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akhiymjames
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I think so. It's best for clones and fem seeds so you don't have to go through that hassle of having to remove males through all the netting. It's giving me a headache just picturing it in my mind
greatbranch
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If you have successfully sexed a clone from the plant being trained or something, then you can, but it's horrible to have to cut down and toss something to which you've dedicated so much effort when it gets a couple weeks into flowering.
BDOGKush
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I think so. It's best for clones and fem seeds so you don't have to go through that hassle of having to remove males through all the netting. It's giving me a headache just picturing it in my mind
Thanks guys, I've only done one SCRoG and that was with a clone. A lot of my best seeds are regulars but thinking about how much time it would take to find a female is a little discouraging. Even if I waited on dropping the screen until they showed sex, I'd be wasting a lot of veg time that I should be weaving my plant into the screen.
So I guess it's either don't run a SCRoG this next grow or pop a fem seed.
Gquebed
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That's what I do.
Just veg in a 1 gal pot the girls show themselves. (about 35 - 40 days). Meanwhile try to keep em short. Then transplant the girls (which will have a great root ball by then) and put the screen over them. No real hassle...
greatbranch
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It CAN be done, but my focus recently has been to eliminate those large windows of setback and uncertainty. I am not picking at your answer, but I guess it truly depends on what one considers to be a hassle. I veg in a TINY space (about 2 cubic feet) and have 2 flowering tents. I dry in a tent that's half the size of the flowering ones, and only recently rigged it out with a light to specifically eliminate a 2-4 week up-sizing transplant lag. Also, for most ScrOGgers, space is precious, particularly if you have to adhere to plant counts and have some top performers you'd like to keep around. You must be one of the greedy ones
. I did all of the cloning and sexing for a little while with regular seeds, but I have so much ventilation going in such a small area, it is not worth the risk toying with males around MY red light district. In my experience, Murphy's GREEN law, is an even more punitive bitch. 40 days is too long a courting period and too many resources if you might be springing balls on me. But some people LIKE balls...lol. Those breeder folk are obsessed.
Gquebed
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I dont disagree with anything you said. I do have extra space...that could be utilized better, but not quite enough for a mom or veg room.It CAN be done, but my focus recently has been to eliminate those large windows of setback and uncertainty. I am not picking at your answer, but I guess it truly depends on what one considers to be a hassle. I veg in a TINY space (about 2 cubic feet) and have 2 flowering tents. I dry in a tent that's half the size of the flowering ones, and only recently rigged it out with a light to specifically eliminate a 2-4 week up-sizing transplant lag. Also, for most ScrOGgers, space is precious, particularly if you have to adhere to plant counts and have some top performers you'd like to keep around. You must be one of the greedy ones
Im just saying you dont have to yank males out of the screen if you sex before you put the screen in. Doing it this way...you do have to start the screen a bit higher and you do lose some lateral growth, bud sites, but not enough to be a huge deal...
BDOGKush
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I came up with a game plan.
I snipped a couple of clones off my Bodhi Headtrip, if I can get those to root I'll SCRoG that next, if not I have a tray full of Medijuana clones.
Once I transplant the clones out of the tray I'll pop the next strain I want to grow. By then my current plants will be done flowering and I can move the clones into the flower tent and veg the seeds in a cabinet.
When those are done I'll have found a female or two from the new strain and can move it into the flower tent. If I time it right I won't have as much down time.
I snipped a couple of clones off my Bodhi Headtrip, if I can get those to root I'll SCRoG that next, if not I have a tray full of Medijuana clones.
Once I transplant the clones out of the tray I'll pop the next strain I want to grow. By then my current plants will be done flowering and I can move the clones into the flower tent and veg the seeds in a cabinet.
When those are done I'll have found a female or two from the new strain and can move it into the flower tent. If I time it right I won't have as much down time.
greatbranch
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I have the same problem as far as strains. I have one that I keep cloning just to keep around too. It's nice to have a back-up for the occasional hermie surprise when it happens as well. There's always something to plug right in.
I don't think we ever have enough space.
Gquebed
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Thats right. I want space for several moms and a nursery and a drying room. And if i had all that i would want a bigger moms room...lol
Just want to pick your brains really.
This is my first SCROG, things are going great, even better than I had hoped and I can see this is going to have good results.
My main concern is that I am growing two plants, both were topped fairly early and that has helped me get a nice big spread and the net is being filled nicely. The only kind of problem is that the middle of the plant is looking rather empty, because all of the mains have been forces out, not a major issue, but the centre of the plants is also the centre of the light, so I feel like I should have some growth going on there as that is potentially where the biggest buds will be (as that is where there is the most light)
Currently I'm using the opposite plant to grow into this space, but would it be wise to work some stems back into the centre so they can get more light, kind of an out and then back in again approach?
I could do with a diagram really, but hopefully that makes sense. I would put a pic up, but it doesnt reallt show the probkem as i have filled that space with leaf, I'm a week into stretch, so things are growing quickly!
This is my first SCROG, things are going great, even better than I had hoped and I can see this is going to have good results.
My main concern is that I am growing two plants, both were topped fairly early and that has helped me get a nice big spread and the net is being filled nicely. The only kind of problem is that the middle of the plant is looking rather empty, because all of the mains have been forces out, not a major issue, but the centre of the plants is also the centre of the light, so I feel like I should have some growth going on there as that is potentially where the biggest buds will be (as that is where there is the most light)
Currently I'm using the opposite plant to grow into this space, but would it be wise to work some stems back into the centre so they can get more light, kind of an out and then back in again approach?
I could do with a diagram really, but hopefully that makes sense. I would put a pic up, but it doesnt reallt show the probkem as i have filled that space with leaf, I'm a week into stretch, so things are growing quickly!
SnotNazi
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According to this tutorial - http://www.growweedeasy.com/scrog-tutorial -
" Question: What would happen if I FIM'ed rather than topped at the beginning stages of growth (In terms of bud production)?
Answer: Not much difference. You would get 2 more tops but I wouldn't do it on purpose. If you top the plant, as described in this tutorial, the middle of the plant will fill the extra space with all those minor arms coming up."
- according to this tutorial he says that area will fill in.....if you topped to get there. I'm just starting my second grow and I'm going to try a scrog setup, anyway, the link has a ton of useful info. Check it out.
Clink78
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Well everyone, this grow is done!
Harvested today, 65 days @12/12, 61 days since first pistils.
Smells unfuckingbelievable. My girl could smell it from the street, doors and windows shut. I'd read from other grows that the diesel comes through at the very end and that's exactly what happened.
This is my first scrog and I have to say I'm really impressed with this technique. It was awesome to watch this plant grow and most importantly, really really fun. I've yet to sample Sage n'Sour but I can't see how I could be disappointed. She is so deliciously dank, I'm almost stone just looking at her!
Thanks for the thumbs up throughout, you guys and gals made it that more fun
JD_85
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i found it. it took me a while to re-find
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/experimental-2kw-g13-4-x-8-scrog.33431/page-15
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/experimental-2kw-g13-4-x-8-scrog.33431/page-15
Midwest Weedist
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Hey everyone! First scrogging under my new 600 watt. I've got at least 5 different strains that I can think off off top of my head; goji og, Scotts og, Ghost og, B52, Yunnan, and a few more. (almost) All are in organic super soil in rols notill planters. Pardon the mag deficiency, it's been taken care of. 