NEED SOME HELP WITH HYDRO

[bl4ze:20]

Im sure ....But still besides all that other shit up top....I run nothing but those buckets ....with awesome results.....I change my water once a week....ph 5.5-5,8.......And my two cents would be to watch your nutes .....Plants seem to burn really easy in em....JME

good looking out bro. im gonna build bucket DWC systems (gonna rock 4 systems, with 2 pumps and 4 air stones) hydroton grow medium, 600w hps/mh for rooted plants, 250w cfl for clones + rockwool and dome/heating mat, Advanced Nutrients line of Nutes, Rapid Starter Root Enhancer for increased rooting from clones/cuttings. standard air line tubing (25feet) gonna get 2 of em and split them in half so i dont have to buy 4 and make it work. Basic setup with hopeful results. everything from my research seems straight forward. shouldnt be a week TOPS and my setup will be movin and groovin. (SOIL grow is already set for scrog, plants are 15 days old and counting) hydro setup will be in the smaller of the 2 tents and we'll see what happens.

 

[meetjoeblow]

i may can be of assistance. first u need to purchase an indentical container it makes it wayyyy easier to clean and flush. wen the time comes u can just lift the plants ant place them in the second container with fresh nutes. second the containers plus the water and plants get HEAVY AS HELL keep that in mind. i dont think the plastic container you have is light proof. to test it hold the lid up to the light and see if light comes through. if so get a black trash bag and some duck tape and wrap it. if not the light will promote algae growth which is the next thing on the list. algae is a major pain in the ass. it raises the ph at a constant rate which forces you to correct it which raises the ppm, and in some cases a layer of slime in the container

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

good looking out bro. im gonna build bucket DWC systems (gonna rock 4 systems, with 2 pumps and 4 air stones) hydroton grow medium, 600w hps/mh for rooted plants, 250w cfl for clones + rockwool and dome/heating mat, Advanced Nutrients line of Nutes, Rapid Starter Root Enhancer for increased rooting from clones/cuttings. standard air line tubing (25feet) gonna get 2 of em and split them in half so i dont have to buy 4 and make it work. Basic setup with hopeful results. everything from my research seems straight forward. shouldnt be a week TOPS and my setup will be movin and groovin. (SOIL grow is already set for scrog, plants are 15 days old and counting) hydro setup will be in the smaller of the 2 tents and we'll see what happens.

These are mine right now..... ...Around the same size tent....I only use 50/50 dynagrow/magpro mix......Sky og left and blue widow right for size comparison....but I love the bucket tops just slide em over and top off.....

 

[meetjoeblow]

the liquid ph test isnt wort it. youre going to need a digital ph meter and a digital tds meter for the ppm. trust me. the ppm effects the liquid tests so sometimes u get shades that arent on the pictures. and if u prune the growth that is aimed at an adjacent plant they shouldnt get too crowded and the plants will just use the energy in other places. and last DO NOT PLANT DIFFERENT STRAINS IN THE SAME SYSTEM. different strains consume different elements at different rates. different strains in a system can result in a flourishing plant next to a deficient one. in a set up like the one you showed i would only use clones if possible. that way everything will be uniform

 

[bl4ze:20]

this has been extremely helpful thank you everyone!! any additional information is always appreciated!

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

What strains you runnin

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

this has been extremely helpful thank you everyone!! any additional information is always appreciated!

BTW ...IDK if it might be a prob for you or not .....But I had a problem with keeping my water cool cuz the black buckets just absorbed the light and would heat it up ......I just wrapped mine in that reflective duct tape woked out very well

 

[bl4ze:20]

BTW ...IDK if it might be a prob for you or not .....But I had a problem with keeping my water cool cuz the black buckets just absorbed the light and would heat it up ......I just wrapped mine in that reflective duct tape woked out very well

I'm gonna start with afghan kush, then move to ak-49. im doing bucket systems so 1 plant per bucket. i dont have all the equipment yet, i ordered everything today. when it comes ill get my shit setup and post pictures of everything as i go, feel free to follow me to see how everything goes.

 

[Mr moonshine.]

Just throw a frozen 2 liter in it !!

 

[cat of curiosity]

hydro is pretty simple if you have experience with it. most people fail a time or three before they learn the rules and get it right.

some tips for a new water worker:

don't be a dick when asking for advice; most hydro growers spent years in the dirt before braving the water, so they have little patience for people being belligerent while seeking experienced knowledge.

get a tds/ph meter for 15$. you MUST have this until you establish a nute regimen and have used it for a few years. even after, if something goes foul, you'll need it to ascertain the conditions of the bad situation. get and use a tds/ph meter.

keep ph at 5.8-6.0, and don't chase it. most hydroponic nutrients will buffer to 6.0. if you mix your solution and get this after 24 hours, leave it! adding up or down will cause you problems. never chase ph; you'll raise ppms and torture the plants, and have nothing but negative results.

keep water below 68f. if you don't, you will get pythium, and your plants will wilt, get sick, and die. every time.

light proof your buckets. if you don't, you will get algae, which will raise your ph, and cause your plants to become sick, and eventually die. you will also get pythium. see the above statement.

DO NOT try to run 4 plants in a 4 gallon res. you will get bound, ph and tds will go apeshit, your plants will get sick and die. 1 plant per 5g. one 5g plant will fill a 3x3 area if not more, so don't over grow.

DO NOT over grow; too many plants in an area will lead to overlapping, which will create a condition perfect for the propagation of powdery mildew. one bucket per 3x3 area.

change res every seven days, regardless of tds/ph.

top off with fresh water daily.

do not try to detangle roots from the airstone. yes, they will eat it, but you need to leave it until harvest.

make a manifold for your air pump/stones, not one stone per outlet per pump. try it your way if you don't want the advice, and see what happens.

frozen bottles of water can be used to chill the water; this is high maintenance, but it does work.






good luck.

 

[bl4ze:20]

Update: I added a Digital TDS meter to my list of equipment, i already have the Digital pH meter along with a manual pH test kit for my soil grow.

 

[bl4ze:20]

hydro is pretty simple if you have experience with it. most people fail a time or three before they learn the rules and get it right.

some tips for a new water worker:

don't be a dick when asking for advice; most hydro growers spent years in the dirt before braving the water, so they have little patience for people being belligerent while seeking experienced knowledge.

get a tds/ph meter for 15$. you MUST have this until you establish a nute regimen and have used it for a few years. even after, if something goes foul, you'll need it to ascertain the conditions of the bad situation. get and use a tds/ph meter.

keep ph at 5.8-6.0, and don't chase it. most hydroponic nutrients will buffer to 6.0. if you mix your solution and get this after 24 hours, leave it! adding up or down will cause you problems. never chase ph; you'll raise ppms and torture the plants, and have nothing but negative results.

keep water below 68f. if you don't, you will get pythium, and your plants will wilt, get sick, and die. every time.

light proof your buckets. if you don't, you will get algae, which will raise your ph, and cause your plants to become sick, and eventually die. you will also get pythium. see the above statement.

DO NOT try to run 4 plants in a 4 gallon res. you will get bound, ph and tds will go apeshit, your plants will get sick and die. 1 plant per 5g. one 5g plant will fill a 3x3 area if not more, so don't over grow.

DO NOT over grow; too many plants in an area will lead to overlapping, which will create a condition perfect for the propagation of powdery mildew. one bucket per 3x3 area.

change res every seven days, regardless of tds/ph.

top off with fresh water daily.

do not try to detangle roots from the airstone. yes, they will eat it, but you need to leave it until harvest.

make a manifold for your air pump/stones, not one stone per outlet per pump. try it your way if you don't want the advice, and see what happens.

frozen bottles of water can be used to chill the water; this is high maintenance, but it does work.






good luck.

What do you mean by "Make a manifold for your air pump/stones" ? i was gonna have 2 stones per pump (2 hoses w/ 2 outlets on the pumps) and every bit of advicee u have given has been taken into consideration, i trust u simply because i dont know enough to disprove your information i only know about soil, i have 0 hydroponics grows under my belt (hoping to change that)

 

[cat of curiosity]

diaphragm pumps suck, and one outlet will always put out less or go dead. so, to equalize this factor, get some T's (t-shaped air hose connectors). run 6'' of hose from each outlet, and connect to the long side of the ''t''. the center becomes a single outlet; run this to your buckets, and attach to the short end of a ''t''. you will then have a left and a right outlet, which you can run a hose to an air stone for two buckets.

this will ensure you have equal air delivered to both stones, instead of one bubbling like hell, and the other barely making a single bubble.

to bypass all of that, if using 4 or more buckets, get an industrial pump. most of them come with a ten outlet manifold, with shut off valves, so you can use ten or anything less. these pumps are generally 5/8'' output, and have to have a manifold to convert to 1/4''. i have one that will run 24 buckets simultaneously.

 

[cat of curiosity]

What do you mean by "Make a manifold for your air pump/stones" ? i was gonna have 2 stones per pump (2 hoses w/ 2 outlets on the pumps) and every bit of advicee u have given has been taken into consideration, i trust u simply because i dont know enough to disprove your information i only know about soil, i have 0 hydroponics grows under my belt (hoping to change that)

i forgot to click 'reply'. see previous post.

 

[rob333]

I purchased a DWC system (with 4 net pots and clay pellet grow medium)

It has:

• Provides a 4 gallon reservoir of nutrient solution. The tight lid houses four strong and flexible 4 in net pots.
• A durable air pump and ceramic airstone infuse the nutrient solution with tiny life giving bubbles.

I have a couple questions:

1. the 4 small net pots, will they be enough for a full sized grow?
2. What are some important things i need to know / watch for while growing on hydroponics?
3. Will i need to buy anything else to go with what i have (picture is going to be included for review)
4. How often do i need to flush the reservoir?
5. Any extra info you feel i should know

heres everything i have. im a bit confused on setting the air pump and ceramic airstone up

UPDATE: I've got 4 soil grows under my belt, starting my 5th (5 plants under a scrog) currently. i wanna get used to growing hydroponically as i have seen some amazing results from hydro. any help you can give is much much much appreciated. Thanks for reading

u can run plants full run in there man i would do like my mate does is trim the roots just dont hit the big thick white tap root or ur fucked besides from that the little white ones u can trim and just scrog as u would in soil just tie the plants down away from ur system heat o wouldent worry to much about

 

[bl4ze:20]

diaphragm pumps suck, and one outlet will always put out less or go dead. so, to equalize this factor, get some T's (t-shaped air hose connectors). run 6'' of hose from each outlet, and connect to the long side of the ''t''. the center becomes a single outlet; run this to your buckets, and attach to the short end of a ''t''. you will then have a left and a right outlet, which you can run a hose to an air stone for two buckets.

this will ensure you have equal air delivered to both stones, instead of one bubbling like hell, and the other barely making a single bubble.

to bypass all of that, if using 4 or more buckets, get an industrial pump. most of them come with a ten outlet manifold, with shut off valves, so you can use ten or anything less. these pumps are generally 5/8'' output, and have to have a manifold to convert to 1/4''. i have one that will run 24 buckets simultaneously.

i appreciate it, im gonnna do an industrial pump with 6 outlets, but i only have 4 buckets, so would i need a manifold and convert it or can i just turn 2 outlets off somehow and only use 4 to run 1 to each bucket?

 

[bl4ze:20]

u can run plants full run in there man i would do like my mate does is trim the roots just dont hit the big thick white tap root or ur fucked besides from that the little white ones u can trim and just scrog as u would in soil just tie the plants down away from ur system heat o wouldent worry to much about

I planned to scrog hydro as well, because i have alot of net and pvc left over, prolly enough to make another net being as how the small tent i will use for hydro is 1/4 of the size of the big one.

 

[cat of curiosity]

i appreciate it, im gonnna do an industrial pump with 6 outlets, but i only have 4 buckets, so would i need a manifold and convert it or can i just turn 2 outlets off somehow and only use 4 to run 1 to each bucket?

an industrial pump should output to a manifold (six site in this case) and each site should have a shut off valve.

this is similar to what i have, but mine is bigger... this one is a 12 site, mine is 24 site.

http://hydrobuilder.com/commercial-air-pump-12-outlets-110-lt-per-minute.html?dzid=csegps_AAPA110L&gclid=CjwKEAjwi6OeBRCCrZqp-qaQhhISJACrfbtAmwzvMftIa0bvjxIw9_4TH2hFEW7sU6dHbaioa2cqtRoCamLw_wcB

 

[bl4ze:20]

an industrial pump should output to a manifold (six site in this case) and each site should have a shut off valve.

this is similar to what i have, but mine is bigger... this one is a 12 site, mine is 24 site.

http://hydrobuilder.com/commercial-air-pump-12-outlets-110-lt-per-minute.html?dzid=csegps_AAPA110L&gclid=CjwKEAjwi6OeBRCCrZqp-qaQhhISJACrfbtAmwzvMftIa0bvjxIw9_4TH2hFEW7sU6dHbaioa2cqtRoCamLw_wcB

http://www.amazon.com/EcoPlus-Air-Pump-Outlet/dp/B0013LP1ZE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1405747014&sr=8-2&keywords=hydroponic+air+pump+4+outlets << would this work?

 

[bl4ze:20]

it has 4 outlets, im assuming it would work to run 1 tube from each outlet?