EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

[2ANONYMOUS]

I got a job for someone who knows his plumbing.

The best part? The lower weed prices go, the more business we'll get!

well it can go so low that its not worth growing i remember when the Chinese manipulated the weed in montreal years back they bought everything up @ a low price i mean 600 a pound held onto it for a bit until everything was dried up and unloaded it @ double if not triple the price right now i wish i was harvesting but just went into flower weed is scarce this time of year everyone calling and none around now this is where to make cash

 

[red w. blue]

People quote the 90% top tier back in history but I read an article that explained due to writeoffs that are not permitted today 36% was the calculated top tier tax payments.

When the federal income tax was implemented, congress guaranteed that it would never exceed 2%. What a bunch of fucking liars eh?

I think we need to get rid of the income tax altogether. I think we need to institute a national sales tax. The system is in place to already collect the taxes. We could abolish the IRS tomorrow and never have to file another income tax return again. We would not have to prove to the government what our expenses were to prevent further confiscation of our wealth. There are so many upsides to this plan.

The problem with that is I have paid income tax on my money except for 30 odd grand left in an IRA with LPL. That is still there because if pulled it all out my income tax would have been very high, it will come out with in the next 3 years. So I will have paid income tax on all of my money except for my SS. Why should I pay income tax again on my money?

 

[2ANONYMOUS]

Cause its a crooked world lets see here you put 10,000 of taxed money into RRSP you get a certain amount taxable benefit each year ( Equates to Fuck all ) then you withdrawl the RRSP and get taxed the second time on that large sum before you even see the money
and it also goes as income on income tax for that year you have just been bent over sideways

 

[Fogdog]

Your right i really don't care to say go to Russia lol i find that funny ,, but ask your self something which appears to work and not your system >>?? or communism ?? cause if we look at how Communist China is doing appears in 11 years they will surpase USA in GDP
and what about military China could overtake the United States as the world’s biggest military spender in the 2020s or 2030s what does that tell you ???
I mean already china has went to the moon and of course questioned USA on the moon landings stating where is everything lol
as countries get better advance as in space etc wont be long before more lies will be found that USA has said or said they did lol

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
Mind you USA still needs russian rockets to get to space kinda gives you a new meaning to how advanced usa really is

http://www.popsci.com/ula-may-get-permission-to-continue-using-russian-rockets
If you have to rely on russian rockets to get to space your in deep trouble

Oh gawd, you are not only a holocaust denier but a "the landing on the moon was a hoax" guy too. I can't take you seriously and you aren't funny. Not sure I'm going to be reading your posts in the future.

So, if you hate this country, why do you come here and post on a thread about Sanders? Just to be a gadfly?

Anyway, China is not really communist anymore. Its ruled by an oligarchy of wealthy scions of the earlier party leadership. They are headed for some pretty hard times over the next few years. Not that I like the idea of 1.3 billion people on hard times but that's the direction they are going. Corruption, a completely fucked up monetary policy, artificial production and waste from building some recently constructed and very strange ghost cities and political unrest are taking them down.

The wealthy of this country see the power that the oligarchy in China hold and salivate. We've got to break their stranglehold on Washington before they fulfill their wishes. Sanders, president, 2017.

 

[2ANONYMOUS]

Enough said

 

[UncleBuck]

Enough said

oh, look.

a holocaust denier posted a youtube video telling us why we are all so wrong about stuff.

must be legit.

 

[Fogdog]

oh, look.

a holocaust denier posted a youtube video telling us why we are all so wrong about stuff.

must be legit.

Canadian and jealous of the US. Loves him some Nukes!

I submit 2A's proof that we didn't walk on the moon. It was MJ after all.

 

[Rob Roy]

I was willing to listen and hear what Bernie had to say. then he released his tax plan and I was like WTF

See? There's hope for you yet.

 

[nitro harley]

That logic worked out real well for Ross Perot, didn't it?

I actually voted for him. I thought it was the right thing to do at the time. TRUMP!

 

[Rob Roy]

This has been explained many many times and I'm not doing it again..it's time to change the record..it's scratched.

I don't recall you explaining it rationally. I do remember you rationalizing though.

 

[Rob Roy]

I was willing to listen and hear what Bernie had to say. then he released his tax plan and I was like WTF

Any time some people plan others lives for them, you should say WTF.

 

[Corso312]

Any time some people plan others lives for them, you should say WTF.

You do a lot of typing without ever saying shit, I have read hundreds of your posts and I still don't know wtf you are talking about. The best I can come up with is you feel everyone should be free enough to walk around naked and not stop at red lights.

 

[Rob Roy]

You do a lot of typing without ever saying shit, I have read hundreds of your posts and I still don't know wtf you are talking about. The best I can come up with is you feel everyone should be free enough to walk around naked and not stop at red lights.

Can a person delegate a right they do not possess?




For the record : Shit.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Can a person delegate a right they do not possess?

Publicly elected officials are hired to delegate said rights - that's their job. By way of public election, those in the majority of the society in which they live, with, ideally, the best ideas, are elected specifically in order to determine what is right for society at the current time given the current circumstances with a solid backbone of ethics and guidelines to follow.

So no, a random person without authority cannot delegate a right they do not possess, but a publicly elected official via a representative republic can because that's exactly what they're hired by the people in a society to do.

 

[schuylaar]

People keep demanding the rich pay their 'Fair' share. When you try to pin them down on what that exactly is you usually cant get a response because they know that anything over 50% is bullshit... Nobody should work for less than 1/2 of their paycheck to pay the government.

Nobody should work more than 40 hours to just exist.

 

[schuylaar]

He is proposing 53% at the top tier. Which means the federal government gets more than 1/2 your income. Then the state government gets to come in for a slice. Then you pay property taxes. And sales taxes in many expensive cities are 10% or even more.

Rich people do not have to stay in the United States. There are many other options. Bernie wants to add trillions of dollars in liabilities for free education through college, etc and then on the other side he wants to impose punative taxes that have demonstrably cut revenue in the past when implemented. So, he is going to make the financial situation in the country far worse if he gets elected. I dont think Trump is that stupid.

What was the upper tier tax bracket like during your beloved nostalgic 40s and 50s?

You have to stop right there.

Citing property taxes and sales tax? Those are all discretionary you needn't have a home..rent and control your spending on food clothing transportation etc and you don't have to pay sales tax.

See how easy it is to live?

I see no difference in your complaint than if you made $290/week.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Nobody should work more than 40 hours to just exist.

Tell that to your orthopedic surgeon who's about to give you a knee replacement.

Frankly, I don't think you have a clue what "work ethic" means. I know quite a few folks working 60 hour weeks and their very happy. That's the lifestyle they want and like.

 

[Uncle Ben]

What was the upper tier tax bracket like during your beloved nostalgic 40s and 50s?

You have to stop right there.

Citing property taxes and sales tax? Those are all discretionary you needn't have a home..rent and control your spending on food clothing transportation etc and you don't have to pay sales tax.

See how easy it is to live?

Some of us have a problem with stealing. You cited an example where you stole from McDonald's and you're proud of it.

Pretty stupid to think taxes, property taxes in particular are "discretionary" as a consumer....and you do consume like the rest of us. Or should I say "you take"?

Who in the hell do you think is paying the taxes on your apartment? YOU

Who do you think is paying for the increase in minimum wage as you shoal out more bucks for that Big Mack basket? YOU

 

[schuylaar]

Here is why I defend the rich,

Because I want to be rich some day and I dont want to have worked that hard to be taking home a paycheck where my boss is the government and they get more than I do.

Who here is happy to see that the government gets a raise when they do???

Someday?

Worry about it when you get there..you might have cancer someday..should you start the chemo now?

 

[schuylaar]

Some of us have a problem with stealing. You cited an example where you stole from McDonald's and you think that's OK, eh?

WOW..you'd be a shitty 'telephone game' player.