Getting to One gram pre watt

ttystikk

ttystikk

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Trippyness said:
Will do, will be making a full grow journal on it.
This is a larger scale grow.
Will be pulling 6+ LBS.
Using a professionally build RDWC bu Alien Hydroponics.
The whole 9 yards.
Will be constantly getting new genetics to test until i find the best genetics for what I want.
large yeild and great phenotypes as well as great terpine taste and frost.
Im just finishing up a 32 plant Aero mini Scrog of white widow.
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Cool. I pull that now, and more.

RDWC system of my own design, completely modular;

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Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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Budley Doright said:
Really! 9/10 times more yield? Wow, I've heard like 30% more running co2 but not 900% more thats just crazy talk (like the skittles commercial) Just kidding, i have no ideal how much more you would yield. I agree the gram per watt thing is really a poor measurement. Gram per KWH would be better!!!
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You completely misunderstood. I was saying 9 out of 10 times a
sealed 4k room will yield more than a fresh air one. Not that it will yield 9 times more.
Budley Doright said:
Cough, choke, cough, insert stunned face here. Veg time has nothing to do with yield?
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Lol. Sea of Green not familiar to you? I veg plants for 7 days max. Pull 1.5 units per 600w in each 3600 watt room.
 
Greenhouse;save

Greenhouse;save

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Yea that's fine for sog .......but.......to say veg time does not effect yield is just not true......even with SOG if you vegged anouther week to ten days .....you would defo see a difference in yield.......sog will be my next project and I'd like some help from peeps like yourself carolina if you don't mind.......I've got a decent setup with 4 rooms running(cloning room included 4+2 1/2 but until now organic soil and nuits has been the way I've been growing.I have been pulling a kilo from 8 plants which I am very happy with but it just seems to take forever so sog is a thing I've been interested in for a while.........I've got a bigger space waiting 24ft+18ft I can only imagine sog would make best use of this space......
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Carolina Dream'n said:
You completely misunderstood. I was saying 9 out of 10 times a
sealed 4k room will yield more than a fresh air one. Not that it will yield 9 times more.

Lol. Sea of Green not familiar to you? I veg plants for 7 days max. Pull 1.5 units per 600w in each 3600 watt room.
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Why yes I did misunderstand sorry my bad. But yup veg time does effect yield, no way around that one. Perhaps your wording it wrong but two plants side by one three weeks veg, one three months and I ask which is gonna be bigger?
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Enigmatic Ways said:
Yea you're right, it is highly debatable for people who don't take the time to research and learn, if you suck at growing you're going to suck regardless if you have additives or not. But if you have everything in your grow room dialed in using additives will definitely help.
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What are these additives that speak of? Let the debate begin.
 
Tone5500

Tone5500

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Carolina Dream'n said:
You completely misunderstood. I was saying 9 out of 10 times a
sealed 4k room will yield more than a fresh air one. Not that it will yield 9 times more.

Lol. Sea of Green not familiar to you? I veg plants for 7 days max. Pull 1.5 units per 600w in each 3600 watt room.
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In your SOG how many plants do you run for your 1.5 ???
 
Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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Budley Doright said:
Why yes I did misunderstand sorry my bad. But yup veg time does effect yield, no way around that one. Perhaps your wording it wrong but two plants side by one three weeks veg, one three months and I ask which is gonna be bigger?
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Once again we are having a misunderstanding. I know that a plant vegged for three monthes will yield more. What I was saying is if your one plant you vegged for 3 monthes filled the same canopy (sq feet) as 16 of mine that I vegged for one week will yield the same. As long as the canopy space is even filled between the two different scenarios they will yield the same. Equal canopy size=equal yields.

Why spend so long getting the canopy full, other than low plant counts?
 
Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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Greenhouse;save said:
Yea that's fine for sog .......but.......to say veg time does not effect yield is just not true......even with SOG if you vegged anouther week to ten days .....you would defo see a difference in yield.......sog will be my next project and I'd like some help from peeps like yourself carolina if you don't mind.......I've got a decent setup with 4 rooms running(cloning room included 4+2 1/2 but until now organic soil and nuits has been the way I've been growing.I have been pulling a kilo from 8 plants which I am very happy with but it just seems to take forever so sog is a thing I've been interested in for a while.........I've got a bigger space waiting 24ft+18ft I can only imagine sog would make best use of this space......
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Vegging another week is only going to yeild more if your room has space for it. If you veg too long and pack the same number in your actually goin to yield less.

SOG is king for quick turn around and yields.
 
Tone5500

Tone5500

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Carolina Dream'n said:
Once again we are having a misunderstanding. I know that a plant vegged for three monthes will yield more. What I was saying is if your one plant you vegged for 3 monthes filled the same canopy (sq feet) as 16 of mine that I vegged for one week will yield the same. As long as the canopy space is even filled between the two different scenarios they will yield the same. Equal canopy size=equal yields.

Why spend so long getting the canopy full, other than low plant counts?
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This is exactly why I want to accomplish
 
Tone5500

Tone5500

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churchhaze said:
Getting to 1g/W is mostly a matter of canopy management and timing. It's not hard to get 1g/W even without high yielding strains, or CO2.

Let the canopy fill out and make sure it's even and you'll likely get 1g/W... unless you're using fluorescent (or some crappy chinese led unit).
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Yea my last few grows were just a little training but tree style if that makes any sense this go around I'm going to put up a net like a. Scrog and train during the strech . Trying to cut vegg time down to one week after cuttings pop roots if that mean going to a sog style I might entertain that as well .. But would a SOG be best suited for DWC , would rather keep doing that easiest for me . Did the areo soil never flood and drain buy DWC is just easiest for me .
 
Tone5500

Tone5500

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churchhaze said:
Getting to 1g/W is mostly a matter of canopy management and timing. It's not hard to get 1g/W even without high yielding strains, or CO2.

Let the canopy fill out and make sure it's even and you'll likely get 1g/W... unless you're using fluorescent (or some crappy chinese led unit).
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By filling out canopey is this something I can do during the first few weeks of flower or does it need to be done during vegg .. I don't want to sound like a complete noob been only growing a few years. But just trying to set a new ceiling ..
 
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churchhaze

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Tone5500 said:
By filling out canopey is this something I can do during the first few weeks of flower or does it need to be done during vegg .. I don't want to sound like a complete noob been only growing a few years. But just trying to set a new ceiling ..
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As long as the canopy is filled out after the stretch period is finished. How much more it grows during the stretch depends on the strain/pheno you're growing.
 
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