Noob confusion here - I have a Rio Negro from Centennial Seeds that is looking really nice in its 4th week of flower. Problem is I put it in a little 2 gallon pot because I had no experience with the Sativa height problem. So now it is short after bending and has 10 secondary colas but the buds are popcorn sized. Can I transplant this late in the grow? Would it do any good at this point - I was planning on 12 weeks of flower to minimize the head problems I have had with other Sativas. Thanks in advance for any advice.
Transplant during flower?
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Budley Doright
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In my experience the plant does not like it but I have done it, it does seem to stop growing for a bit till it adjusts 
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MichiganMedGrower
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Huh. I have still been wary of this but really for no good reason. I can transplant very well now so after reading the above comments I think I am going to transplant up my next week 3-4 flowering plant and see how far Ocean Forest will take it.
They have only been given well water to that point.
Most of my hybrids flower 10+ weeks so I expect to need some fertilizer still by week 7 or earlier.
Anyone got a guess of pot size for a 4-5 ounce dry plant to make it to harvest at 10 weeks + on water only in Ocean Forest and 20% perlite added?
I use go-pro nursery pots. It will be from a #3 up to a tall #5 pot. Which is really a 2.4 gallon to a 4.1 gallon in actual volume of soil.
They have only been given well water to that point.
Most of my hybrids flower 10+ weeks so I expect to need some fertilizer still by week 7 or earlier.
Anyone got a guess of pot size for a 4-5 ounce dry plant to make it to harvest at 10 weeks + on water only in Ocean Forest and 20% perlite added?
I use go-pro nursery pots. It will be from a #3 up to a tall #5 pot. Which is really a 2.4 gallon to a 4.1 gallon in actual volume of soil.
Budley Doright
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I use 10 gallon bags but their outdoor grows, indoors it's a 6" net pot 
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MichiganMedGrower
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We'll both of those containers sound perfect for your grows. But what do I get?I use 10 gallon bags but their outdoor grows, indoors it's a 6" net pot
For my room with low ceilings I will end up with the wider 5 gallon nursery pots. But will the roots grow out as happily as down?
Everyone always talks of cutting the bottom out and placing it right on top of a new one. Which makes sense if you have high ceilings or outdoor.
Lordhooha
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Have you tried Detroit water only soil? http://detroitnutrientcompany.com/our_products
I'm running one plant in seven gallons of this stuff and she's really liking this stuff. And one bag fills a seven gallon pot perfect. For super soil it's priced right too.
Budley Doright
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I'm sure the 4.5 will be fine . im a "better to have than to want" kinda guy though and the odd indoor potted plants I've done were in 5 gallon pots, yes some did get a tad root bound and yes I needed to water a lot so my thinking is get as big as you can fit in the area comfortably. Are they cuttings? I find that seeded plants like to go deep, cuttings don't seem to care as it has no tap
. im a "better to have than to want" kinda guy though and the odd indoor potted plants I've done were in 5 gallon pots, yes some did get a tad root bound and yes I needed to water a lot so my thinking is get as big as you can fit in the area comfortably. Are they cuttings? I find that seeded plants like to go deep, cuttings don't seem to care as it has no tap
Lordhooha
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Right I'd much rather have to much room in the pot then have to little. Plus bigger root zone bigger yieldsI'm sure the 4.5 will be fine
MichiganMedGrower
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Never seen it out this way but we have stores stocking M3 or something.
Super soil would be the ultimate end of my experiment I suppose.
Had not considered bagged super soil. Thanks.
MichiganMedGrower
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Got both seedlings and cutting going.I'm sure the 4.5 will be fine
I will probably end up with those wide 5's though.
I don't veg long enough to warrant more I don't expect.
Budley Doright
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I wish I could give a definitive answer, sorry, but me and dirt don't do well inside
. How long do you veg?
MichiganMedGrower
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It can be somewhat variable in the perpetual as I plug plants into flower early or late sometimes but 6 to 7 weeks for my room is my preference.I wish I could give a definitive answer, sorry, but me and dirt don't do well inside
It's impossible to time it all perfect. The gaps in production is why I just added a third light to flower. I added some more t5 tubes to the veg tents too.
But I like to veg at least to maturity for potency and structure.
MichiganMedGrower
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See @Budley Doright i sprout or clone in a red solo cup. 2 weeks transplant up to 1 gallon. 2 to 3 weeks then into a 3 gallon and after 1-2 weeks into flower.
They run out of nutes in the pot week 2 or 3 and I start with pure blend pro grow til the end.
I think if I go to a 5 at the end of week 2 they would have a fantastic base for peak flowering instead of relying on bottled nutes.
I would need to supplement the long flowerers but I bet one or 2 feeds only for the 9 to 10 weekers.
And I suspect possibly better results from the wider spectrum of available nutrients.
Basically super soil without the mixing and guessing.
Sorry for long babble.
What's your method of not dirt. I think this is a transplant thread. Lol.
They run out of nutes in the pot week 2 or 3 and I start with pure blend pro grow til the end.
I think if I go to a 5 at the end of week 2 they would have a fantastic base for peak flowering instead of relying on bottled nutes.
I would need to supplement the long flowerers but I bet one or 2 feeds only for the 9 to 10 weekers.
And I suspect possibly better results from the wider spectrum of available nutrients.
Basically super soil without the mixing and guessing.
Sorry for long babble.
What's your method of not dirt. I think this is a transplant thread. Lol.
Budley Doright
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I didn't say I don't use dirt, just not indoors
. Buy a 14 cubic yard truck load of compost every year so yup I transplant .
MichiganMedGrower
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Yup. I missed the inside part.I didn't say I don't use dirt, just not indoors
http://growgreenmi.com/plant-warrior-container-5-gallon?gclid=CjwKEAiA4dPCBRCM4dqhlv2R1R8SJABom9pH-ROEIyhin_V0fX3-06V1gJxGffRexKwI6dvBd-UFvxoCL5Lw_wcB
This is what i use. I told the guy he was nuts for trying to sell me a 5gal pot and tell me this is the only one id need. The cone in the center allows the roots to grow out, down, and inward to allow the roots to grow as much as they want because when they reach the cone they will self prune by reaching open air allowing the rest of the roots to keep growing thick and strong without root bounding. It was my very first grow and i grabbed 14oz off of my only plant. So i now only use these. They go from clone pots right to 5gals and stay their whole life.
This is what i use. I told the guy he was nuts for trying to sell me a 5gal pot and tell me this is the only one id need. The cone in the center allows the roots to grow out, down, and inward to allow the roots to grow as much as they want because when they reach the cone they will self prune by reaching open air allowing the rest of the roots to keep growing thick and strong without root bounding. It was my very first grow and i grabbed 14oz off of my only plant. So i now only use these. They go from clone pots right to 5gals and stay their whole life.