started using Blumats because I heard they can clog. I never had that issue with clogging so I never used it. I suppose I can use it as pH down.

Drip clean has the same ratio but the PeKacid is much stronger because it hasn't been diluted with water and put in a bottle.

Drip Clean 0-0.18-0.6

PeKacid 0-60-20

"Features
This fully-soluble and highly acidic (pH=2.2) fertilizer is formulated for injection and fertigation applications. With “acid in the bag” PeKacid will clean lines and neutralize high bicarbonate content irrigation waters. It may be used for soil-less media as well as open-field horticultural fertigation applications. PeKacid is easier, safer and more effective than using the conventional application of phosphoric acid."


"Anti clogging action Enhances nutrient uptake Provides acidity to neutralize and dissolve bicarbonates, avoiding clogging of pipes and drippers."



Can I use the pek acid while my plants are during cycle? Or better remove all the emitters and cycle through into a bucket?
 

xtsho

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Can I use the pek acid while my plants are during cycle? Or better remove all the emitters and cycle through into a bucket?
It's used to keep lines clean during the growing cycle. It's extremely strong so a little goes a long way.

You can use it as pH down. I have always used phosphoric acid but PeKacid is just crystalized phosphoric acid potassium oxide. Keep in mind that the pH is around 2.2 so it probably isn't something to use unless you have a good understanding of mixing nutrient solutions.
 

xtsho

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I also want to put out there that using PeKacid should be left to more advanced growers that have an understanding of what they're using and why. Have done enough research to know how to use it. And are familiar with what they're using in their nutrient solutions. If you're already using a pH down product then you would replace that with the PeKacid which will lower the pH.

It's probably best for most to just not use it as it will cause serious problems when used incorrectly or in the wrong amount. I don't want some new grower to see this post and run out to get some PeKacid and fry their plants.
 

MidnightSun72

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It's used to keep lines clean during the growing cycle. It's extremely strong so a little goes a long way.

You can use it as pH down. I have always used phosphoric acid but PeKacid is just crystalized phosphoric acid potassium oxide. Keep in mind that the pH is around 2.2 so it probably isn't something to use unless you have a good understanding of mixing nutrient solutions.
I use floraflex b1 and b2. Do I add before or after? I use 75% phosphoric acid as ph down right now.
 

xtsho

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I use floraflex b1 and b2. Do I add before or after? I use 75% phosphoric acid as ph down right now.
I don't know anything about FloraFlex. Does it require using a pH down product to lower the pH after mixing? If so then you would replace the pH down with the PeKacid after mixing the nutrient solution. If you're already using phosphoric acid for lowering the pH then you are already using the main ingredient in PeKacid.
 

xtsho

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You could also try using cleaner nutrients
That's a big one right there. Some nutrients are going to leave a buildup no matter what you do. That's why I only run clean highly water soluble salts when running any grow that uses a reservoir or lines. Anything with any organics is going to have issues with buildup potentially clogging lines and drippers/emitters, etc... And some well known nutes that have no organics can cause problems as well. That sludgy GH Micro was one that I had to stop using years ago. Same thing with the one time I did a run with botanicare. Made a mess of everything.
 

xtsho

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H&G drip clean wouldn't be a bad option either to help the keep clean.
PeKacid is the same thing. Phosphoric acid and potassium oxide. It's just in a much more concentrated form and significantly less expensive. You can pay $20 a bottle for Drip Clean or $15 for a pound of PeKacid and make gallons and gallons of the same thing.

Drip Clean label

 

rkymtnman

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PeKacid is the same thing. Phosphoric acid and potassium oxide. It's just in a much more concentrated form and significantly less expensive. You can pay $20 a bottle for Drip Clean or $15 for a pound of PeKacid and make gallons and gallons of the same thing.

Drip Clean label

good call. once the nute companies get their hands on something, it goes up in price 110%. lol.
 

xtsho

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good call. once the nute companies get their hands on something, it goes up in price 110%. lol.
Sometimes much more than that. Another one is silica products derived from potassium silicate. You can buy a pound of Agsil 16H for the price of a couple of beers and make a 50 gallon drum full of solution or you can pay $20 for the same stuff mixed with water and put in a liter bottle.

I always read the labels and am not going to be paying for an easily obtained and inexpensive product when I can just skip the middleman and add water myself. Unless it's an organic product all these chemical salts come from the same factories. Cannabis nutrient companies just buy them in bulk, add water, and put them in a bottle. It's not rocket science.
 
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