Better president: George W. Bush or Barack Obama?

[theexpress]

i no homo....... sorry. da fuq wrong with u

 

[SmokeyDan]

my criterion? i'm only asking you to back up your own claim dipshit.



you keep saying that but you are unable to provide a single shred of evidence.



yes you are, you're making the truther claim over and over and over right now you fucking idiot.

you just can't provide any evidence for it at all, only your own racist feelings about it.

I posted a link to an article where the author says that upon reading Obama's book he discovered Obama claimed to be from Kenya.

You don't get to decide what is proof.

I have given some.

You have given none and set an impossible standard for what I must give.

I win.

And I'm not a truther because I don't think he actually is from Kenya. I think he claimed to be before to get special consideration. Therefore Obama is the entire reason their is a truther movement, because he, before he decided to run for president, thought it would be cool to claim foreign born status.

 

[J.Mike]

wow, you really are an idiot.

go ahead and tell me how much we owe to china.

maybe if obama had destroyed a few businesses and raised the deficit to record highs like his predecessor he would score points with you.

You speak like a child, you must be a child, Sorry you wasted my time, thought you actually could back up something, but you argue. Like a child would, no fact just argument. Go tell mommy that her check is in the mail, and I'm tired of paying for it...Go to school, dont do drugs, get educated, get a job, pay your own bills. Then tell me how great and wonderful of a situation our country is in. Until then does your mommy know you are on this site, talking about things you have shown little or no evidence of, yet also require same evidence. A lie is a lie, not a white lie, just a bold plain lie. Someones lying.. how about the person that tried to hide it. One day when you grow up you will learn this. By the way I am typing really slow, as it is difficult for someone of your young mentality to comprehend anything, any faster. Be cool

 

[UncleBuck]

Obama claimed to be from Kenya.

where?

you still haven't posted one shred of evidence. you posted something where someone else said obama was from kenya.

You don't get to decide what is proof.

i'm just going by your own words.

I have given some.

no you haven't.

You have given none and set an impossible standard for what I must give.

i don't need to post proof of anything, i'm not the one who made the claim. you did.

and now you are calling your own claim impossible to prove.

this is hilarious.

I win.

good job on declaring victory kiddo.

And I'm not a truther

yes you are, you keep claiming that obama said he's from kenya. that's what the birthers (racist idiots) say.

I don't think he actually is from Kenya. I think he claimed to be before to get special consideration. Therefore Obama is the entire reason their is a truther movement, because he, before he decided to run for president, thought it would be cool to claim foreign born status.

there you go making that claim again, the same claim you have yet to post one shred of evidence for and which is the basis of trutherism.

good job on taking it one racist step further and claiming that obama is an affirmative action product with absolutely no evidence to support that implication either.

 

[UncleBuck]

You speak like a child, you must be a child, Sorry you wasted my time, thought you actually could back up something, but you argue. Like a child would, no fact just argument. Go tell mommy that her check is in the mail, and I'm tired of paying for it...Go to school, dont do drugs, get educated, get a job, pay your own bills. Then tell me how great and wonderful of a situation our country is in. Until then does your mommy know you are on this site, talking about things you have shown little or no evidence of, yet also require same evidence. A lie is a lie, not a white lie, just a bold plain lie. Someones lying.. how about the person that tried to hide it. One day when you grow up you will learn this. By the way I am typing really slow, as it is difficult for someone of your young mentality to comprehend anything, any faster. Be cool

you never told us how much of the debt china owns.

nice rage quit though.

 

[SmokeyDan]

Ok Buck, here is a better story about it.

Now I'm aware this is a terribly right wing source, ABC News, but read it for the facts. Not the explanations.

Obama's publisher issues a biography for him a looooong time ago. It's purpose was to promote him as an author.

Suddenly in 2007 this bio is changed, over 20 years after being written. The publisher realized their mistake, and Obama himself, in the previous two decades, never felt the need to correct his own biography.

How to publishers get information from people to compose a biography, they ask them.

The most likely scenario is Obama either said, or was willing to let people believe he was born in Kenya, for whatever reason, until presidential concerns necessitated someone say they made a mistake.

Odds are, Obama is the entire reason their is a truther movement at all.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/born-kenya-obamas-literary-agent-misidentified-birthplace-1991/story?id=16372566

 

[UncleBuck]

Ok Buck, here is a better story about it.

Now I'm aware this is a terribly right wing source, ABC News, but read it for the facts. Not the explanations.

Obama's publisher issues a biography for him a looooong time ago. It's purpose was to promote him as an author.

Suddenly in 2007 this bio is changed, over 20 years after being written. The publisher realized their mistake, and Obama himself, in the previous two decades, never felt the need to correct his own biography.

How to publishers get information from people to compose a biography, they ask them.

The most likely scenario is Obama either said, or was willing to let people believe he was born in Kenya, for whatever reason, until presidential concerns necessitated someone say they made a mistake.

Odds are, Obama is the entire reason their is a truther movement at all.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/born-kenya-obamas-literary-agent-misidentified-birthplace-1991/story?id=16372566

still not one shred of evidence to back up your claim that OBAMA said he was from kenya.

and hillary backers started the birther movement, and then they dropped it when they ran across the birth announcement in the hawaii newspaper. liberals tend to believe in evidence and shit like that.

didn;t stop the retarded and racist faction of the right wing from running with it to this day. good job on being part of that.

 

[J.Mike]

you never told us how much of the debt china owns.

nice rage quit though.

I didn't quit, found nothing to debate. you just concurred china owns US debt. I actually have read and researched it. It difficult to debate with irrational ignorant people, unfortunately you fall into this category. Intelligence over BS, You take, you don't give, again typing slower...

 

[UncleBuck]

I didn't quit, found nothing to debate. you just concurred china owns US debt. I actually have read and researched it. It difficult to debate with irrational ignorant people, unfortunately you fall into this category. Intelligence over BS, You take, you don't give, again typing slower...

wow, one of them actually used ellipses somewhat properly.

remind me again how much of our debt china owns again. i think i missed that the first few times.

 

[Harrekin]

wow, one of them actually used ellipses somewhat properly.

remind me again how much of our debt china owns again. i think i missed that the first few times.

They owned somewhere between 1 and 3.7trillion about 2 or 3 years ago.

But theyre now a net seller of US debt, even they won't hold your paper, lol.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

I thought Obama was from Niger.

 

[reasonevangelist]

Not that it has anything to do with "being a better president" (though maybe it should, actually), but at least Obama admitted that he smoked weed, and doesn't think it's more dangerous than alcohol.

Comparing two men, neither of whom i particularly "like," i'd have to give favoritism to the one who likes weed.

So, i mean... who cares whether he's a good president? He said weed wasn't terrible!

Is that not enough for you people?

LOVE HIM NOW

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

Not that it has anything to do with "being a better president" (though maybe it should, actually), but at least Obama admitted that he smoked weed, and doesn't think it's more dangerous than alcohol.

Comparing two men, neither of whom i particularly "like," i'd have to give favoritism to the one who likes weed.

So, i mean... who cares whether he's a good president? He said weed wasn't terrible!

Is that not enough for you people?

LOVE HIM NOW

send me 62% of your wealth; I'll gladly say things you enjoy hearing.
nice work...if ya can get it.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

I smoke weed, and Reasonevangalist is a swell guy!

(no extra charge)

 

[reasonevangelist]

man if i stay in this thread long enough, i might just get to die of a laughter-induced heart attack.

Comparing with other potentially likely options, that's probably the best one.

Also:

send me 62% of your wealth; I'll gladly say things you enjoy hearing.
nice work...if ya can get it.

Unfortunately (for both of us), 99% of my wealth is intangible. It can't really even be taxed, which is part of why the gov't hates me (or i assume they do). Another part is because i evangelize reason.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

man if i stay in this thread long enough, i might just get to die of a laughter-induced heart attack.

Comparing with other potentially likely options, that's probably the best one.

Also:

Unfortunately (for both of us), 99% of my wealth is intangible. It can't really even be taxed, which is part of why the gov't hates me (or i assume they do). Another part is because i evangelize reason.

shot in the back, by a jealous husband, while running naked from a lady's window........at 82

tax-farmers like tax-sheep. yes.....they hate you.

 

[NLXSK1]

Not that it has anything to do with "being a better president" (though maybe it should, actually), but at least Obama admitted that he smoked weed, and doesn't think it's more dangerous than alcohol.

Comparing two men, neither of whom i particularly "like," i'd have to give favoritism to the one who likes weed.

So, i mean... who cares whether he's a good president? He said weed wasn't terrible!

Is that not enough for you people?

LOVE HIM NOW

He says weed is not terrible yet does nothing to change the federal laws making it illegal.

Which is what his entire presidency is about. Talk but no action.

 

[Harrekin]

He says weed is not terrible yet does nothing to change the federal laws making it illegal.

Which is what his entire presidency is about. Talk but no action.

But he'll legalise it for sure in his second term because he won't have to worry about reelection...

 

[reasonevangelist]

He says weed is not terrible yet does nothing to change the federal laws making it illegal.

Which is what his entire presidency is about. Talk but no action.

Well, you know... i had to look pretty close to find a reason to pick one or the other (and still didn't vote). I'm glad we didn't get Romney ffs. That guy scares me.

Does anyone ever really expect presidential candidates to do anything they say they'll do? The first election i remember was Bush Sr. I haven't seen a president do what they say they'll do yet. I've learned not to expect it. It's all a big show to keep people distracted and cheerleading for whatever is their home team.

But he'll legalise it for sure in his second term because he won't have to worry about reelection...

lol this...

When it comes right down to it:

"Weed isn't terrible" vs. "Mission Accomplished!"

I'm pretty sure this Poll was rhetorical anyway.

 

[Harrekin]

Well, you know... i had to look pretty close to find a reason to pick one or the other (and still didn't vote). I'm glad we didn't get Romney ffs. That guy scares me.

Does anyone ever really expect presidential candidates to do anything they say they'll do? The first election i remember was Bush Sr. I haven't seen a president do what they say they'll do yet. I've learned not to expect it. It's all a big show to keep people distracted and cheerleading for whatever is their home team.



lol this...

When it comes right down to it:

"Weed isn't terrible" vs. "Mission Accomplished!"

I'm pretty sure this Poll was rhetorical anyway.

Bush gets a pretty hard rap, but infairness he didn't say to people "Buy houses you can't afford and we won't regulate the derivitives the loans are bundled into", he merely told Americans what is common knowledge to the rest of the world, that paying rent is dead money.

The two wars people bitch about, most Americans supported them (at least initially) and Skykiller Obama has started more open ended conflicts than Bush.

And at least Bush isn't "one of them" like Obama.