Extreme Yellowing Early In Flower and fan leaves wilting/clawing! Help guys!

jdubwetherell1988

jdubwetherell1988

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Strain: Bagseed (og kush i believe correct me if im wrong)
Soil: custom organic mix
Container: 5 gallon bucket (OUTDOOR GROW)
Veg: 60-75 days
Training: topping, then low stressed trained, and lollipopped
Nutrient: Organic teas/kelp/ect every 3 days, 1/2-1 gallon teas/ect. Water : everyday about 1 gallon, except on feed days
My hypothesis diagnosis of the problem: ROOT BOUND & HIGH HEAT/HUMIDTY


Ok, so I know fan leaves are suppose to yellow towards mid to end flower, but this plant has been yellowing fan leaves since like day 10 of flower and its progressing more and more everyday, in the past week ive pulled off about 40 leaves and more are yellowing or they basically just fell off when theyve gone completely yellow( they look perfectly heatly just all yellow instead of green) I give her plenty of nitrogen and nutrients though. And the fan leaves are wilting a lttle and leaf tips sort of clawing not much like ive seen pictures of, I just want to know whats wrong so i can fix this asap, all the buds and bud leaves are green and healthy also. I think its root bound since its been in that 5 gallon bucket since like may 1st,2014. And i low stress trained and topped. So if i didnt lst and top it would probably be a 5-6 foot plant, which would mean that it has outgrown the 5 gallon bucket by 1 foot, hence 1 gallon per footof growth. So that why I think its root bound because root bound symptoms usually or can be leave yellowing of all fan leaves, leaf wilting, clawing,ect. I just need a second, third, or 4th opinion. If you need any other information to determine whats wrong ask me
 
jdubwetherell1988

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Ok you may say, oh thats not much yellowing but let me tell you thats after i pulled the completely yellow leaves off and they detatched very loosely and easily just by a slight tug, today was about 15 (fan leaves or single fan leaves) yesterday the same about3-4 days before that the same and so on so ive lost alot of fan leaves, ive tried nitrogen boost and everything so it cant be nitrogen can it? Like i said by the other signs on the plant I still belive its root bound before anitrogen def.
 
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travisw

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I've never heard of someone watering everyday.

Stunted slow growth with yellowing leaves is a symptom of over watering. The other sign to observe during this condition is leaf fall. If you have yellowing leaves and old leaves as well as new leaves are falling at the same accelerated rate you are providing too much water

edit: I see you getting all hysterical down there. You asked for an opinion and I gave you one. If you think your under watering by all means water that motherfucker some more. You clearly know what your doing.
 
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jdubwetherell1988

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i cant be over watering because its too damn hot outside like 95-101 humdity 50-99% and the pot is always light when i pick it up to water 1 gallon a day only on hot day!?!? and like 1/2 gallon on cooler days?!? and your assuming OVERWATERING???? it cant be dude
 
jdubwetherell1988

jdubwetherell1988

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if anything UNDERWATERING! but i check to make sure it stays heavy and full of water through out the day and the next day its light again
 
jdubwetherell1988

jdubwetherell1988

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travisw said:
I've never heard of someone watering everyday.

Stunted slow growth with yellowing leaves is a symptom of over watering. The other sign to observe during this condition is leaf fall. If you have yellowing leaves and old leaves as well as new leaves are falling at the same accelerated rate you are providing too much water
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and ive been water the same way since veg and that was 3 months long NO YELLOW LEAVES AT ALL, ALL THE WAY THROUGH VEG.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Some plants yellow very early genetically. It should not root bound at this stage, but as travisw pointed out, too much water. PH is always a possibility though, even over nutes. No food for while, light water with PH adjustment, and take it from there. Also, the rule of thumb is 1 gal per month of growth. Forget the height bull shit. I have 6' foot plants outdoors now, in 3 gal pots that are kicking. You'll do fine, as they look pretty good. Peace
 
greasemonkeymann

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am i the only one that sees a nitrogen deficiency?
But that being said, if you feed every three days, it's probably not that, BUT what are you feeding them?
Some abandon nitrogen during flowering (not a wise move)
Try a light top dressing of nitrogen bat guano, or a tea with EWC, and a SPECK of blood meal.
I don't like blood meal personally but it does have a lot of water soluble nitrogen.
you said you give plenty of nitrogen and ferts, so i'm not sure.
It LOOKS like a nitrogen issue. considering you said they get super dry in one day, you may be indeed root-bound.
Can't say for sure without being there
feeding every three days is pretty frequent...
 
greenlikemoney

greenlikemoney

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Its lack of Nitrogen. Your plants need N until the final weeks of flower. She is cannabilizing herself searching for Nitrogen. Fix this quick before all your fan leaves are gone.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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i say root bound. Beginning of may is a long time for that to be in the same soil
it's still early, i say transplant. And since you said it's been like that from the beginning i'd also say your organic mix is off, somehow. Use a commercial soil, and see if it responds. I'd bet that it would.
 
jdubwetherell1988

jdubwetherell1988

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im ALL ORGANIC using ALSKAN FISH FETILIZER 5-1-1 (2TSP/GALLON), ALASKA KELP PLANT FOOD .24-0-.60(2TSP/GALLON) EPSOM SALT (1 TBSP/GALLON) AND UNSULFURED MOLASSES(1 TBSP/GALLON)

IVE BEEN USING THIS SAME RECIPE FOR THE PAST 4 MONTH AND ITS FINE. RAINWATER ONLY
FEED-WATER-WATER
AND MIND YOU THAT 5 GALLON BUCKET DRIES UP DAILY
 
jdubwetherell1988

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IVE GAVE HER EXTRA 5-1-1 ALASKA FISH FERTILIZER THE OTHER DAY, LAST NIGHT I TOPPED DRESSED WITH, ESPOMA BIO TONE 3-4-4 WITH MYCORRIZAHE (3 TBSP) HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP
 
jdubwetherell1988

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HOW MUCH MORE ALASKA FISH FERTILZER SHOULD I GIVE HER? MORE THAN ONE TBSP/GALLON?

SHOULD I FEED EVERY OTHER DAY, INSTEAD OF EVERY 3 DAYS????????
 
jdubwetherell1988

jdubwetherell1988

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greasemonkeymann said:
i say root bound. Beginning of may is a long time for that to be in the same soil
it's still early, i say transplant. And since you said it's been like that from the beginning i'd also say your organic mix is off, somehow. Use a commercial soil, and see if it responds. I'd bet that it would.
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I SAID SINCE DAY 10 OF FLOWER IT STARTED YELLOWING, MY MIX WAS FINE ALL THE WAY THROUGH VEG NO DEFECINCY OR YELLOW LEAVES AT ALL, DUDE
 
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