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[GOD HERE]

Burn is from using too much. You can do that with any nutrient. Proper tools help with that. pH and ppm meters.

A lot of noobs don't know how to use both a PH and ppm meter, and there is a very significant amount of math involved in order to determine the proper amount to feed of MG because the NPK ratios are not ideal to say the least. Add MG to a pre ferted soil and you're just asking for problems. Save yourself some time, hassle, and burned plants and buy something like Fox Farm, whose ratios are appropriate for cannabis.

EDIT: After reading the rest of your posts I'd be careful about what you write, you are a noob, and spreading bad advice in the noob section is not a good way to make an entrance here.

 

[CouchlockOR]

A lot of noobs don't know how to use both a PH and ppm meter, and there is a very significant amount of math involved in order to determine the proper amount to feed of MG because the NPK ratios are not ideal to say the least. Add MG to a pre ferted soil and you're just asking for problems. Save yourself some time, hassle, and burned plants and buy something like Fox Farm, whose ratios are appropriate for cannabis.

EDIT: After reading the rest of your posts I'd be careful about what you write, you are a noob, and spreading bad advice in the noob section is not a good way to make an entrance here.

Dude you are a fucking idiot. I've been growing cannabis for 15+ years and gardening my entire life. I may be a noob here to this site but that's about it.

 

[Nookies]

The burning isn't from using a "sub par non cannabis" nutrient, but rather them feeding it too much. Said noobs will get soil that already had time release nutes in it and then they'll feed full strength MG and tada burns. At the very least just get dyna-gro or general hydroponics nute line. Cheap and works.

My grandfather used to say "You can always add more, but you can't take away".

 

[CouchlockOR]

Yeah your right, I'm a noob. This is my first grow.

 

[BarnBuster]

nice grow, Couch!

 

[CouchlockOR]

nice grow, Couch!

I try my best.

 

[CouchlockOR]

Thanks!

 

[BarnBuster]

I try my best.

proof is in the puddin' guys

 

[MonkeyGrinder]

I've used the exact stuff you're talking about from start to finish.
Like everyone else stated pay attention to your soil. Try and find something mild.
A few people said less is more. That's pretty much gospel when it comes to any nutes.
Now here's my method. I don't do clones. I only start from seed. I also start in a completely neutral soil. One that's completely void of nutes. I don't even touch em til they hit between 4-6 nodes. Right around then (for me) the cotyledons start shriveling up, deflate and die. I use that to tell me when to start giving nutes.
Now inside that little box you'll have a double sided scoop. One end is a half teaspoon (the small end) and 1.5 tablespoons (The big end) That's what gets a lot of people. For some reason they miss that little part in the instructions that says the big scoop in is for a 1.5 gallon "typical watering container".
Some people. Typically ones that have little to no experience cooking or baking. Probably look at the big end and think oh man a tablespoon cool! I got this. Fucking Ace! Then toss that whole thing in a gallon of water and end up toasting their plants. Then they come here and join the crusade because misread instructions. Then everyone else who got high and didn't spot the 1.5 tablespoon marking on the inside of the scoop (it's there just REALLY hard to see) who also toasted their plants will chime in that MG killed their plants, dog, World of Warcraft character. Wrecked the economy etc. So in short big scoop = bad.
So either use a tablespoon you have handy or buy one. You can find the little plastic ones for cooking @ any Walmart or even Dollar General.
Now there's instructions for indoor and outdoor plants. For indoor plants it calls for a half teaspoon (the little scoop) per gallon of water. There's where you'll want to start but at a half dose. Or maybe even 1/4 if you wanna play it super safe. I feel confident starting at a half dose. The next feeding (in 7 days) I up it to 3/4 dose. Then the next feeding (7 more days) they're getting the full indoor dose. Now you can stop there or ramp it up even further. Depending on your plant size. Veg time and whatnot.
I've ramped it up on outdoor plants to the full strength dose gradually (one tablespoon/gallon) and tossed a gallon of the mix per plant in 5-7 gallon containers. I did it once a week faithfully. No problems at all.
And before anyone starts flaming and frothing at the mouth yes I've purchased and used cannabis specific nutes before. I've went to a growshop and spent a gorrillion dollars and had shelves full of bloom boosters, bud candies, powdered tiger testicles, frog farts, composted shaman space dung, and unicorn piss. I've used them indoor and out. Just like I've used MG indoor and out.
Inb4 black ash and all that nonsense and "it'll taste like you're smoking a battery"
Smoking MG grown buds hasn't given me rat AIDS yet. Nor have I tasted batteries. I've personally stuffed at least 30 girls grown from start to finish with MG into a pipe or paper and never seen "black ash" My buds haven't "crackled and sparked" My sperm count is the same according to the frisbee in the nightstand that used to be a towel. And the turtle in the aquarium hasn't grown to a teenager, started eating my pizza and practicing ninjitsu from aquarium hotboxing.
I believed the grow shop guy and other people as well when it came down to MG. You know what? They were wrong.
Yes you can use it. It'll work just fine. If I wanted to mix and measure everything on the planet to get the job done I'd cook meth. Not grow herb.
Just remember big scoop bad.
Now spend 10$ on nutes that'll last you the whole season and not a gorrilion$. Also look at all those other goodies besides NPK on the box. Use the $ you save to buy a PH Tester and a scope to look at tricomes.

 

[MonkeyGrinder]

Good God Couchlock. What strains are those beauties? Especially that one you're holding.

 

[TonightYou]

MG works just fine. Those are good NPK levels. Just take it easy and remember less is more.

 

[CouchlockOR]

Good God Couchlock. What strains are those beauties? Especially that one you're holding.

In the trays growing I have Alien Butter, Forest Fire, Obama Kush, Lemon Kush, Raspberry Kush, The White, Bubba Kush, Northern Lights, Kaia Kush and Chocolate Chunk. The Big bud I'm holding is Trainwreck. Wish I had her back.

 

[MonkeyGrinder]

The Big bud I'm holding is Trainwreck. Wish I had her back.

You and me both man. Trainwreck, Easy Rider and White Widow was my first learning experience with awesome genetics. The hash from the Trainwreck trimmings made my 6'7 400lb friend stare at the floorboards of a Pathfinder for 2 hours. Good times

 

[AimAim]

FWIW I used MG nutes exclusively, and a soil blend with 1/2 being MG organic soil on my Spring grow in my sig. Zip to post #101 to see how they ended up.

It was my first indoor grow and I was happy with how it went.

Many first time growers use MG because they already have it, or it is easy to get. And also many first time growers have no clue how to grow anything, even a tomato plant. And the havoc that is wreaked upon their plants is often sadly incredible. Watering, lighting, fertilizing, environmental factors (temp, humidity, air) all have to be in at least an acceptable range. When their shit goes south they have an easy out. "It was the MG ferts", not their half-dozen dumb-assed blunders. The mantra from the forums is "of course, you used MG, what did you expect"? So newbie hangs his head in shame, and says he has learned the MG lesson.

This is unfortunate because he has now quit trying to figure out how he screwed up his grow. Next grow he'll buy $150 worth of nutes and do it again.

And I have seen just as many trashed grows using the high $ stuff.

Millions of homeowners grow billions of houseplants and landscape gardens with MG. (They tend to read and follow the label). But some weed growers insist it is manufactured by Satan himself, totally unsuitable for weed. And most anti-MG disciples never even tried the stuff, but enjoy adding to the static by retyping what they read.

 

[TonightYou]

FWIW I used MG nutes exclusively, and a soil blend with 1/2 being MG organic soil on my Spring grow in my sig. Zip to post #101 to see how they ended up.

It was my first indoor grow and I was happy with how it went.

Many first time growers use MG because they already have it, or it is easy to get. And also many first time growers have no clue how to grow anything, even a tomato plant. And the havoc that is wreaked upon their plants is often sadly incredible. Watering, lighting, fertilizing, environmental factors (temp, humidity, air) all have to be in at least an acceptable range. When their shit goes south they have an easy out. "It was the MG ferts", not their half-dozen dumb-assed blunders. The mantra from the forums is "of course, you used MG, what did you expect"? So newbie hangs his head in shame, and says he has learned the MG lesson.

This is unfortunate because he has now quit trying to figure out how he screwed up his grow. Next grow he'll buy $150 worth of nutes and do it again.

And I have seen just as many trashed grows using the high $ stuff.

Millions of homeowners grow billions of houseplants and landscape gardens with MG. (They tend to read and follow the label). But some weed growers insist it is manufactured by Satan himself, totally unsuitable for weed. And most anti-MG disciples never even tried the stuff, but enjoy adding to the static by retyping what they read.

Honestly couldn't of said it better myself.

 

[CouchlockOR]

fwiw i used mg nutes exclusively, and a soil blend with 1/2 being mg organic soil on my spring grow in my sig. Zip to post #101 to see how they ended up.

It was my first indoor grow and i was happy with how it went.

Many first time growers use mg because they already have it, or it is easy to get. And also many first time growers have no clue how to grow anything, even a tomato plant. And the havoc that is wreaked upon their plants is often sadly incredible. Watering, lighting, fertilizing, environmental factors (temp, humidity, air) all have to be in at least an acceptable range. When their shit goes south they have an easy out. "it was the mg ferts", not their half-dozen dumb-assed blunders. The mantra from the forums is "of course, you used mg, what did you expect"? So newbie hangs his head in shame, and says he has learned the mg lesson.

This is unfortunate because he has now quit trying to figure out how he screwed up his grow. Next grow he'll buy $150 worth of nutes and do it again.

And i have seen just as many trashed grows using the high $ stuff.

Millions of homeowners grow billions of houseplants and landscape gardens with mg. (they tend to read and follow the label). But some weed growers insist it is manufactured by satan himself, totally unsuitable for weed. And most anti-mg disciples never even tried the stuff, but enjoy adding to the static by retyping what they read.

boomshakaklaka!

 

[CouchlockOR]

You and me both man. Trainwreck, Easy Rider and White Widow was my first learning experience with awesome genetics. The hash from the Trainwreck trimmings made my 6'7 400lb friend stare at the floorboards of a Pathfinder for 2 hours. Good times

Right? Trainwreck was by far the best I've grown in the past 6 years.

 

[JuniorHead]

I'm using MG for my first grow (despite everyone saying not to) and so far my plant seems to be very healthy. I don't really understand what the prob with MG is.

 

[LIBERTYCHICKEN]

The problem is MJ growers insist on pushing the limits , and often burn the plants

So blame it on the fertlizer

 

[schuylaar]

Because someone agreed with you you give them rep. That's exactly what's wrong with this site.

well mr 119 posts or are you "just" a sock puppet?..if you ever GAVE OUT rep you'd know that you can only do so periodically..which means..FAIL.

noobs come here looking for advice..there are a million ways to grow weed..they can pick and choose which members opinion they believe to be more "expert"

perhaps, you'd like to log back on with your regular account because personally i can't imagine anyone taking the advice of someone with 119 posts and 0 journal