Micro PC stealth grow

[Tamzi]

last week things got a bit hairy and i had too cull a 2 week old 5" high plant grow under sun in window, rozzers everywhere i got spooked and cut her down. now i want a more safe way too grow. i have an idea of a micro grow case and need advice and ideas.

micro pc case: 14"L-14"D-7"W and 400w psu
14w tropical glo hagen tube 12"
125w envirolite 6500k
12cm case fan 65.5cm max @ 16db
stealth front pannels/lcd/power/hdd lighting
mylar / or base white inside

everything except drive bay been removed this will hold a third 2700k clf for seedling 12/12 while main grows under the fluro and enviro. do you think i will have enough light source for a single plant in 12/12 from seedling and a seedling starting a 12/12 both straight into flower from first seed showing.
i have full control over fan and temp with readout from 3x sensor on lcd display, idea is a pc that looks too be in server mode but infact is a stealth micro grow. i want too stagger the grow so i have i plant finishing flower and the other in mid flower. temps would hopefuly be between 75F - 85F

what are your ideas and opinions please

 

[ChronicRedEye]

so you want a 1 plant stealth and the other growing in a closet or something?

 

[Tamzi]

here goes,

i been smoking for a while for medical reasons. i ended up with buying a bad batch and found the bud was spiked with glass etching crystals. i had dabbled in growing the odd seed from my bag of smoke. the last got culled when i had a swarm of police hanging round the area. now i want a more safer place too grow. i have always grow seeds from my bud i buy it is definatly not indica, so i thought maybe a small lowryder strain would work in the small area i have too work with.

two seeds both stealth. seed one will be started right away under 12/12 flowering light. seed two will be started a month/six weeks later in same case as seed one that should be well into flowering if my lights are good enough. im kinda totaly new too growing, been too holand a couple of times and now want too grow my own decent bud, with the knowing it has not been tampered with.

i wondered if i could get away with a 12 inch 8w tropical tube (blue/red) a 125w flowering envirolite and a single CFL (GE, FLE20TBX/827 ECO) could this light output flower two plants from seed but staggered growing.

thank you

Tamzi

 

[superskunkxnl]

yeah fuckin overkill 50w per square ft you wanna run like 300w in less than a ft? fuck my pc case (given to a friend now cos of yield (1oz harvest) was scrog under 2 27w cfls lined with mylar and light proofed temps are a major concern especially if u plan on runnin that enviro in there i currently run a 150 hps in a fridge and thats plenty of light a 250w in a pc case we aint makin ovens man lol

 

[Tamzi]

temp wont be a problem dual 12cm pc fans at full rpm will shift 60.5cfm, and the 8cm fan in powersuply will also vent out. i didnt expect 50w/ft from this setup sounds like i will have a mini quasar running in the case.

what strain would you guys sugest, with space at a shortage i was thinking mini lowryders and have a sea of green.

as for nuets. i wanted to go the organic route, i have a large forrest with good leaf mould and rich soil. i was going too get a few litre and soak it in some rain water and cloth as a strainer and use this organic liquid as feed. do you think this is ok. im broke now and on a realy low budget as all my seeds have not germinated 8 seeds from my last supply of street bud. now it is back too the painkillers more frequently


Tamzi

 

[superskunkxnl]

i feel for ya im stuck on the fuckin codiene till my next crop cos this shite im smokin dont relieve shit, an yeah lowryder is the strain 4 pc cases you can keep the lights on longer with it too but if you havnt got money 4 beans do a scrog, all you gotta do is cut some chicken mesh to size of your case and about 1-2" above the pots set it in and train around it when she grows through tuck her back under and so forth twist ties are good or zip ties to keep in place but give room for the stem to fatten up, itll increase your yield too cos all the sites will be equidistant from your lights. If you got ur temps right then go for it, too much light? no such thing its the heat we gotta watch, peace n pot
skunk

 

[Tamzi]

just been given another two fluro balasts for tropical tanks. this now ups my lighting too 1x 14w ballast 2x 20w ballast and a 125w envirolite ( flower 6500)

what is best fluro tubes i should buy from my local marine store

A. marine glo ( atinic blue)

B. flora glo ( looks too peak in red at 600nm)

C. sun glow/power glo ( high blue peak low red )

all tubes are made by hagen and give graph of light color but i dont understand them. also what color should seeds be. the ones i got from my bag was a dull off white/cream but still a tortoise shell look too them all 8 failed too show. need advice on what too look for in a good seed.

thank you for help and advice

Tamzi

 

[Tamzi]

need some help guys. here goes why i need help.

7 more seeds i had given. all was very smallish and a kinda of white color. been 5 days now and nothing has shown. i took life into my own hands and dug up the seeds. each seed has rotted and gone bad. no sign of them ever having germinated at all. they have very mild speckles on them and very small in size, looks likethe runts of the litter. No i havent overwatered them or flooded them out, soil is MC and been fully flushed 4 times and left too drain over 40hr, then once planted they was given enough too make the soil damp too the feel but not sodding wet.

now i am going too purchase my seeds from alibongo.co.uk, its is my local head store. now i need to know what too buy, how too tell a good seed from a weak seed. i used drchronics site and most plants are medium in size nothing i found would be small enough too grow in my case. now my case is small (micro sized) and i have a very small grow area (1 square foot max). there is no way too set a SOG screen but i could tie down using sticky hooks too hold stringing in place and other points of fixing inside case. i am needing a very small plant with a huge yield ( kinda). but must be cheap seeds. also could i get away without using PH testers, nuets and all the sience stuff. i want as basic as can be. using what is around me for growing eg: countryside, lots of cow crap, leaf mould etc etc.

i have exhausted my contacts trying too find decent clones , and have failed so far searching the whole of eastern UK for clones.

what is the best max yield/ micro plant..... Autoflower ? does this mean i cannot 12/12 from seedling too flower. would lowryder autoflowering be good for a first time grower ?. i have never ever gotten a plant past 2 months old. and hate feeding the criminal underground with my cash for there somewhat lowgrade product.

all imput from you pro growers would be helpful and much needed so i can get this box running and hopefuly save me a fortune on painkillers and doctors trips

Tamzi

 

[superskunkxnl]

you want nice dark seeds wih a good volcano ditch where they where attached to the plant

 

[Tamzi]

Quickly an update and need Advice, not getting anywhere in the general section.

the case is going too be somewhat packed, with a large CFL and these fish lights. and i have found out the max wattage from my tank fluro's is 8w.

i have a small halogen desk lamp, you know the type that is adjustable, has springs (angle poise lamp). well i found some 11w/50w 3000k warm white halogen type CFL : Megaman BR0707I/141227 Energy Saving Reflector 7 watt Par16 GU10 warmwhite 3000k. Offers an astonishing 15,000 hours average life! 7 watts of light is the energy saving equivalent of 30 watts! Energy Rating Afrom lamps2udirect.com

so what do you guys think. 6X 11w 3000k halogen fitting bulbs with spot reflectors. was going too place 4 lights above plants and a light on each side, mylar coated inside too max out relecting light ?.

also about the spectrum at 3000k. i looked so hard my eyes are bleeding trying too find a 2700k. will 3000k be enough too do a 12/12 from seed on lowryder/lowryder II.

should i shoe horn in a couple of the 8w fluro's. i very unsure and need advice 8w sounds like a joke and now i pushed for lighting source's. i chose the above bulbs as i have 6 halogen light fittings ( angle poise lights) with there reflectors and thought these would be ideal and beter than messing around with fish tank lighting.

Tamzi

 

[superskunkxnl]

halogen aint no good sorry too much heat and the wrong spectrum theyd grow but its a waste of time better off with your 8w jobbys lol

 

[Tamzi]

halogen aint no good sorry too much heat and the wrong spectrum theyd grow but its a waste of time better off with your 8w jobbys lol

no buddy these are CFL in a halogen case

idea is you can get either 12v or house mains running, i have 6 light units that run from 12 adaptor via wall. i was thinking of putting in the 11w halogen style CFL but they only have 3000k i wondered it that is close enough too 2700k flowering range. would my lowryder/dwarf/AK hybrids flower ok.

Lampbase:GU10 CFL
Average Life:15,000 hours
Volts:240
Watts: 11 which is equivalent to 60 watts on a traditional non energy saving light bulb
Colour:Warm White
Description: Megaman GU10 3000k Warm White. Top quality.
Length: 76 mm
Diameter: 50 mm
BR0711i
Energy Rating: A

what you think superskunk could this be my way forward and dump the 8w fluro idea. 6x them above is like 360w total ?


Tamzi

 

[superskunkxnl]

6 is 66w actual, yeah? and there cfl? then they should be sweet.
3000k should be good people go right through with metal halides and pull a nice crop and your alot closer to ideal so yeah go for it!

 

[Tamzi]

6 is 66w actual, yeah? and there cfl? then they should be sweet.
3000k should be good people go right through with metal halides and pull a nice crop and your alot closer to ideal so yeah go for it!

lovely superskunk thats just what i needed too hear, the grow shall now begin. i picked up some dwarf today, the store had no LR2 or any dwarf AK.

not going too germ them yet i need more stuffs in my case and some sort of ghetto filtration. going too use the area the drive bays sat in too make an incase carbon scrubber and use pc fan filters, want a kinda low key smell.

Tamzi

 

[xochi]

i honestly recommend abandoning the halogen quest, it's high red and yellow yes, but its too hot, 100 watt hps system is cheap from sun systems, that and a standard fluorescent system are all anyone needs to grow good results.

 

[Tamzi]

it is a halogen style CFL you can see the CFL better in this pic. so waht you think could a pc case be decked in these 11w eqivilent too a 60w incadesant. there will be in all 6x 3000k 11w bulbs

Tamzi

 

[superskunkxnl]

cool do they come in higher wattage.
and can u remove the shield? (clear stuff)

 

[Tamzi]

hi superskunk.

been looking around and have only found them upto 11w max an eqivelent of 60w incandesant in both 3000k and 6500k.

am still hunting for some higher power ones something like 15w -20w

Tamzi

 

[superskunkxnl]

a few will do the trick but might be cheaper using normal cfls

 

[Tamzi]

been totaly changed skunk.

the pc case idea is fine for say 1 micro palmtree bud. i now have upgraded everything too bigger.

now i have a 15" wide 19" high and 15" depth. has a SOG screen fitted inside 8 inch above pots. have well enough space for a single plant but i have idea of sexing two fems and having both in same small cab under SOG. lighting consists of 1 enviro 200w flower and 3x 15w 2700 fluro tubes

one 6 inch clip fan, this will breeze under canpoy for good air and halt mould and any other problems.

1 6inch outlet fan ducted into a icream tub filled with active carbon and active carbon sheet. then expelled into room. idea is too have my gamer pc buff out the sound of the filtering system so will be very close too the grow cab.

germination will be done in the warm area where air is filtered, temp with light running in cab with 3 inch square passive vent is 80f, without lights running im getting 65F.

200w is going too have a homebuilt reflector and on chains for moving above canopy. and fluros will be fixed in place just as basic side lighting.

hindu kush is the bean already in germination. two are being soil born and two placed on wet towels sealed in a tin with plastic cover too keep a micro climate inside. is now 36hrs on soil and no show. 18hr on towel germination and no show.

Tamzi