Robin Williams Suicide

Pinworm

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I know a guy who started mowing lawns 30 years ago.

He makes 200k a year and doesn't touch the grass anymore.

He owns several trucks and dozens of mowers. Employees about 30 people.

There is a fuck ton of money in a lawn service.

In small towns you're price is lower and every hillbilly with an old snapper and a socket set is in the game too.

But if you're in a decent sized town, it's real good money.

Go with a Gravely. Not quite as good as a Skag, but a lot cheaper to operate.
My gpops did that shit all the way into his 70's. Made some good scratch.
 

hyroot

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I know a guy who started mowing lawns 30 years ago.

He makes 200k a year and doesn't touch the grass anymore.

He owns several trucks and dozens of mowers. Employees about 30 people.

There is a fuck ton of money in a lawn service.

In small towns you're price is lower and every hillbilly with an old snapper and a socket set is in the game too.

But if you're in a decent sized town, it's real good money.

Go with a Gravely. Not quite as good as a Skag, but a lot cheaper to operate.
does he make 200k a year or does the business make 200k a year. That's a big difference. Employees, equipment, maintenance, insurance, etc...
 

SmokeyDan

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does he make 200k a year or does the business make 200k a year. That's a big difference. Employees, equipment, maintenance, insurance, etc...
Well, both.

There is no difference.

He is the business.

Equipment, wages, insurances and maintenance are all costs of business.

He might make well more than 200k, that's a minimum. He has hundreds of accounts he services over 30 weeks out of the year.
 

hyroot

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Well, both.

There is no difference.

He is the business.

Equipment, wages, insurances and maintenance are all costs of business.

He might make well more than 200k, that's a minimum. He has hundreds of accounts he services over 30 weeks out of the year.

cool if a business makes 200k a year and the overhead is 150k then the owner takes home 50k. example of how businesses operate. cost of business is the overhead.
 

Doer

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I never did like Robin Williams. All that comedic shell was a scam.

That is unless he was in big time with the Mob and owed beyond his ability to pay?
 

NoDrama

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Go with a Gravely. Not quite as good as a Skag, but a lot cheaper to operate.
I had to look those up, nice zero turn mowers. $10,000 for a nice one. The last mower I bought for the front yard was a decent Toro self propelled 5 HP model with a 22" cut that I paid $95 for 21 years ago. Still works great.

For the big jobs I just attach this
 

SmokeyDan

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cool if a business makes 200k a year and the overhead is 150k then the owner takes home 50k. example of how businesses operate. cost of business is the overhead.
No... I mean I understand what your saying but you're over thinking it.

Dude is a sole proprietor. I'm not his accountant. I just know he does very well. I know what one crew makes him and I know how many crews he has.

What's left after expenses is what he and the
 

SmokeyDan

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I had to look those up, nice zero turn mowers. $10,000 for a nice one. The last mower I bought for the front yard was a decent Toro self propelled 5 HP model with a 22" cut that I paid $95 for 21 years ago. Still works great.

For the big jobs I just attach this
When you're mowing 20+ yards a day that those snapped together mowers won't hold up.

You need the commercial grade, welded and bolts instead of sheet metal pop riveted.
 

schuylaar

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Lewis Black Slams Rush Limbaugh With A Big Ol' F*CK YOU!
by Leslie SalzilloFollow


The very thunderous and politically outspoken comedian, Lewis Black, lashed out at Rush Limbaugh yesterday for Limbaugh's recent comments about the late Robin Williams.
Black posted on his own Facebook page:

Fuck You Rush Limbaugh. Your statements were beyond cruel and stupid. They were intolerable. Enough is enough from you. You are an idiot. Don't you ever demean the death of another human being. He was my friend. You disgust me." Lewis Black is not alone in his sentiments. The 'Hate Radio' talk show host, Rush Limbaugh, disgusts the majority of people in and outside of the country. He has been getting away with racism, homophobia, misogyny and bigotry, on our tax-paid public radio, for decades. Finally, the public is doing something about it. There are several ways to protest Rush Limbaugh.
Sign: Limbaugh Sponsor & Clear Channel Petition
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Join: The Fight To Flush Rush
Visit: StopRush.net for a list of Limbaugh Sponsors On Tuesday, Lewis Black reminisced, in a Time.com piece, about his friendship and collaboration with Robin Williams. They entertained troops together during two USO tours in the late 2000's. Many stories of sorrow, love, and respect for Robin Williams continue to flood mainstream and social media. If there is a heaven, he is there, out of his pain. Millions around the world will love and miss him dearly.​
 

schuylaar

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What? Do you want someone to call you a dick by making such a idiotic fucking statement? The guy had Parkinson's disease, and had been SUFFERING from depression for decades. Well, your understanding of what would make anybody take their life is pitiful, and I feel sorry for you, actually. You must lead a miraculous life, that someone that you knew didn't take their life. I have known a few, and all cried before doing it. Talked to most, no help given, and they just surrendered. Fuck you
+rep:clap:
 

schuylaar

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I had friend take his life a few years ago.. He was a pro skater. Filmed at area 51. Then went crazy after that. He thought the feds were after him and working with the aliens. a few days before he died. he told his father they're coming and he had to protect them.. He may have thought taking his life would save them. He could have been depressed. He would show up at every ones house and get mad that people were busy and peoiple would kick him out too. So he could have been very lonely. What if the feds were really after him and they made it look like a suicide.
that is paranoid-schizoprenia..not depression.
 

schuylaar

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Demonizing Suicide Victims and Those who Mourn them is NOT Acceptable
by Todd FarallyFollow

Late Monday afternoon (08/11/2014), I'm in the kitchen with my roommate and he exclaims, "What, Robin Williams died?!?" My first thought was: "Oh man, he was one of my favorite comedic actors...this sucks."

It wasn't till later when the dust settled and it all sunk in how hard it would actually hit me...



As the night progressed on I would see numerous Facebook posts and news articles related to this tragedy. There wasn't an official announcement at this point, but it was suspected that the comic great had committed suicide. I then spotted this article written by my friend David Phillips. After reading it, I felt as though I had been punched directly in the gut.

Not many people know this about me and it's something I rarely talk about unless you're someone that's close to me. I don't even like to think about it and honestly I'm finding it very difficult to type right now. So here goes, I'm just going to rip it off like a band-aid...

I am the child of a parent who committed suicide.

Anyone who knows me probably can't believe that I'm writing this, but with the aftermath of Robin Williams' death, I must speak my peace and I can't do that without complete honesty and transparency to those reading this.

I want to stress that this is not something that is so cut and dry to where you can just say they were selfish to commit such an act. That's absolute drivel; to think that the human condition can be summed up in such simple terms is lazy and ignorant. You honestly believe the man that did Comic Relief to help the homeless and gave his time and talent to entertain our Service men and women at home and abroad was selfish?

Selfishness doesn’t play into this equation when it comes to suicide, people who are truly selfish don’t do this, they would never want to hurt the person they love most in the world, namely themselves. This is about a disease, this is about depression. A man that gave so much laughter, love and hope to millions of people is the furthest thing from selfish and it doesn’t take a genius to work that out.

Anyone who knew my father would have never described him as selfish, like Robin Williams he was a kind and caring man that wanted nothing more than to give back, to make the world a better place. And during his time on this earth, I think he did, but the grip of depression was too much for him to bear. When in that state you aren’t your true self and without help it’s impossible to escape.

As for those people (and I use that term quite loosely) that feel it’s alright to attack someone that is grieving the loss of a loved one to suicide, you seriously need lessons in how to be a human being (I’m not saying what I really want to, but I think you get the hint). You may have the right to say those things, but that doesn’t mean you should. Most of you trolls have no clue what these people are going through and I hope you never have to know what it’s like.

At first it’s absolutely surreal, you feel as though you’re in someone else’s nightmare, this can’t be your life. You then start to come out of the haze to start to cope with the reality and at this point those mourning sometimes reach out to others; whether it be a phone call, text or via social media. I’ve noticed that some say that using social media to grieve is wrong, but being that we’re living in the information age and for many young people that is the normal thing to do, you have to understand whether you agree with it or not, that’s where much of their support system is found. Now, imagine at this very fragile point you are attacked by internet trolls… that is unacceptable and as a society we should never allow that to go unchallenged.

Lastly, I want to expand on my friend David’s notion of “It’s not your fault” and extend that to Robin Williams’ family and friends. I know for years I had tortured myself with the idea that if only I had seen the signs (and they were there), I could have done something. If only I had spent more time with my Dad that day, it may not have happened… it doesn’t work that way. You need to throw the “what ifs” and “if onlys” out the window, you’ll merely be hurting yourself and that’s not what those that have left us want. We can’t change the past, so we have to live in the present and focus on those we love that are still here and live the best life we possibly can. Don’t beat yourself up, it won’t bring them back, instead honor them by celebrating the life you have.

P.S. Remember, there is help available if you are feeling this way. If you have serious thoughts of suicide, please call this number 1-800-273-8255 for the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. This life and everyone in it is worth it.
 

Silky Shagsalot

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then you lack understanding and shouldn't be commenting on a suicide thread.
i know all i need to know doctor. those meds don't solve anything, they just mask the problem. it's too much work for a psych doc to rid a patient of depression. it's much easier, and monetarily advantageous, to scribble out a med prescription...
 

schuylaar

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i know all i need to know doctor. those meds don't solve anything, they just mask the problem. it's too much work for a psych doc to rid a patient of depression. it's much easier, and monetarily advantageous, to scribble out a med prescription...
fail. SSRI's and such actually change your brain chemistry.

unfortunately, depression is very hereditary and not by choice.

psychiatrists aren't for talk...only meds and they will even tell you that..you have to go to talk therapy if you want to "talk it out".
 

AlecTheGardener

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i know all i need to know doctor. those meds don't solve anything, they just mask the problem. it's too much work for a psych doc to rid a patient of depression. it's much easier, and monetarily advantageous, to scribble out a med prescription...
Treatment from a quality doctor will be two sided: drug intervention if needed along with the severe understanding that the patient should undergo counseling or therapy if some sort. A psychiatric nurse practitioner / PA is often the best option as they offer the best of many worlds, nurses are patient advocates from day one and quality nurses are willing to fight for their patients.

Anything less is a leaky establishment. Anyone who thinks treatment less then this is quality care needs to reevaluate their healthcare providers/systems if possible.

Demonizing drugs get us nowhere, there is a place and a time for the use of drugs in all sort of therapies. I am sorry your experiences and views maybe have led you to believe otherwise, drugs are quite useful when used properly.
 

schuylaar

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Treatment from a quality doctor will be two sided: drug intervention if needed along with the severe understanding that the patient should undergo counseling or therapy if some sort. A psychiatric nurse practitioner / PA is often the best option as they offer the best of many worlds, nurses are patient advocates from day one and quality nurses are willing to fight for their patients.

Anything less is a leaky establishment. Anyone who thinks treatment less then this is quality care needs to reevaluate their healthcare providers/systems if possible.

Demonizing drugs get us nowhere, there is a place and a time for the use of drugs in all sort of therapies. I am sorry your experiences and views maybe have led you to believe otherwise, drugs are quite useful when used properly.
+rep:clap:
 

NLXSK1

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Fuck you motherfucker.

Robin Williams was a fucking coward for killing himself the way he did - for his FAMILY to find him.

His depression was probably of his own making - lifelong alcoholics and cocaine addicts seem to pretty much always be depressed when they quit their drugs.

And even if he had clinical depression before his drug addiction, there are meds and other alternatives to suicide.
He also found out recently that he had parkinsons. It is a degenerative disease that sometimes leaves you unable to care for yourself. Maybe he couldnt bear that thought...

You are blaming him for wanting to kill himself and then blaming him for killing himself.

Murdoch, your mother is dead. There is nothing that will bring her back, nothing that will make her realize the error of her ways or the pain her act has caused you. She is dead. Being angry with her after that is not helpful. Maybe eventually you will move past anger and forgive her for her selfish and pointless act. The anger is hurting you, not her. She is dead.

My mother drank herself into alzheimers. It is called Wernike-Karsokoff disease. Basically she was an anorexic and an alcoholic and she gave herself brain damage. One day she called my sister and claimed she was in bermuda when she was sitting at home alone in America. We thought she just needed to dry out and through some pretty serious coercing got her to sign in voluntarily for a 30 day treatment program. There was a short period of relief until she didnt start getting better... Then we found out she was never going to get better. And she had assets but virtually no income and no insurance including medical as she previously had breast cancer.

I had to sell my pool business, move back to her state and take care of a business that had not produced anything for months, the fact that the IRS became aware she hadnt filed taxes in 5 years and started siezing accounts, a court probate requiring everything to be signed and approved regardless of the fact that me and my sister were in agreement on EVERYTHING and there were no other family involved. It took years of my life to sort out. And finally, when it was all done, on the morning I was packed and ready to get back to Arizona, she died.

That was after 30 years of a mentally manipulative and insane mother.

But she is dead.

Should I be angry with her now?

You cant forgive yourself until you forgive her... It isnt your fault and it wasnt her fault. She just wasnt strong enough to get past her demons.
 

Silky Shagsalot

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wow, lol, this thread has really turned into a place to completely open up and share!!! i feel a healing coming!!! please, stop it already, lol....
 
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