How Much Light Can Marijuana Photosynthesize?

taGyo

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Hello all,

So I have a scientific question. I recently had a buddy run 24/0 and after having a good look at his plants I decided I'd never run 24/0 in my life.
Why?
His plants look sad. The leaves are green but droopy, the nodes are a little too tight blocking light penetration, it's like it tried to grow and grow but ended up stacking on top of itself way to much. He's now going through a hell of a stretch period and IMO should defoliate to get maximum light penetration.

There is no doubt that Marijuana can use 24 hours of light as it is a C3 plant but it's also a short-day plant which would lead me to believe it should be under less then 18 hours a day for great growth. There should be SOME stretching to create maximum penetration and ideal budding spots.

What some people also don't seem to understand is that with the lights on marijuana intakes CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) and exhales oxygen. During the night cycle this is reversed, oxygen is taken in and CO2 is expelled. This creates a great environment for the next time the lights are on and I suspect is why plants under shorter lighting cycles then 24/0 don't tend to droop as much or stretch as much.

For this reason I've found the Gas Lantern Routine (Or 12 on 5.5 off 1 on and 5.5 off) to be extremely interesting. Users report NO stretch through when switching to flower because the plant has already acclimated itself to building up these flowering hormones and has stretched over night. Stretch is not a bad thing (unless height limitations are reached) as it allows maximum light penetration through what would be a thick canopy.
Users also report bushier plants and faster flowering using GLR.

During the night cycle of 12 hours Marijuana's flowering hormones hit a maximum and tell the plant to flower. The 1 hour break in between breaks up the flowering hormones. This can be done with CFLs, T5s or your HID. These hormones are broken down in the first ten minutes but the hour (Some users do two) is for that extra security.

Not all strains respond accordingly though and some do flower but most have unstable genetics to begin with. Sativas generally prefer this method versus Indica who seem to like the longer day schedules.

Any thoughts? I'm starting to believe that maybe 16/8 would even be better then 18/6. Yes cannabis doesn't NEED a dark period but the CO2 generation is a great reason alone to give them that dark period.
 

ISK

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I tried 16/8 once and was very impressed

It was an experiment to determine if environment can influence gender, which was inconclusive.

The room with 16/8 outperformed the 20/4, but there were other environmental factors that contributed so I can't say how big of difference the 16/8 made.

So i'm thinking why waste the extra 4 hours of electricity if you don't need it.

as for running 24/0...personally I just don't like the idea...if nothing else the dark cycle allows the room to cool down, while saving power cost and bulb life span....I have never seen any benefit to running 24/0 that would justify the down sides
 

torontoke

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This topic generates alot of heated debate but i have tried the glr for veg and the 12:1 for flower and will never ever go back to 18/6 or 12/12.
Most growers are stubborn old school guys that are fixed in their ways or cash croppers that say quality is more important than quantity until this topic comes up.

The glr does veg plants as nicely as a 18/6 cycle except you save a bunch of energy.
 

torontoke

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Ive heard all the excuses and some are truly mind blowing. Oh that could never work or else everyone would be doing it is my favorite.

Just like any other changes to how people do things you will have those that say nope you need to do it the regular way or else you cant know what your doing.
I think trying new things is crucial to dialing in your grow area and finding what truly works best for you and your goals.

Just my two cents but im biased
 

RM3

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Use to do 16/8 till I discovered the GLR a a couple years ago. Now I use GLR and will never look back I also do 10:30/13:30 in flower for various reasons :)
 

torontoke

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Lol dont even get me started on flowering. I think its awesome that more and more people are trying things and thats the only way to truly find what works best for you.
 

taGyo

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I used to think that weed was okay without a dark period until I saw my friends droopy, way-to-tight plants. It just didn't look natural. Plus the benefits of that extra CO2 in a room not pumping CO2 in is crucial and I think helps promote greater plant life.

I'm expecting a debate, shit I'm hoping for it, so I know who's on which side.
 

torontoke

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There arent really that many people that are willing to sacrifice a few plants here or there to try many new things out.
So u wont get to much debate just the handfull of us that believe in doing things different versus everyone else thats happy the old ways seem to work.

Have you read joe pietris article that was in skunk mag feb/march?
Lots of good info on the subject.
 

bicit

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Ive heard all the excuses and some are truly mind blowing. Oh that could never work or else everyone would be doing it is my favorite.

Just like any other changes to how people do things you will have those that say nope you need to do it the regular way or else you cant know what your doing.
I think trying new things is crucial to dialing in your grow area and finding what truly works best for you and your goals.

Just my two cents but im biased
I F'ing hate that line.... It infuriates me to no end no matter what the topic :P

With regards to the GLR light cycle, I have a few questions.

1: Is this done with some sort of 730nm light source to put the plant to sleep? Many over in the LED section are using 730nm LEDs to put the plants to sleep sooner in order to run a 13/11, 14/10, and a few have even gotten pretty crazy with something like a 12/2 cycle.

2: Is this implemented during veg, flower or during the transition?
 

torontoke

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Yeah, him and @RM3 convinced me :lol:
I F'ing hate that line.... It infuriates me to no end no matter what the topic :P

With regards to the GLR light cycle, I have a few questions.

1: Is this done with some sort of 730nm light source to put the plant to sleep? Many over in the LED section are using 730nm LEDs to put the plants to sleep sooner in order to run a 13/11, 14/10, and a few have even gotten pretty crazy with something like a 12/2 cycle.

2: Is this implemented during veg, flower or during the transition?
ive heard of some people using those to put plants to sleep with some benefit. I however just use my reg veg mh light on glr and an hps for flower 8/16.
 
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