HELPP!! Nitrogen Deficiency In Super Soil

SPLFreak808

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Do you pour anything in your soil besides water? Do you think it could be a possible magnesium def? If your pouring in nitrogen, does the problem get worse? Did you notice any bugs in the soil? Did you water the soil while it was cooking?
 

bankcee

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Do you pour anything in your soil besides water? Do you think it could be a possible magnesium def? If your pouring in nitrogen, does the problem get worse? Did you notice any bugs in the soil? Did you water the soil while it was cooking?
nothing but good old h20. I had bugs in soil like real early stages like seedling stage. these have been vegging for a little over 2 months. good that be it. my ammendments are running low cause it's been eating so much of it. I was thinking it could have been cal/mag and I have some cal/mag liquid my homie gave me. should I try that? even though it's a super soil grow..?

and no like it was barely damp. while cooking. I kept it damp though.
 

bankcee

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Something is off there. Shouldn't be. My rain water grows my garden veggies just fine.


That is normally right. Soil buffers its self. Maybe something in the tap water.

Are you letting the soil dry out?
I've let it dry out pretty dry like once or twice I was away for a little while longer than I thought and missed watering day by 1 day. both times. why? what could that cause? microbes to die off?
 

whitebb2727

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Bugs? You sure you don't have fungus gnats or root aphids. It doesn't look like n deficiency to me. It looks like a pH problem or something in the water. Does you water district use chlorine or chloramine? Idk. Something is off and I don't think k it is nitrogen. I may be wrong.
 

HookahsGarden

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Bugs? You sure you don't have fungus gnats or root aphids. It doesn't look like n deficiency to me. It looks like a pH problem or something in the water. Does you water district use chlorine or chloramine? Idk. Something is off and I don't think k it is nitrogen. I may be wrong.
That is not a pH problem. Not trying to argue, just want to be clear that I'm confident he has already diagnosed his own problem correctly.
He is correct. It IS a Nitrogen deficiency.
Classic symptoms.
If it was pH, more than nitrogen would be locked out.

Once you topdress and then water normally when it needs it , you will see improvement. You can stop a N deficiency and reverse SOME of the color loss, in time, all of it.
I'm here for you.
Peace
 

HookahsGarden

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I've let it dry out pretty dry like once or twice I was away for a little while longer than I thought and missed watering day by 1 day. both times. why? what could that cause? microbes to die off?
No. Your ok. You can easily add some microbes. With a products like GreatWhite or OGBiowar, or make a tea with worm castings, ph it, then water it in on top of topdressed soil.

Are you in flower?
If not , you can transplant into larger pot of fresh soil too.

Sh1t!
I just saw the answer! You've been vegging for two months! That's too long of a veg for a standard super soil my friend. It's still a N deficiency, but now you know why. Your soil is depleted big time.
Good luck.
 

whitebb2727

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He shouldn't be n
That is not a pH problem. Not trying to argue, just want to be clear that I'm confident he has already diagnosed his own problem correctly.
He is correct. It IS a Nitrogen deficiency.
Classic symptoms.
If it was pH, more than nitrogen would be locked out.

Once you topdress and then water normally when it needs it , you will see improvement. You can stop a N deficiency and reverse SOME of the color loss, in time, all of it.
I'm here for you.
Peace
He shouldn't be n deficient. The color looks off to be n. It may be n but something else is causing it. Like pH out of range. If he has never pulled his water report or tested it could be the source for a lot of problems.

I had plants look like that. I fed and fed and fed. In the end when I quit using my tap water it cleared up. I don't think k it was pH in my case. Just to many chemicals.
 

HookahsGarden

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He shouldn't be n

He shouldn't be n deficient. The color looks off to be n. It may be n but something else is causing it. Like pH out of range. If he has never pulled his water report or tested it could be the source for a lot of problems.

I had plants look like that. I fed and fed and fed. In the end when I quit using my tap water it cleared up. I don't think k it was pH in my case. Just to many chemicals.
He doesn't use chemical nutes. His veg time too long. He has no signs of ph issues.

I've been growing in soil mixes for a long time I know what is going on.

Sigh
 

whitebb2727

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He doesn't use chemical nutes. His veg time too long. He has no signs of ph issues.

I've been growing in soil mixes for a long time I know what is going on.

Sigh
Me to. I mean tap water has all kinds of nasty stuff in it. I also grow organic and grow my own food.

Top dressing and and giving n won't hurt.

I'm just saying something else is off. I can't quit put my finger on it. I doubted it was pH. Soil buffers and should be alright with the addition of lime.
 

whitebb2727

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Also peat gets acidic with age. Top dress and continue. Take a serious look at your water. Test the ppms. Pull a water report and see what they use in it.
 

SPLFreak808

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Thats odd. Its like magnesium interveinal yellowing but I've never seen it like that before. @bankcee if the yellowing doesn't stop after adding nitrogen it might very well be soil issues. If you add too much P that will also fuck shit up
 

HookahsGarden

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It looks like pH out of sack somehow. I always let water sit out. I used to. Now I catch rain water.
Your pretty clueless about pH issues obviously.
Nothing about it looks like a pH issue.

If you don't know what your talking about, stop giving guesses and gut feeling advice.....

Master your own skills before you brain fuck a new grower.
 

bankcee

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Thats odd. Its like magnesium interveinal yellowing but I've never seen it like that before. @bankcee if the yellowing doesn't stop after adding nitrogen it might very well be soil issues. If you add too much P that will also fuck shit up
I did add extra cups of fish bone meal. isn't that long term P? you think that could have did it?
 

SPLFreak808

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I did add extra cups of fish bone meal. isn't that long term P? you think that could have did it?
Im not gonna tell you thats the problem, but yes it can cause secondary and trace deficiencies, I've done it before as bone meal is strong shit.
 
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HookahsGarden

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This is a great chart, one of the best.

Take a good look.303_0-02249700-1433803524_cannabisposter4000.jpg

You will see that you simply have a N deficiency. No other problems. I have explained to you exactly why in my earlier post. If you overthink it while listening to other people make vague guesses you risk being pointed on the wrong direction.

I wish you would listen to me. I'm only online to help. But I also wish you the best. If you need anything feel free to pm me.

Peace
 

bankcee

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No. Your ok. You can easily add some microbes. With a products like GreatWhite or OGBiowar, or make a tea with worm castings, ph it, then water it in on top of topdressed soil.

Are you in flower?
If not , you can transplant into larger pot of fresh soil too.

Sh1t!
I just saw the answer! You've been vegging for two months! That's too long of a veg for a standard super soil my friend. It's still a N deficiency, but now you know why. Your soil is depleted big time.
Good luck.

so would it be best to start letting them bud like today after I top dress? switch to 12/12 today along with my top dress? wouldnt it be overkill for 8 weeks of flower? or nah? how many inches? and another question I have a super soil cooking right now and it's about 3 weeks in can I use that for the top dress? or is it not cooked long enough?
 

bankcee

Well-Known Member
This is a great chart, one of the best.

Take a good look.View attachment 3518741

You will see that you simply have a N deficiency. No other problems. I have explained to you exactly why in my earlier post. If you overthink it while listening to other people make vague guesses you risk being pointed on the wrong direction.

I wish you would listen to me. I'm only online to help. But I also wish you the best. If you need anything feel free to pm me.

Peace
I am brother. I'm gonna top dress like right now but I asked you something I'm unsure about lol
 

HookahsGarden

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so would it be best to start letting them bud like today after I top dress? switch to 12/12 today along with my top dress? wouldnt it be overkill for 8 weeks of flower? or nah? how many inches? and another question I have a super soil cooking right now and it's about 3 weeks in can I use that for the top dress? or is it not cooked long enough?
The plant will need it. It's not overkill. Maybe 2-3 inches of soil, at least.
Can you transplant into bigger pot? If so, just transplant now. If not, topdress. Use the soil you have, it's going to work good.
 
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