LSD and strange behavior?

[high|hgih]

So I'm mainly posting this because I'm not sure what's going on in my girlfriends head when she takes LSD. It doesn't happen every time, but she's, on multiple occasions, been convinced that everyone is playing a huge elaborate game or joke on her.

She will say things like, "I get it, this is all a game. You know."
"I get it."
"I know what you're doing."

I've seen this same thing happen to a few people and always just dismissed it as developing schizophrenia or something. But I think maybe those odd trips out, are just bad trips. I've eaten ten strips each with her. Ayahuasca a few times.. She is somewhat new to psychedelia but I wouldn't say, inexperienced. But during an acid trip, she can't distinguish it ae being just the drug?
The first time she took a good dose and got faced on some needlepoint, she was convinced ww were all pimping her out. Ridiculous, but at the time I could understand where she was getting that. We were at a party with our friends, there was this really head strong dope dealer there and some extremely sexy movie on the tv lol.
I was able to calm her down though because once I heard, "I get it, you guys are playing a trick on me." I just thought, "oh no.." And took her outside, attempting to explain it to her.

then, about a week ago, it was just her and i on a hike for our anniversary. She thought I was playing a game on her then too trying to seduce her in the woods and get us lost on purpose. Granted we ended up getting lost on accident so that didn't really help my case lol
but she went on this game complex that time too. That time I was too high to even talk properly at all so I was just kind of flabbergasted.
now she is thinking about it a lot, reading a book that references to the whole thing, and had a dream about it. End result being she finally figured it out and I was cheating on her.

my questions about this are: Who else has had this happen? How do I go about making her trips more comforting? Especially when I'm too high to explain things properly and even lose it a bit, myself?

regardless, both of us are just gonna do more ayahuasca in its place due to some recent changes and lack of variety of psychedelics.
but for next time what's some advice and who has had this happen to themselves?
I looked up LSD and the game on google and nothing pops up. I fond reports on erowid that are similar.. But I've never had this happen to me or even thought something like that on LSD.

 

[high|hgih]

sorry about the typos this phone is a dumbass

 

[hells canyon genetics]

Some people cant distinguish rational thoughts from drug-induced thoughts ive done shit tons of hallucinogens with an uncountable number of people i can always just think to myself ya im just high no big deal but others have been a handful just like what your talking about i dont ever remember 2 people triping out about the same thing its usually somthing different idk why this happens hallucinations can bring out suppressed emotions that pepole try real hard to hide

 

[droopy107]

Let me get this straight? LSD (to the 10th power) + girlfriend / (book+dream) = you're a cheater when she's sober? And you want do do more psychedelics with her? That's either really brave or really foolish. Maybe both my friend!

 

[high|hgih]

lol I've never cheated on her, never would. When she's sober she doesn't think like that besides that was just a dream.
I do want to keep tripping with her, we do all the time. Its only been a couple of times this has happened and she is confused as to why too. Which is why she's reading up on it. I feel like it has to be some sort of suppressed stuff. And I just need to figure out how to make it more comfortable.
besides, it is only LSD that does this to her. Doing mushrooms, aya... And usually acid with her is always a blast. Its just been two times out of maybe 50 that she's lost it like that. And I feel like maybe I'm making weird signals or something and its messing with some sort of memory complex or something.. I have no clue

not in an immediate hurry to take acid again with her honestly, it kinda freaks me out when she starts thinking in circles or whatever is happening

 

[AZgreenthumb]

lol I've never cheated on her, never would. When she's sober she doesn't think like that besides that was just a dream.
I do want to keep tripping with her, we do all the time. Its only been a couple of times this has happened and she is confused as to why too. Which is why she's reading up on it. I feel like it has to be some sort of suppressed stuff. And I just need to figure out how to make it more comfortable.
besides, it is only LSD that does this to her. Doing mushrooms, aya... And usually acid with her is always a blast. Its just been two times out of maybe 50 that she's lost it like that. And I feel like maybe I'm making weird signals or something and its messing with some sort of memory complex or something.. I have no clue

not in an immediate hurry to take acid again with her honestly, it kinda freaks me out when she starts thinking in circles or whatever is happening

If it's only happened two times I would not worry about it when you take acid there is always going to be the possibility of a bad trip but if you take time and plan out a proper set and setting bad trips can be avoided here is a really good site with tons of info about set and setting and about LSD in general http://www.tripsafe.org

 

[HeatlessBBQ]

this has happened to me and still kind of does happen....
because of an LSD trip.

i am not sure if i am here to tell You that Your girlfriend is hallucinating...
or that what She is believing in Her reality is true...

 

[DutchKillsRambo]

I'd def echo the sentiment of cooling down the tripping with her for a bit, but I also don't think it's all that serious.

I ate some WoW the other weekend (thank you my friend that shit was amazing) with a buddy I've known since 4th grade and he got real weird. He basically tried to proposition me for gay sex, coming from a guy that I've personally seen bang 4 women, and his numbers have to be in the high 50's.

My point is people are strange, and psychedelics can make strange people do even stranger things.

If you two drink, nothing beats an old fashioned drunken journey to Pound Town. Treat her right and bruise your own hips. That has helped me out many times before. Whiskey Dick has hurt it too, but you can always learn to push rope the right way.

I should admit I've only been with one woman past a year though.

Alternatively, and possibly more relevant, bitches be crazy.

 

[droopy107]

I'd def echo the sentiment of cooling down the tripping with her for a bit, but I also don't think it's all that serious.

I ate some WoW the other weekend (thank you my friend that shit was amazing) with a buddy I've known since 4th grade and he got real weird. He basically tried to proposition me for gay sex, coming from a guy that I've personally seen bang 4 women, and his numbers have to be in the high 50's.

My point is people are strange, and psychedelics can make strange people do even stranger things.

If you two drink, nothing beats an old fashioned drunken journey to Pound Town. Treat her right and bruise your own hips. That has helped me out many times before. Whiskey Dick has hurt it too, but you can always learn to push rope the right way.

I should admit I've only been with one woman past a year though.

Alternatively, and possibly more relevant, bitches be crazy.

Push Rope! Lol, nice!

 

[DaSprout]

Ssshhhiiiiittt.

 

[MrEDuck]

The possibility that it is some issue in her subconscious being brought up by the drugs is certainly one explanation but the rarity makes me wonder.

 

[high|hgih]

The rarity may certainly be due to previous benzo intake, LSD tolerance, alcohol and setting.
setting though.. We even went to the zoo one time. That was awkward and funny but no 'games'. Even despite the fact that we saw two people we knew there which made me have to pull together haha

And at the zoo that day we had no benzo or alcohol.

I feel like I cause it somehow with weird sentences.. I don't know.. The older I get, it seems the less composed I can keep myself with LSD. But its more than likely a personal problem lol I just prefer aya, small amounts of mushrooms and mescaline these days..
but this is exactly why I feel like maybe I need to compose myself better.. Can't even think thoughts like that on acid or ill do the opposite xD don't get me wrong. I have always loved acid, but its the only one that can make me totally, socially confused. Especially with a girlfriend that reacts to it that way.

she says that she does indeed have deep subconscious memories. And i know she does. Her mother was abusive and a crack head. She wasn't a crack baby, but according to her father, the pregnancies changed her into a crack head where she ended up stealing $5k from her father and smoking it all up.
of course he left her and blah blah(sorry I smoked some ice randomly).

Anyways, she admits that she does have memories that would veer her during an acid trip because of what she's read about it. She always hated acid before we dated, now she's a trooper! Lol but we only want to do aya really just in general, everytime I do it, I firmly believe that its all I need. I'm sure she actually thinks that too.

my buddies got some fluff laying around though that he wants to share, so next time may be soon.. I just think it has to do with a combination of me acting weird due to my current thoughts with LSD and her memories..

grr... I'm gonna be up all night.. Horrible thread to reference to that on lol

 

[DaSprout]

I used to have a female friend that I knew since kindergarten. When we became teenagers. We ran in the same pack. We always tripped together. We were really close. At times. Too close. Every once in a while, she would exhibit behavior similar to what you have been stating. Luckily for me. It was all aimed, or at least a majority of it, was aimed towards her then bf. Since we were a group that hung out together. We began to realized the signs and steadily developed coping mechanisms that would help her get through it. Granted, at first we would all rally together and try to convince her with the usual platitudes. But, in the end. We developed our own little "fix-its" and let her bf take care of it. This way we could just bug out in peace.

Wasn't LSD originally developed to be an as an "aide" in psychological treatment?

How about this?

Next time your girl drifts off into some sort of post traumatic relapse, or something there of. How about you develop a new mutually beneficial schema that could sort things out? Especially since it seems that you already know the underlying threads.

 

[Nick Harkins]

I've dropped LSD 3 times now and each time was a wonderful experience.

 

[HeatlessBBQ]

if You are wise, You will watch this.

 

[DaSprout]

if You are wise, You will watch this.

Thank you Heatless. I can't even begin to speak to others about anything close to what may be considered to be shamanistic. Or anything outside of the popular "norms" as far as beliefs or practices. Even when I can show them scientific evidence that shows that these beliefs have merit. Even when they have even been added to modern medical/psychological endeavors. Whenever I would just whisper of these subjects. People act like a machine that has encountered something that goes against their programming. They themselves become the schizophrenics.

 

[radrolley]

So I'm mainly posting this because I'm not sure what's going on in my girlfriends head when she takes LSD. It doesn't happen every time, but she's, on multiple occasions, been convinced that everyone is playing a huge elaborate game or joke on her.

She will say things like, "I get it, this is all a game. You know."
"I get it."
"I know what you're doing."

I've seen this same thing happen to a few people and always just dismissed it as developing schizophrenia or something. But I think maybe those odd trips out, are just bad trips. I've eaten ten strips each with her. Ayahuasca a few times.. She is somewhat new to psychedelia but I wouldn't say, inexperienced. But during an acid trip, she can't distinguish it ae being just the drug?
The first time she took a good dose and got faced on some needlepoint, she was convinced ww were all pimping her out. Ridiculous, but at the time I could understand where she was getting that. We were at a party with our friends, there was this really head strong dope dealer there and some extremely sexy movie on the tv lol.
I was able to calm her down though because once I heard, "I get it, you guys are playing a trick on me." I just thought, "oh no.." And took her outside, attempting to explain it to her.

then, about a week ago, it was just her and i on a hike for our anniversary. She thought I was playing a game on her then too trying to seduce her in the woods and get us lost on purpose. Granted we ended up getting lost on accident so that didn't really help my case lol
but she went on this game complex that time too. That time I was too high to even talk properly at all so I was just kind of flabbergasted.
now she is thinking about it a lot, reading a book that references to the whole thing, and had a dream about it. End result being she finally figured it out and I was cheating on her.

my questions about this are: Who else has had this happen? How do I go about making her trips more comforting? Especially when I'm too high to explain things properly and even lose it a bit, myself?

regardless, both of us are just gonna do more ayahuasca in its place due to some recent changes and lack of variety of psychedelics.
but for next time what's some advice and who has had this happen to themselves?
I looked up LSD and the game on google and nothing pops up. I fond reports on erowid that are similar.. But I've never had this happen to me or even thought something like that on LSD.

psychedelics can be unpredictable. she probably shouldnt use them if she is getting what seems like paranoid delusions. people should take drugs to feel good, not feel worse. some ppl just cannot handle it and shouldnt do it. hell my friend one time was rolling around on the ground freaking out. half hour later he was fine.

 

[abalonehx]

Damn, you know how chicks are crazy already, right?
Don't let her do acid....bitch needs to calm down = .

 

[DMTER]

Well I've been doing psychedelics for lets say a minute and I still get this...its like slipping into a confusion and mixed with paranoia...I only get it with higher doses and with people around...if folk aren't around I'm good...I mean I'll get so high I can't distinguish my friend from the fire nor could I name what they are but I still see them through a fractalled lense...and when I'm at that level thats when those fun thoughts come on...you can't do anything about it as far as I know its her trip man you can't take her bad trip its hers and something deep down needs to be worked out or just lower doses bro

 

[DankDru]

I agree on the lower doses. Some of us just aren't meant to take high doses of sid. One of those people is me. Is she on medication? If its too often of dosing I can see that as being a factor.