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GroErr

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I had to test out the light last night. I couldn't wait any longer. I have more work to do before the room is complete, as you can see, but it fits perfect in the spot I had picked out for flowering. I tossed two White Widow under it to see how it compares to the measly 250W HPS they have been flowering under. No comparison. These bulbs rock, the whiteness is intense and you can actually see color to the leaves. Watching the light fire up is cool too. The pics show a pink looking hue, but in person it is pure neutral white. Looks like I'm starting to get a slight deficiency. They are about two weeks from finishing.
Nice, when I got the first 315w I thought the same thing, wholly brightness! Can't imagine what 2 of them together put out, awesome you got them going, can't leave a new toy in the box :) Your defs could be just start of fading, if they're only a couple of weeks away I don't worry about the odd leaf def/discoloration as long as overall health is good.

Noticed that hood is quite a bit thinner, minimal overhead, very nice. If you can manage heat you might be able to use one of those in a shorter tent, like even 5ft if you kept the plants short, like a 4x4 even 5x5 scrog.
 

GroErr

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Just posted my first update in the 12/12 from seed party cup comp. Trying some modified party cups, to see if fabric liners will build a solid root ball like the fabric pots do. Punched some holes around the cups to allow for air pruning. They'll be flowered in the tray I put in the main flower room. Interested to see the outcome of this, loose a little space from the liner but if the root ball builds like it does in regular fabric pots, these could build enough roots to support a 1 oz plant? I call them SAC's (Smart Air Cups) ;)

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GroErr

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I did that with coffee containers. I think I needed more holes! I did learn that it was easier to dunk the pots in water than it was to pour water in from the top.
I'm thinking they may end up drying out quick, cups themselves dry out fast but with all the holes they may end up drying out even faster. The liners could trap/hold some moisture in there or act like a wick system. Depending on how many make it I may setup my drip system and just give them a bit of drip, then soak them well every 2 or 3 days. Was considering putting them into a hempy-style container, then sit the cup inside that container so they can suck up water from it but I think I'll stick to top drip/feed for this first run and see how they fare. First thing I'm focusing on is getting them to pop and stay healthy until they build some roots. Last round they burnt out quick under the CMH so I'm keeping them on the floor with a clear plastic cup as a dome until they're an inch or two. One has popped through and another has popped and shed the shell already, fingers crossed ;)
 

GroErr

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Main flower room update. Pulled the P2 Harlequin, it was done by around 43, yesterday was Day 46. Slowed down uptake, looking ripe, cloudy and the odd amber. Last run for this pheno, keeping the best (P1) for this strain. Will give it a haircut and chop today…

Harlequin P2 3 gal:
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Next will be pheno 1 of the Harlequin, it should be ready next Saturday, around 52-53 days. The 2x DIY 3 gal plants I’m not sure but looking like the PPP x Blueberry is fading quick, 7 – 9 days or so. Will let that JTR x Blueberry go as long as possible, looks like it has 10 days left. Smells awesome, can’t wait to try this one, it’s the Blueberry Creamsicle pheno .

JTR x Blueberry P2 3 gal @46 days:
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The 5 gal plants are fattening up, they’re at Day 35/5 weeks. Nice colas/buds developed, some of the mains are going to be huge on those crosses. JTR has several nice size colas and frosting up. The JTR x Blueberry 5 gal pheno 1 is frosting up very nicely. It's smelling stronger, definite sweet blueberry in there and the lemon background is still there, just sweeter :)

Group shots:
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JTR x Blueberry P1 @ 35 days:
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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

GroErr

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Harlequin Pheno 2, rough trim and hung. This is the fast pheno and the buds aren't as dense as pheno 1. Not a bad size plant for a 3gal pot but not expecting more than 40-45g's dry. Will likely run this whole plant for hash, pheno 1 is reserved for personal :).
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GroErr

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Big JTR fan here...though my only bean was a male, I have
grown many crosses involving it.

Thanks for sharing,

JD
Cheers Javadog, I like my JTR :) So far it looks like it mates well with blueberry (male), this large pheno was strong from the start. Will be interesting to see the bud structure, smell, taste, and weight differences between the cross and the clone from the JTR mother growing in the 5 gal behind it.
 

Javadog

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I managed to get a few crumbs of pollen from my JTR male
and made a very small number of what I am calling Jack The Cleaner,
as the cross was with Jack's Cleaner 2.

The first popped bean is in a peat puck. We will see.

Good luck!

JD
 

GroErr

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Some shots of the main flower room last night showing the remaining (3x 3gal/3x 5gal) plants. Also had a closer look at the 3gal JTR x Blueberry and PPP x Blueberry plants, Both are closer than I thought, the JTR x Blueberry is looking pretty well done so maybe by end of the week. The PPP x Blueberry can go another week or so which would take it to 8 weeks. Looks like I'll be pulling the remaining 3gal Harlequin and JTR x Blueberry by the end of the week :)

Day 47 for the 3 gal, Day 36 for the 5 gal:
Some nice colas in there but that massive main almost centre belongs to the 5gal PPP x Blueberry with about 3 weeks to go :bigjoint:

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JTR x Blueberry Day 47, not much left to mature:
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PPP x Blueberry Day 47, a few more cycles left:

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GroErr

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Cam overview of the ops last night, full house all-around:

Top-Left: Veg Cabinet is wall-to-wall, 2x Blue Pyramids that are growing wild and itchy to flower, did some additional training to see if I can get the yield up a bit as this dank strain is staying in my line up for a while. 1x THC Bomb, likely last run sitting in between them, shorted but has lots of potential tops ready to go. These should go into the main flower room by the end of the weekend. There are 2x small clones in 1gal just holding until I get the 3 larger plants into the flower room.

Top-Right: Veg Tent. 4x Blue Dream's in 3gal will be up-potted to 5gal once I clear the veg cabinet and run ~2 weeks before flowering them. 2x DIY PPP x Blueberry phenos which will flower in the tent in approx. 3 weeks. 1x JTR x Blueberry Pheno 1, and 1x JTR clone in a cup as well. I'll move the smaller plants into the veg cabinet and grow out the 4x Blue Dream's for a couple of weeks until they're ready to flower in 3 weeks or so.

Bottom-Right: 2x2 LED Tent with 3x THC Bomb and 3x Blue Dream clones in 1gal pots. Coming along nicely at week 5, 3 weeks or so to go. Looking like they could produce close to a zip each.

Bottom-Left: Main flower room. The 3x 3gal plants are just about ready, likely be pulling them by end of the weekend. The larger 5gal's will go another 3 weeks or so. Those 5gal's are filling in great and drinking like they're in a desert, 2.5 days and they're dry, fattening up nicely, should be a good haul there between the 2x DIY's and a huge JTR. Looks like I'll be going with a single DIY phenol for the party cups, hope it's a male., the other 2 aren't doing much of anything and I scrapped the remaining 2x DIY's as they didn't produce big enough tails. Go figure, have popped every single DIY seed the last couple of months and 1 of 5 viables for the party cup comp, that one viable DIY will likely be the male I've been looking for ;)

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

Mohican

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What light are you running in the main flower room? It looks so bright!

The JTRxBB looks like a monster! Great job!
 

GroErr

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What light are you running in the main flower room? It looks so bright!

The JTRxBB looks like a monster! Great job!
Hey mo, thanks, really liking the 5gal pheno 1 JTR x Blueberry, it's developed 4 large main colas in each corner, then filled in with smaller colas in between, nice :)
The 3gal one in the cam pic isn't bad either for a 3gal, nice smell in there now. Even better, looks like pheno 2 in the 3gal has maintained JTR's flowering time which under the CMH tends to be in the 52-54 day range. The larger pheno 1 is not looking or smelling much different :)


The main room runs 2x LEC Sun Systems 315w CMH rigs, you can see part of the lower one in the cam pic, and you're right, I should be wearing sunglasses when I go in there!
 

GroErr

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Went to water the 3gal's last night and Harlequin Pheno 1 is done, soil was still fairly wet while the other 2 remaining plants were dry. Pulled it into the dark room and will give it a haircut/chop today. This is an almost perfect pheno for this strain, looks like medium production with training, nice tight/dense buds, almost as dense as the Blue Pyramid, out of this world unique smell/taste, powerful but functional head stone and muscle relaxing stone.

Some final shots before the chop @51 cycles of 12/12:
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The 2 remaining 3gal DIY's were dry but not bone dry like they had been between waterings. Just gave them a good watering again, expecting both to be still a bit wet Monday and ready to pull. The JTR x Blueberry smells fantastic, sweet blueberry creamsicle, the larger 5gal coming up has taken on that smell as it's matured, both phenos are pretty well identical in look, bud structure and smell now. Difference is that the 5gal which is 11 days behind the 3gal is twice the size, they were both grown/vegged from seed at the same time so the 5gal pheno 1 is the keeper :)

The PPP x Blueberry 3gal pheno 2 is just whatever, smells much like the PPP which I didn't like much, a little sweeter but nothing special. But the 5gal pheno has now changed to more of a blueberry/sweet smell and could be a candidate fem for further breeding. Still trying to get a male of both of these DIY strains but all including a couple of PPP x Blueberry in the veg tent have turned out to be fems.

JTR x Blueberry Pheno 2 @day 51, almost ready:
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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

GroErr

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Harlequin Pheno 1, haircut and chop. Not bad, just trimmed and weighed pheno 2 with the fluffy buds and smaller colas and got 37g total (will post all the weigh-ins once they're all done). This one should run in the mid 60's as it's bigger than P2 and the buds are much more dense :D
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Javadog

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So, that is a CMH bulb. I love the spectrum, for the eyes.

LOL. I started of vegging in my tent with a CMH bulb, switching
to an HPS bulb after I flipped the light schedule. I could take
such photos! :0)

Thanks for sharing.

JD
 

GroErr

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So, that is a CMH bulb. I love the spectrum, for the eyes.

LOL. I started of vegging in my tent with a CMH bulb, switching
to an HPS bulb after I flipped the light schedule. I could take
such photos! :0)

Thanks for sharing.

JD
Cheers Javadog, they are easier for pics and on the eyes, grow some nice bud too ;)
 

GroErr

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Walk through the op with some current pics...

Veg cabinet has 2x Blue Pyramid and 1x THC Bomb in 5gal ready to flower. A small harlequin clone in a 1gl waiting for some space. These 5gal's should go into the flower room Monday or Tuesday night. The remaining 2x 3gal from the first 3x3 are done, will likely pull them tomorrow. The 2x Blue Pyramid's got some more training this round, should increase the yield, a few more colas on these.
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Veg Tent is packed now. 4x Blue dream's with the training rings will be up-potted to 5gal Tuesday when there's space opened up in the veg cabinet. There's 3x 2gal that I may do in the tent and up-potted the JTR clone to a 1gal today. Cloned all the vegging plants today to start the next couple of rounds.
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2x2 LED Tent with 3x 1gal Blue Dream and 3x 1gal THC Bomb. Day 40, about 2 weeks to go, these are both 54-56 day phenos. Nice amount of buds set, just starting to fatten up now, plenty of time. Tent is wall to wall buds :D
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Flower room is coming along nicely, lots of harvests coming up over the next 2 weeks. 3gal plants are done, was busy today with other things but will pull them tomorrow night. Then reload the 3x 5gal's in the veg cabinet to start flowering. 5gal plants are about 12-14 days and fattening up, all 3 are huge, should be a nice haul there :)
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Shot of the 5gal JTR, some nice colas, it's about 38" from the soil line...
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JTR x Blueberry pheno 2, Day 53, it's done...
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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
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