Selfing an Auto?

I'm interested in seed production and wanted to try selfing a White Widow Auto. I have one seed left and wanted to try, a self watering, self contained Cannibus Sex Tub!
Can I spray only one branch with CS, or other stuff, and get one branch to sprout male pollen pods? Then use that pollen to fertilize the female flowers?

The resultant seeds should be feminine and Autos, right? The two seeds I'm growing now have tow different phenotypes, one is 20" tall and covers about 1 sq foot, the other is a 36" tall bitch that hogs the light of my other two plants if I let her spread out from her ~9 sq feet! each phenotype is Okay by me, or maybe the third seed will be comletely different??

GoatSoup said:

I'm interested in seed production and wanted to try selfing a White Widow Auto. I have one seed left and wanted to try, a self watering, self contained Cannibus Sex Tub!
Can I spray only one branch with CS, or other stuff, and get one branch to sprout male pollen pods? Then use that pollen to fertilize the female flowers?

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Interesting. You basically want a hermaphrodite?

You're wanting to do that with 1 plant correct?

Yeah. I only have one seed for Fem White Widow Auto seed and I want to have her fuck herself!

I could do it with a Fem Northern Lights Auto, crossbreed and maybe speed up the flowering time but for now I want to make some WW Auto Seeds. This is an experiment I can afford to make and not fuck up WW and Durban Poison in my soon to harvest grow room.

GoatSoup said:

Yeah. I only have one seed for Fem White Widow Auto seed and I want to have her fuck herself!

I could do it with a Fem Northern Lights Auto, crossbreed and maybe speed up the flowering time but for now I want to make some WW Auto Seeds. This is an experiment I can afford to make and not fuck up WW and Durban Poison in my soon to harvest grow room.

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Your going to attempt to self a plant. But still tryin to smoke the weed?

You can do it but you're going to have to get the timing right. I think it's best to use 2 plants. One for reversing and one for pollinating. Unfortunately you have 1 seed and it's an auto so you won't be able to take a couple clones and use those.

You want to start spraying a branch before it shows pistils. You'll want to start spraying early. You can spray just one branch and the rest of the plant will be fine to smoke. I would use STS. If you use CS don't buy any of that stuff off of Amazon make your own. I've used both and only use STS anymore. $50 worth of chemicals can make enough solution to do dozens of reversals and you just mix when needed.

Good luck.

I’m trying this right now with a gorilla zkittles auto but I took a clone to reverse.

if you happen to get one that doesn’t flower super fast it’s doable. I’m using CS though so spraying a cut while it’s rooting is the sketchiest part I think.


CS works ok but I would go with STS it’s way easier. CS is a daily thing it gets old.

GoatSoup said:

Yeah. I only have one seed for Fem White Widow Auto seed and I want to have her fuck herself!

I could do it with a Fem Northern Lights Auto, crossbreed and maybe speed up the flowering time but for now I want to make some WW Auto Seeds. This is an experiment I can afford to make and not fuck up WW and Durban Poison in my soon to harvest grow room.

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I'm along for the ride, let us know how it turns out!

Worked for me.

Skittlez12 said:

Interesting. You basically want a hermaphrodite?

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No, they are wanting to induce premature rodelization. This is not herming. All offspring will be female.

Johiem said:

Worked for me.


No, they are wanting to induce premature rodelization. This is not herming. All offspring will be female.

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Ok, first time I'm hearing about this. New to the game of cultivation.

Everyone has to start somewhere. Keep learning! There are genetic hermaphrodites, but you'll see them early. Stress induced rodelization is commonly mis- labeled as "herming" as is late flower rodelization. Both of these are the plant basically panicking about their genetic survival.

rodelization is natural? a self survival tactic.
at-least from what iv read. I could be wrong.

Johiem said:

Everyone has to start somewhere. Keep learning! There are genetic hermaphrodites, but you'll see them early. Stress induced rodelization is commonly mis- labeled as "herming" as is late flower rodelization. Both of these are the plant basically panicking about their genetic survival.

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Its intriguing, for sure. That was kind of my first thought from what little info I've learned. So STS is a synthetic method of inducing it, which would be the most surefire way of knowing you'll produce feminized seeds?

A stress tested mother that turns hermie bc of said stress test wouldn't be so sure?

I also didn't know it could be done with an auto, thought genetics weren't so obsolete, to reproduce essentially.

I'm still looking for some coroplast and will check out STS at my local hydro shop. I probably have most of what I'd need to make my own CS, just need a foot of silver wire.
Ha, found the sticky'd thread about selfing just after I started this thread.

Now I just need some feedback on the wicking idea to make my self contained seed tub work.

Skittlez12 said:

Its intriguing, for sure. That was kind of my first thought from what little info I've learned. So STS is a synthetic method of inducing it, which would be the most surefire way of knowing you'll produce feminized seeds?

A stress tested mother that turns hermie bc of said stress test wouldn't be so sure?

I also didn't know it could be done with an auto, thought genetics weren't so obsolete, to reproduce essentially.

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Even stress induced rodelization will be female, BUT the offspring will be more easily stressed to the point of rodelization. Unless it is a genetic hermaphrodite it will still produce female seeds. Telling the difference isn't to hard. Sacs or nanners? Full on sacs= genetic herm, nanners= rodelization.

With STS vs CS, STS treatments last 4-5 days before reapplication is needed. CS is daily. I got mine from Twenty20mendocino 30 bucks and I'm flipping my third from that one bottle.

Johiem said:

Even stress induced rodelization will be female, BUT the offspring will be more easily stressed to the point of rodelization. Unless it is a genetic hermaphrodite it will still produce female seeds. Telling the difference isn't to hard. Sacs or nanners? Full on sacs= genetic herm, nanners= rodelization.

With STS vs CS, STS treatments last 4-5 days before reapplication is needed. CS is daily. I got mine from Twenty20mendocino 30 bucks and I'm flipping my third from that one bottle.

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That's probably the only kit worth buying. But I prefer to just get the chemicals. But some are hard to get in some countries.

Silver nitrate 2 grams $16.95


Sodium thiosulfate 30 grams $4.10


That's $20.60 plus shipping and makes a ton of solution.

Maybe if it knows its the last of its kind it might throw a few seeds your way lol

xtsho said:

That's probably the only kit worth buying. But I prefer to just get the chemicals. But some are hard to get in some countries.

Silver nitrate 2 grams $16.95

Silver Nitrate, 2 g

This 2 g bottle of silver nitrate, also known as lunar caustic, is an inorganic compound. Discover the silver nitrate formula, density, shelf life, and more!

www.homesciencetools.com

Sodium thiosulfate 30 grams $4.10

Sodium Thiosulfate, 30 g

Sodium thiosulfate or thiosulphate, 30 g bottle, anhydrous form. Na2S2O3. Get your small quantity fast and cheap!

www.homesciencetools.com

That's $20.60 plus shipping and makes a ton of solution.

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Oh Wow! Thanks for this. Come on Payday! Merry Christmas!

SlappinAhoe said:

Maybe if it knows its the last of its kind it might throw a few seeds your way lol

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The first cross I made years ago was from nanners that showed up on a Master Kush plant I was growing. I used that pollen on a Chocolope and the cross turned out great. I lost those genetics years ago though.

GoatSoup said:

Oh Wow! Thanks for this. Come on Payday! Merry Christmas!

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That's USA. I have links for Canada for the chemicals as well. Some countries you can't get them.

xtsho said:

That's probably the only kit worth buying. But I prefer to just get the chemicals. But some are hard to get in some countries.

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Chemicals are cheap to get anywhere, as soon as you've found the online channels that chemists and pharmacists use.

It only gets complicated when the substances are regulated or can easily be used to make dangerous compounds.

That's apparently not true for silver nitrate and sodium thiosulfate → find a regular online chemical supplier.

One can make far more STS for maybe $20 worth of chemicals than most people will ever need.

Some substances can be found on Amazon with no problem. The reasons are not always obvious: for example, I've been looking for copper compounds suitable for chemical root pruning (ie. paint the interior of a pot with it). By far the easiest to find was cupric carbonate, and I assume this is because it is used to make fireworks (?).

Hint: go on YouTube and find Weed in a Pot and Hemp in a Pot; that guy demonstrates how to make STS and also how to self Autos and regular plants. Very educational content.

xtsho said:

The first cross I made years ago was from nanners that showed up on a Master Kush plant I was growing. I used that pollen on a Chocolope and the cross turned out great. I lost those genetics years ago though.



That's USA. I have links for Canada for the chemicals as well. Some countries you can't get them.

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‘Pretty tuff loss on that cross … that sounded like a solid keeper right there.