3 million lives ruined by ISIS

Flaming Pie said:
Have you guys been watching Uncle Buck's meltdown on panheads thread? He is in full support of ISIS.

http://rollitup.org/t/gone-to-see-isis-shitheads-in-action.877396/page-3#post-11793106

He posted this after panhead brought his wifes family from a ISIS threatened country into the US. Saving their lives possible.

But buck stands behind em. 100% Because Americans suck. So Isis should be able to kill whoever they want. Even their own neighbors. Cause their gay, or suspected gay, or a sorceror, or didnt fast during ramadan.
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sensationalism and hysteria like this is what made it so easy for them to kill the jews in germany and poland.

get a grip.
 
NewtoMJ said:
Would you support the Kurds ands recognize the territory they are fighting for as a state?
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As a state? I don't even think a majority of them are fighting for that. They back each other up and Kurds in Turkey (PKK) do seem to want independence from Turkey but they only act in unison to help defend each other.
 
UncleBuck said:
but you have stated that you are a republican.
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So that makes me an evil bush loving monster?

I can't care for women and children losing their homes and lives because ISIS has made it their mission to kill all that oppose them?

You paint an R over my head and assume I think it is ok for Americans to cause civilian casualties.
 
I post pictures of human suffering and you guys think I am some evil fuck who doesnt see the error of humans and the constant cycle of war?

I am mourning the victims of this travesty and wondering why you all don't give a fuck. I guess if it don't affect your wallet, it doesn't matter right?

Wrong.
 
Flaming Pie said:
I post pictures of human suffering and you guys think I am some evil fuck who doesnt see the error of humans and the constant cycle of war?

I am mourning the victims of this travesty and wondering why you all don't give a fuck. I guess if it don't affect your wallet, it doesn't matter right?

Wrong.
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I'm more concerned about human suffering going on in the U.S.
 
abandonconflict said:
As a state? I don't even think a majority of them are fighting for that. They back each other up and Kurds in Turkey (PKK) do seem to want independence from Turkey but they only act in unison to help defend each other.
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I met a few Kurds from Iraq, it was explained to me that a lot of them feel they would be more economically prosperous if recognized as a state.
 
UncleBuck said:
sensationalism and hysteria like this is what made it so easy for them to kill the jews in germany and poland.

get a grip.
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This has been going on for some time and I have yet to understand your position. This statement is really jarring. So, the Nazis ginned up some propaganda about a helpless minority and sold it hard to an already antisemitic majority. Then they went on a rampage of historic proportions. ISIS is beheading people and murdering or enslaving citizens in towns that they captured if they don't hew to their particular line of Islam. Yet you compare talk about the outrages by ISIS as being like the Nazis. I don't get it.

Flaming Pie said:
Well I am sorry, but there is no international politics forum in RIU. So I guess you are stuck with me.
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Here is what I don't understand in your line or reasoning. What do you think your outrage would get you if you had your druthers? Are we to pour troops and re-occupy Iraq in order to stop the menace of ISIS? Then how to we get out? I don't think the US military belongs anywhere near that area. Or are you bringing this up to raise the issue that more humanitarian aid is needed?
 
Fogdog said:
This has been going on for some time and I have yet to understand your position. This statement is really jarring. So, the Nazis ginned up some propaganda about a helpless minority and sold it hard to an already antisemitic majority. Then they went on a rampage of historic proportions. ISIS is beheading people and murdering or enslaving citizens in towns that they captured if they don't hew to their particular line of Islam. Yet you compare talk about the outrages by ISIS as being like the Nazis. I don't get it.


Here is what I don't understand in your line or reasoning. What do you think your outrage would get you if you had your druthers? Are we to pour troops and re-occupy Iraq in order to stop the menace of ISIS? Then how to we get out? I don't think the US military belongs anywhere near that area. Or are you bringing this up to raise the issue that more humanitarian aid is needed?
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I just feel it is a situation people should be aware of and discussing.

It is a troublesome thought to me that all these families are fleeing in fear.

I would like to have a discussion on what people think is a good course of action. Or what would be a false solution.
 
Flaming Pie said:
So that makes me an evil bush loving monster?

I can't care for women and children losing their homes and lives because ISIS has made it their mission to kill all that oppose them?

You paint an R over my head and assume I think it is ok for Americans to cause civilian casualties.
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first of all, you haven't even established who is doing what to whom or why they are doing it.

second, you have offered little or no condemnation for the fact that we went over there, pointlessly and out of choice, and killed half a million of them, bulldozed their bodies into piles, and burned the piles when burying them in shallow mass graves was too inconvenint or costly.

third, why not head on over there and join the fight?

don't just sit here repeating whatever propaganda you have heard, go over there and get firsthand experience with the people who are fighting. do your part and put your money where your mouth is.
 
bearkat42 said:
That's the problem. We don't get out. The United States will be there 50 years from now.
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That was kind of my point. The US just can't win by sending troops in numbers into that area nor should it. Any short term gains will be lost once the population turns on the occupying troops. A very good movie is available on Netflix -- Intimate Enemies -- its about the French war in Algeria but it really is about how vicious, conflicted and confused a guerrilla war is. Our military doesn't belong anywhere near there.
 
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