ttystikk
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It was a great feeling to get rid of my Magnum XXXL Ochos, same reason.
I built a room with eight of them in two rows. Wasteful... I swore I'd rip the fuckers out as soon as I had a better way... that was years ago now.
Can someone list some benefits of vertical growing?
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I built a room with eight of them in two rows. Wasteful... I swore I'd rip the fuckers out as soon as I had a better way... that was years ago now.
zep_lover
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i run 2 600's in a 4 foot by 4 foot by 6 foot high cabinet.i run a 8 inch fan filter directly above the 2 600's.i have 4 plants.one tied to each wall.depending on strain and if any problems occur,i have pulled from as little as 16 to as high as 45 oz from the 4 plants.i usually only run 1 light at 600 and 1 at 75 % or both at 75%.i still have not found the strain i am looking for but to stay medically compliant i can only test one or 2 at a time.my best crops doing horizontal was around 16oz from 1 600 with alot more work .i would use multiple lights instead of 1 thousand watter .i like the lack of shading due to multiple light sources.vert requires some getting used to cutting off alot of your plant so everything you do have gets great light.if you dont trim enough you will still get good results but alot of small buds.and or larf.the nice part is even the larf is usually pretty damn good!
good uv goggles are a necessity when growing vert .it will damage your eyes if you dont wear them when working around the bulbs.it is almost better to turn them or at least one off when working on your plants.
good uv goggles are a necessity when growing vert .it will damage your eyes if you dont wear them when working around the bulbs.it is almost better to turn them or at least one off when working on your plants.
Flagg420
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Would luv a pic of ur setup! You got a cage around the bulbs? how ya got them mounted?
When winter ends I plan to switch over to vert growing n currently run a pair of 600's, been playing with a few idea in my mind, but want ot keep temps low enough without bringing the tubes back into the mix...
Cannasutraorganics
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The Ocho is the best hood around if you know how to use them.
Cannasutraorganics
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Increased yield? For noobs maybe. Easier to cool? Can't use DE lights.
ttystikk
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It's not as good as no hood, hands down.
ttystikk
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Right. Noobs and Colorado commercial grow warehouses, with the money to buy ANYTHING, COST NO OBJECT if it grows plants better/faster.
Should probably stick with what you know, cuz you don't know lighting.
Cannasutraorganics
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Are you pulling 2.5-4+ pounds a light??? My plants grow even all the way up. You just don't know enough about how a light works and what you can do to fix the natural imperfections. In a 10x10 room with four Ocho hoods modified by me, running a good yielder like Amsterdam Chronic, Tangerine Dream, Mazar Scherife, OG Lemon or a hundred other strains, I'll pull 12-18 pounds from that room. Your just too confused by your own stupidity to notice. Let's see some pics big talk..... And for a noob, your funny....
Cannasutraorganics
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One more thing big talk, most Colorado growers use Gavati lights. So quit acting like you know something about lights....
zep_lover
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i do not have a cage around the lights.the lights are mounted on a bar one pointing up that is about 2 inches higher then the height of my honeywell fan.the other just under my carbon filter.the base of the bar is screwed to the floor.think of a 1 inch wide 1/4 inch thick steel bar with a simple bracket attached at around 13 inches from the floor and another around 54 inches from the floor with two holes in each bracket to screw the bulb socket to .the base is just a 10 inch piece ot sthe same bar with a few holes drilled in it to screw it to the floor.
will try and get a pic when i get back home in a few days.no cage is needed due to keeping the plants tied to the wall.i try for 1 layer only so nothing gets close to the lights.when i did a plain old donut with 6 to 8 plants around tied to individual racks i did need a cage.i do have a bit of trouble keeping my day night temps under ten degrees difference due to all the radient heat if running both bulbs at full power.i only need to run 800 watts to hit 50 watts per sq foot.i do not have heat trouble running at any combo of power settings except both at 100 %.
jigfresh
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yeah well my dick is bigger than yours, so there.
and for fucks sake, if you're going to call someone stupid, you might want to learn how to use the English language properly. It makes you look right stupid yourself.
ttystikk
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All my friends can confirm that I'm a lousy actor, so I just stick to the facts.
GrowHydro2193
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optimizes space i would say
legallyflying
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Four pounds from one thousand watt bulb.... Uh huh..
We typically talk about dried wieght. And we don't weigh out stalks and pots.
We typically talk about dried wieght. And we don't weigh out stalks and pots.
You see a lot of these guys are now tying these plants to the wall in a small spaces. Notice how much cleaner and uniform the growing space is, no string holding up big collars, each part of the plant that is exposed to the light has the same size uniform colars, and is the same distant from the light. Im not a vert grower but the implication of this new technique is obvious to an experienced grower. Although one bloke is having a little whinge about getting burnt from exposed bulbs, it must be a god send to be able to walk straight into the centre of your crop when the light is off or moved and start tending to your babies. As trees grow the back parts of your grow cabinet becomes less and less accessible, the access a vertical grow offers if done properly must be quite a luxury, same applies for accessing pots/reservoirs/fans. Spend 10 miuntes in a tent in summer trying to figure out your ducting from a cooltube and youll soon see its advantages....
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one of the biggest benefits of vert growing for me is the ability to run multiple strains at the same without as big of a hit on the yield as with a horizontal garden. That being said, i do feel that vert setups can be harder to manage than say, a horizontal sog that is accesible on all sides. And although the canopy on a vert has more surface area, this alone does not guarentee more yield. The light intensity is much less at the canopy with vert, but you also have more uniformity of light with vert. So its a trade off that can in the right hands, pay off with increased yield. IME However, i don't believe there is a 'better' way as good growers can yield well in both styles of canopy management.
I didn't mean to imply that vert grows have TOO low of a light level intensity. I'm alluding to the fact that with a reflector, you have MORE light intensity at a given distance from a bulb. With a reflector, you are concentrating more light into a smaller canopy (albeit your losing some of that intensity to the reflector as well.) This is not to say that one way is better, i personally have had both shitty and good grows with both styles. There's a trade off when you increase the canopy size (whether it be a horizontal or vertical grow). Whether or not the trade off is worth it is in the hands of the grower. Some people kill it with more watts/ft of canopy and others kill it with more less watts/ft of canopy.
In summation, vertical growing no doubt gets you more canopy area AND more efficiency from the bulb than when using a reflector. However, ime, its up to the skills of the grower to leverage this fact for more yields.. hope that makes sense.