First Grow just started :D

underD

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So I finally got all my equipment and nutes. planted these babies on the 15th and I think they look good. I still haven't hooked up my carbon filter to the exhaust point but the pressure from the intake fan is taking out the air nicely for now. so excited I'm checking up on them every half hour I know I should be patient but holy shit I just wanna lick them :D. TIPS and advice needed!! 125W cfl for now 400W hps for flowering. no nutes first ten days. is it okay to use regular drinking water or do I have to get the RO water? Temperature is between 23 and 29 degrees celsius, oh and on the four with no chopsticks are OG Kush and the ones with are BlueDream or thats what I've been told. I hope they are. another thing is that I'm worried that i might run into space issues when they're grown cause the tent is pretty small and I'm growing 7 plants. also I have no idea what the humidity is like in the room yet but will soon, does it really matter early on?

 
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justugh

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So I finally got all my equipment and nutes. planted these babies on the 15th and I think they look good. I still haven't hooked up my carbon filter to the exhaust point but the pressure from the intake fan is taking out the air nicely for now. so excited I'm checking up on them every half hour I know I should be patient but holy shit I just wanna lick them :D. TIPS and advice needed!! 125W cfl for now 400W hps for flowering. no nutes first ten days. is it okay to use regular drinking water or do I have to get the RO water? Temperature is between 23 and 29 degrees celsius, oh and on the four with no chopsticks are OG Kush and the ones with are BlueDream or thats what I've been told. I hope they are. another thing is that I'm worried that i might run into space issues when they're grown cause the tent is pretty small and I'm growing 7 plants. also I have no idea what the humidity is like in the room yet but will soon, does it really matter early on?

let me help u

that looks to be tin foil around the light ......remove it the foil reflects heat u are turning the lamp into a heat lamp focusing the ir heat and the acutally heat from the lamp down wards

2nd is u need to plant those plugs into a a planter ........i personally plant it in a 7 gallon planter and let it grow into that u can do 5 gallons or 3 gallons i stick with 3 gallon since u have 6 plants
2a the roots grow out and allow the plant to really grow
2b the cups u have in now is crazy as the watering of it is tiny ....a 3 gallon planter holds just shy of 1/2 gallon water( water and roots are directly linked to amount and denseness )

3rd thing ......move the planters to the bottom of the tent
3a co2 is a heavy gas ......for plants light hours co2 is power (like our oxygen)
3b at the bottom of the tent is the coolest air u have u want the plants root zone in the upper 50s mid 60s later on and leaves from getting to hot now
3c the light should be hung allowing u to move it up and down as the plant needs and grows .......moving the plants to the light is much more work

4th thing your venting
4a i see u have the fan inside the tent .......u should move it to outside the tent as it will collect heat from moving the hot air out and running itself ....have ducting going to the middle part of the top of the tent with the fan mounted outside the tent (if u need a carbon filter for smell control this is how u would do it ......mount the filter at the top of the tent in the middle ...hook ducting to it and run the ducting out the tent tho one of the vent ports it has ...hook that to the fan so it is sucking then run ducting from the fan to the ejection point where u dump the air outside your air path for the tent (ensuring fresh co2 at the highest lvls u can get naturally)
4b your fan the idea is right the execution is wrong
get a old/new clean paint can with 3/4 of paint still in it .....get a pine fur strip from the hardware store ( 1 inch 8 foot is 98 cents) cut it to about 5 feet take the paint can place it flat on the floor take the 5 foot pine strip stand it up next to paint can make sure the wood is touching the floor pressed straightly and cleanly against the can start wrapping the wood to the can with duct tape .....20/30 wraps all the way up and down the can .........u just made a fan stand ......order yourself one of those 6 inch clip on fans and use the stand in the corner of the tent clip the fan to about 2 inches above bud lvl and let it run (done right it covers whole with that 90 degree movement it does side to side ).........to be safe take a drill with 1/4 inch bit and put a ole in the wood about 3/4 way up then run some mason line tho the hold and wrap around the pole in the tent make a knot so the loop of string is acting a safety to keep the stand/fan falling over from tipping weight (plants might get bigger later simple safety measure make sure does not fall over)
4c ........if u want a hood then u should think about using a cooltube for the 400w HPS it is designed to move massive amounts of air over the bulb to keep it from letting out to much heat into the area(bad news is they only come in 6 inch dia or 8 inch so if that is a 4 inch fan u will need a reducer from 6inch to 4 inch 2 of them one for front one for back ......the front one hooks on to the carbon scrubber
 
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justugh

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when i say planters i mean these
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CBJ55GW
if u are thinking about using those i see in the pic .....do not as it will be hard for u to fix any issues u have later

the 3 gallon pots are fabric so the pots breath .......in return this makes the roots air prune (they do not ball up and choke out ) ....the other major thing is over watering is basically gone as it can only retain so much water the rest leaks out all over (3 gallons just shy of half gallon by like a cup water) .....finally if the plant messes up or something is out of wack in the soil u can flush it easy as the water runs out everywhere (hugely important for a new grower to have a understanding of flushing and PHing the soil as this is the first step any repairing a sick plant )

plus it has handles making transporting around much easier and safer .....i used the same 12 bags now for 4 years so rotting and all that is not even a factor they are reuseable like all the others u see
 
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justugh

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once u get them into a planter with real water retention and all

1 your starting them on rooting feed(full power on this) and some low power grow (as in 1/4 of what u normally use in a gallon of water) ....oh almost all feed plans and instructions on how to use the feeds are based on 1 gallon of water u are mixing it into (some are liters just know 4 liters in gallon except USA 3.69 liters ) but we still act like it is 4
2nd thing is watering amount and how
2a something starting off like this u only need to give water every 3 days or so
2b the amount u give it is based on the stage it is in .....u slowly increase the amount of water to the max retention amount by the end of late grow.........start off with cup and half to 2 cups of water (mason jar pint)
2c how to water ....do not directly pour it on the center/plug part u want to water from the outside in so u encourage the roots to grow out looking for the water

RO water is fine as long as u are mixing in what has been stripped away make sure u have the full line of products for the plan u are fallowing
 
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justugh

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finally some advice a old grower gave me

take a deep breath and relax....grab a bong hit come back read ....your plant will be fine u are learning so what ever happens this grow the next one will be better as same mistakes are not repeated .....we all went tho this going crazy over every little thing trying to get it right .....it is ok u will do fine

good luck
 

underD

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1 the tin foil is just when I'm working on it as the reflector isn't closed on that side and it hurts my eyes so its not permanent
2 im gonna go out and find myself some planters I live somewhere in the middle east (KSA) so you can imagine how difficult it was gathering all this stuff, its like people don't even think about plants here.i think I'm gonna go with the 3 gallon like you suggested so they would fit.
3 i was planning on moving them to the bottom by my light setup doesn't go down that far, ill fix that now. should i move them to the planter straight away or should i give them a week? they're still 5 days old.
4 the carbon filter is mounted on the top of the tent and connected to a fan inside the tent< should i move that fan outside? i haven't used it yet because airflow seems good for now, the fan outside the tent is on the bottom backside which gets air from the room to inside the tent causing pressure that pushes air out the top right vent < which will become the carbon filter outtake. so carbon filter mounted inside will suck air and outtake from the top
5 the small fan inside is temporary I'm getting one of those that clip on the side of the tent instead of making a stand < is this what you meant?
6 I might be getting a new reflector with piping if not then ill try to be creative and engineer something
7 I have the ph soil test kit and already ordered PH up Ph down and liquid tester
8 I wish I could grab a bongsmilie and relax but the thing is and you might not believe this but a gram here costs around 150$ at best if you know the grower/seller well. SO DON'T TELL ME TO RELAX xd :cuss:
man I literally don't know how to thank you this is some amazing info I don't know what I would've don't without it. thanks.
 

justugh

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1 the tin foil is just when I'm working on it as the reflector isn't closed on that side and it hurts my eyes so its not permanent
2 im gonna go out and find myself some planters I live somewhere in the middle east (KSA) so you can imagine how difficult it was gathering all this stuff, its like people don't even think about plants here.i think I'm gonna go with the 3 gallon like you suggested so they would fit.
3 i was planning on moving them to the bottom by my light setup doesn't go down that far, ill fix that now. should i move them to the planter straight away or should i give them a week? they're still 5 days old.
4 the carbon filter is mounted on the top of the tent and connected to a fan inside the tent< should i move that fan outside? i haven't used it yet because airflow seems good for now, the fan outside the tent is on the bottom backside which gets air from the room to inside the tent causing pressure that pushes air out the top right vent < which will become the carbon filter outtake. so carbon filter mounted inside will suck air and outtake from the top
5 the small fan inside is temporary I'm getting one of those that clip on the side of the tent instead of making a stand < is this what you meant?
6 I might be getting a new reflector with piping if not then ill try to be creative and engineer something
7 I have the ph soil test kit and already ordered PH up Ph down and liquid tester
8 I wish I could grab a bongsmilie and relax but the thing is and you might not believe this but a gram here costs around 150$ at best if you know the grower/seller well. SO DON'T TELL ME TO RELAX xd :cuss:
man I literally don't know how to thank you this is some amazing info I don't know what I would've don't without it. thanks.
np man and a 150 gram damn i only get 300 a oz

if prices are really like that then u are going to need never to tell anyone u are doing this as the police seem to have crushed the black market in your area ....so a new supplier will drawl attention (i am lucky on a major drug path north and south east and west too ) so i am a tiny fish lost in the back ground noise

the only thing i am would be willing to ship in te mail would be lollipops .......but i do not know when i will have a new batch the 30 i got are called for
 

justugh

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and yes take the fan out of the tent (the big inline one it is only increasing the heat in the room u will notice a 5 to 10 degree change once it is out )

and yes the stand is what u will need as u can not clip them to the tent pole (not enough room for it to move side to side with the tent material right there .......so the stand is the only choice to allow the move ment on the fan to cover the whole area

and yes i would plant them in the planters as soon as u can so that tap root can grow down and make those fine tendrils that soak up the water and food at a faster rate then the fat roots

the reflector if u are going to build shoot for this design
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it covers a 5x5 tent great anything smaller even better
 

Feisty1UR

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a gram here costs around 150$ at best if you know the grower/seller well. SO DON'T TELL ME TO RELAX xd :cuss:
homeboys gettin ripped off big time. 150 a gram? o_O

Unless they're growing the most potent ganja in the world. I don't believe it
 

justugh

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homeboys gettin ripped off big time. 150 a gram? o_O

Unless they're growing the most potent ganja in the world, I doubt that's true.
never know .....i am one of those group jumper ppl

here if u know someone u are getting it at cost ......but the hipsters/yuppies are paying 20 a gram some times 50 a gram

i know my jars have been sold for 600 to ppl when i only sold them originally for 300........thc is in the 18-22% range mostly organic feed
 

Corso312

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He said he's in the middle east, I believe it.. Its probably difficult to score some killer green. But hash is gotta be prevalent I'm guessing.
 

Jimdamick

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good advice so far, but it is VERY important to put those plants, not removing them from the peat pots you have them in now, into a final home, and for that 3 gallon pots would be my recommendation. The peat pot will suck moisture out of anything really quickly, so do not even let them become close to dry, or they will suck your plant dry. Get a pot, put some potting mix in it, dig a hole in the middle, and plop those babies into that hole, like yesterday. The roots will grow through rapidly, and all will be good.
One last thing is that I would only keep the best 4 plants, and give away/kill the rest as you will not have the room to grow anymore than that effectively. Good luck.
 

Jimdamick

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oooh middle east hash ......good shit thc and little opium
Oh man, I just got a hard on thinking about that. Once I had layered Lebanese hash with opium as a middle layer. OH MY GOD! What beautiful shit that was. Talk about pleasant dreams. Man, that was some amazing shit.
 

justugh

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Oh man, I just got a hard on thinking about that. Once I had layered Lebanese hash with opium as a middle layer. OH MY GOD! What beautiful shit that was. Talk about pleasant dreams. Man, that was some amazing shit.
the ? is did u hookah it or did u peace pipe smoke'em (peace pipe is any pipe that is so long another has to light for u)

in the mid 90s i was the major middle man in this area i got a fucking OZ of this high grade opium as my cut in a deal ........the shit was great no road rage no pain no caring wake up felt like someone had worked on loosening all your muscles ...feel like butter

the craziest thing i did was boat topped with it with keef on top of that .......that was one hell of a weekend

Why is everyone saying to buy planters? He's got pots stacked underneath his plants..
my reason i listed above ....for why fabric planters are better then solid material

i do not like those type of planters as i seen them choke plants out and drown plants because the drain hole got plugged from a piece of something in the soil
 

underD

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homeboys gettin ripped off big time. 150 a gram? o_O

Unless they're growing the most potent ganja in the world. I don't believe it
I never bought any here but I have smoked and it's not that terrible doesn't taste good or smell good but does get you high, I lived in San Diego for a few years only got through a friend who owns a dispensary. used to get 7.5$ - 14$ a G
 

underD

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He said he's in the middle east, I believe it.. Its probably difficult to score some killer green. But hash is gotta be prevalent I'm guessing.
it's almost impossible to find cause only a few upper class people know about it. people here still don't know what marijuana is, they think its all hash and all black.
oh and the hash here has doubled the already freaking high price to double that price with worse quality because of the war against terrorishits in Yemen. everything got more expensive this year gas prices increased 2 weeks ago by 50% :D perfect time to grow.
 

underD

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good advice so far, but it is VERY important to put those plants, not removing them from the peat pots you have them in now, into a final home, and for that 3 gallon pots would be my recommendation. The peat pot will suck moisture out of anything really quickly, so do not even let them become close to dry, or they will suck your plant dry. Get a pot, put some potting mix in it, dig a hole in the middle, and plop those babies into that hole, like yesterday. The roots will grow through rapidly, and all will be good.
One last thing is that I would only keep the best 4 plants, and give away/kill the rest as you will not have the room to grow anymore than that effectively. Good luck.
I agree but I don't think i can kill of my first borns. Ill wait for them to die on their own, room for error? maybe sell one or two if I find a g$o$o$d H$o$m$e xd
 

Corso312

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I've never used a fabric pot, I've been growing for almost 10 years..those pots will work fine if ya pop a couple holes in the bottom.

That's messed up @underD , I assumed hash was cheap out there.
 
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