Mar- A Lago raided FBI Warrants

DIY-HP-LED

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How does it work? Who is the final authority and what triggers their intervention?
When Garland indicts him in DC, but first let him dig a little deeper and take her with him into the hole. This is not even a speed bump on the road to justice since Garland doesn't want to indict him until after the election.
 

CunningCanuk

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How does it work? Who is the final authority and what triggers their intervention?
Didn’t the DOJ appeal the decision to allow the Special Master? If they win the appeal, the special master situation would be irrelevant, wouldn’t it?

As I understand it, the final authority is a higher court and could potentially be the Supreme Court, if it goes that far. The appeal process instigated by the DOJ triggers the intervention.
 

hanimmal

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Didn’t the DOJ appeal the decision to allow the Special Master? If they win the appeal, the special master situation would be irrelevant, wouldn’t it?

As I understand it, the final authority is a higher court and could potentially be the Supreme Court, if it goes that far. The appeal process instigated by the DOJ triggers the intervention.
I think it was something about the actually classified documents that the Trump judge told the DoJ they couldn't use to investigate was shot down by the appeals court.
 

CunningCanuk

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cannabineer

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Didn’t the DOJ appeal the decision to allow the Special Master? If they win the appeal, the special master situation would be irrelevant, wouldn’t it?

As I understand it, the final authority is a higher court and could potentially be the Supreme Court, if it goes that far. The appeal process instigated by the DOJ triggers the intervention.
The bit that caught my eye was the implication that Cannon would be taken off the case, if I read that right. How that might work … I don’t know but would like to know if there is guiding precedent etc. I would like to see Cannon experience consequences for her apparently corrupt departure from judicial norms, and (knowing essentially nothing about Federal jurisprudence) can’t game it out.
 

CunningCanuk

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The bit that caught my eye was the implication that Cannon would be taken off the case, if I read that right. How that might work … I don’t know but would like to know if there is guiding precedent etc. I would like to see Cannon experience consequences for her apparently corrupt departure from judicial norms, and (knowing essentially nothing about Federal jurisprudence) can’t game it out.
That’s how I understand it, too but I’m far from an expert.
 

schuylaar

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This is from early September^^^^. We are already way past this DOJ got to review everything regardless of Special Master.


Appeals Court Allows DOJ to Resume Review of Classified Mar-a-Lago Documents
A three-judge panel granted the Justice Department’s request to resume its review of around 100 documents marked as classified retrieved from Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate.

 

CunningCanuk

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This is from early September^^^^. We are already way past this DOJ got to review everything regardless of Special Master.


Appeals Court Allows DOJ to Resume Review of Classified Mar-a-Lago Documents
A three-judge panel granted the Justice Department’s request to resume its review of around 100 documents marked as classified retrieved from Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate.

Yes, I know but the DOJ is appealing Cannon’s decision to allow a special master.
 

hanimmal

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Yes, I know but the DOJ is appealing Cannon’s decision to allow a special master.
I think that the DoJ slickly cherry picked parts of the ruling to appeal and not the entire thing. It was somewhat confusing early on, so I may be wrong, but pretty sure it was just to make sure they could plow forward with those particular documents being used still in their criminal investigation and didn't try to overturn the entire thing to give Trump a way to further kick the can down the road by appealing the appeal's decision. My understanding of law is virtually nonexistent though, so... yeah.
 

CunningCanuk

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I think that the DoJ slickly cherry picked parts of the ruling to appeal and not the entire thing. It was somewhat confusing early on, so I may be wrong, but pretty sure it was just to make sure they could plow forward with those particular documents being used still in their criminal investigation and didn't try to overturn the entire thing to give Trump a way to further kick the can down the road by appealing the appeal's decision. My understanding of law is virtually nonexistent though, so... yeah.
Ok, I misunderstood. I thought I read somewhere that the DOJ was trying to get the appeals court to expedite the appeal of Cannons first decision, the allowance of the special master.

What do you think would happen if Dearie resigned?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Ok, I misunderstood. I thought I read somewhere that the DOJ was trying to get the appeals court to expedite the appeal of Cannons first decision, the allowance of the special master.

What do you think would happen if Dearie resigned?
i think cannon might get removed from the bench, at least temporarily, by a judicial review board. a lot of judges are in trump's pocket, but a lot more aren't, and even the very conservative ones don't want to see someone so blatantly biased making obviously bad decisions, when the court's honesty and reliability is at an all time low, when people's faith in the court has never been lower in the history of the country.
at the very least, they would remove her from this case and reassign it to someone who can at least mask their pro trump sentiments.
 

hanimmal

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Ok, I misunderstood. I thought I read somewhere that the DOJ was trying to get the appeals court to expedite the appeal of Cannons first decision, the allowance of the special master.

What do you think would happen if Dearie resigned?
More delay that is what Trump ultimately wants.

I don't think that Garland and all the people who are actual specialist that are working on these cases are going to stop. Trump is hoping that he is working with a 2.5 year timeline.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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More delay that is what Trump ultimately wants.

I don't think that Garland and all the people who are actual specialist that are working on these cases are going to stop. Trump is hoping that he is working with a 2.5 year timeline.
yeah, people keep implying that trump should remain free to cause problems, and i can agree, conditionally. if they're going to let him remain free until just after the presidential elections in 24, then i agree, let him run loose and do as much damage as possible, and guarantee a republican loss, when he splits their voter base.
if they're intending to charge him any time before the actual elections, then just nail his ass to the wall the day after midterms, and get it out of the way. the only real advantage to him staying free is the irreperable harm he is doing to the republican party, and the fact that his magat base will vote for him, fucking over who ever else the republicans might run. if they're not going to take advantage of that, then there is no advantage to trump running free, causing more damage to Democracy and America.
 

hanimmal

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yeah, people keep implying that trump should remain free to cause problems, and i can agree, conditionally. if they're going to let him remain free until just after the presidential elections in 24, then i agree, let him run loose and do as much damage as possible, and guarantee a republican loss, when he splits their voter base.
if they're intending to charge him any time before the actual elections, then just nail his ass to the wall the day after midterms, and get it out of the way. the only real advantage to him staying free is the irreperable harm he is doing to the republican party, and the fact that his magat base will vote for him, fucking over who ever else the republicans might run. if they're not going to take advantage of that, then there is no advantage to trump running free, causing more damage to Democracy and America.
I don't think that they are playing politics with this as much as they are trying to figure out how to defuse all of the traps that have been laid (either during his time as POTUS (like stealing files that might have important information, planting trolls who will lie, shitty hires who are really there just to help Trump, etc) or actual mentally disturbed citizens.

Also the 'political prisoner' nonsense that the Republicans will push to pretend like Trump is Mulvaney or whatever, on and on. This investigation from what it looks like now that we see how much Trump tried to hide/burn/flush/etc really didn't start until what a year ago or so when Garland finally got all his people in place thanks to the Republican sandbagging.
 
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