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chuckbane

chuckbane

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oh i get it, you think i am attacking americans and you are one of those patriotic ones.. i see now,, see here is the kicker.. i am half american and more than half of my relatives reside in the u.s. canada has its problem too but i will not stand blindly and say that the U.S.A. is not the main contributor to the downfall of the world.. take your patriotic views elsewhere they are not needed here... i stand for everything you are not, and you dont belong on MY thread... go hang a flag, give a salute, and pledge allegiance to the country who fucks you in the ass, i have too much freedom and truth to spread
 
FLoJo

FLoJo

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im not exactly sure how this became such a ridiculously childish thread when the topic is as serious as a motherfucking heart attack...

anyways lets start with what i can remember reading before all the bullshit started.. to the douche talking about big biz getting taxed and building roads and all that jazz.. hey smarty if you took walmart and broke it into 1000 different companies, those companies would pay lots of small taxes that would add up to a big tax.. understand?

second... yes we need government, it keeps up civilized to an extent.. i know there have been many instances where i would have made somewhat morally loose decisions had it not been for reasoning with the consequences and likelihood of being caught for said actions (law). we do need government to an extent to help facilitate the greater good such as public services and taking care of the collective. the problem is that our "federal" government has taken over and become too powerful and basically trampled all over the constitution which was designed to keep federal power in check.. our democracy is not actually a democracy and anyone that thinks it is.... put the pipe down, your too high.. just check the CIA factbook which states that the US is "Constitution-based federal republic with a strong democratic tradition." what does this mean you ask? basically it means that a small group of elected people make all of the decisions for us such as congress.. ever wonder why with all the bills and amendments that go through congress your not voting 50 times a day? its because you dont have a say in the government... the people that get elected make the decision for you because by voting them in you are giving them your trust to do the right thing... the problem is that the people that get elected are generally the ones with the most financial backing who can get the most ads out and effectively "market" themselves to the unsuspecting public using whatever immoral untrue tactics that it takes.. then they turn around and pay back the financial backers by persuing their interests... oddly enough this is EXACTLY what is going on right now in iraq...

hmm i wonder why ol VP dick got over 50 million for not a signing bonus but a leaving bonus from halliburton who has not only made a fuckton of the war but also overcharged the american people something like 2 billion dollars... and companies such as titan and blackwater who get military contracts for rediculous amounts of money.. funny how all of the ceos of these companies are ex high ranking government and military workers.. sounds like you scratch my back ill scratch yours.. we spend something like 1.8 billion yes billion dollars a DAY in iraq while back home we are cutting funding for schools, borrowing money from the state level and giving our citizens 300 dollars to stimulate the economy.... give me a fucking break

while all this is happening yes the fed does want us dumber because then they can do whatever the fuck they want and we will keep watching mtv all day and ignoring what is happening...even tho if we wanted to know the real news we couldnt because all of the major news outlets are owned by the same corporations.

we have been taken advantage of and creativley stripped of our liberties under the context of fear.. like this whole war on terror.. it is in our constitution that a war cannot be declared ON A COUNTRY first of all which we never did and without the approval of congress... it was a war on terror. why terror you ask? terror is not a place, it has no face, and there is no way to beat it.... it is a war that if decided can be fought indefinietly not only fighting people in other countries but people in our own country...

do yourself a favor google operation calbe splice and operation garden plot... these are bills already passed by gdub which state that anyone who is deemed a terrorist... which by the way according to the patriot act includes a long list of things including anyone that talks bad about the government or tries to inspire any anti government actions.. can be taken without trial without due process and put into a holding facility indefinitely.

why would they do that? well try this on for size.. we are the most free contry on earth right? but we have the largest prison population on the planet.. most federal prisons are not even federally owned anymore.. they have been outsourced by private corporations and get funding from the federal government. at a good portion of these facilities they are starting work programs for rehabilitation.. companies like at&t actually have prisoners that handle customer service calls, this is no bullshit look it up... they work for pennies on the dollar and handle your shitty phone problems... not only that but other places have programs such as manufacturing and license plate printing.... pretty cheap labor if you ask me..

we have been and will be a militaristic government and they have slowly but surely been putting the curtain over our eyes so that they can do whatever they want and achieve world domination... a new world order which is not some conspiracy theory... how many of you knew that gdub has also passed a bill that will allow mexico the US and canada to become ONE COUNTRY or collective similar to the EU... guess what its called? the north american union! and we even have our own currency! the Amero!! isnt that fan fucking tastic... you wonder why they wont do shit about the borders because they know before too long its gonna be one big motherfucking shithole anyway! they are already setting up the infrastructure i belive its called the trans texas corridor or something basically a superhighway system that goes from mexico to canada..

i know i ran off on a bunch of crazy tangents and have been rambling about unrelated shit but the fact of the matter is we were never supposed to have a government that was this strong... we no longer control it, it controls us.. knowledge is power and from generation to generation they have been stripping us of our knowledge along with our rights and liberties not only as americans but as people.. this country is not free, it is not even close to free, we have been brainwashed and taken over and until the word gets out its not going to stop... WE MUST TAKE BACK WHAT IS OURS

ps and if anyone is too lazy to look this shit up themselves i am willing to post proof.
 
Stoney McFried

Stoney McFried

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awesome post.+rep. I'd like to add...freedom cannot be taken, only given away I guess thats why you don't see me get all freaked on this stuff, because I still recognize my own individual inalienable right to freedom.
FLoJo said:
im not exactly sure how this became such a ridiculously childish thread when the topic is as serious as a motherfucking heart attack...

anyways lets start with what i can remember reading before all the bullshit started.. to the douche talking about big biz getting taxed and building roads and all that jazz.. hey smarty if you took walmart and broke it into 1000 different companies, those companies would pay lots of small taxes that would add up to a big tax.. understand?

second... yes we need government, it keeps up civilized to an extent.. i know there have been many instances where i would have made somewhat morally loose decisions had it not been for reasoning with the consequences and likelihood of being caught for said actions (law). we do need government to an extent to help facilitate the greater good such as public services and taking care of the collective. the problem is that our "federal" government has taken over and become too powerful and basically trampled all over the constitution which was designed to keep federal power in check.. our democracy is not actually a democracy and anyone that thinks it is.... put the pipe down, your too high.. just check the CIA factbook which states that the US is "Constitution-based federal republic with a strong democratic tradition." what does this mean you ask? basically it means that a small group of elected people make all of the decisions for us such as congress.. ever wonder why with all the bills and amendments that go through congress your not voting 50 times a day? its because you dont have a say in the government... the people that get elected make the decision for you because by voting them in you are giving them your trust to do the right thing... the problem is that the people that get elected are generally the ones with the most financial backing who can get the most ads out and effectively "market" themselves to the unsuspecting public using whatever immoral untrue tactics that it takes.. then they turn around and pay back the financial backers by persuing their interests... oddly enough this is EXACTLY what is going on right now in iraq...

hmm i wonder why ol VP dick got over 50 million for not a signing bonus but a leaving bonus from halliburton who has not only made a fuckton of the war but also overcharged the american people something like 2 billion dollars... and companies such as titan and blackwater who get military contracts for rediculous amounts of money.. funny how all of the ceos of these companies are ex high ranking government and military workers.. sounds like you scratch my back ill scratch yours.. we spend something like 1.8 billion yes billion dollars a DAY in iraq while back home we are cutting funding for schools, borrowing money from the state level and giving our citizens 300 dollars to stimulate the economy.... give me a fucking break

while all this is happening yes the fed does want us dumber because then they can do whatever the fuck they want and we will keep watching mtv all day and ignoring what is happening...even tho if we wanted to know the real news we couldnt because all of the major news outlets are owned by the same corporations.

we have been taken advantage of and creativley stripped of our liberties under the context of fear.. like this whole war on terror.. it is in our constitution that a war cannot be declared ON A COUNTRY first of all which we never did and without the approval of congress... it was a war on terror. why terror you ask? terror is not a place, it has no face, and there is no way to beat it.... it is a war that if decided can be fought indefinietly not only fighting people in other countries but people in our own country...

do yourself a favor google operation calbe splice and operation garden plot... these are bills already passed by gdub which state that anyone who is deemed a terrorist... which by the way according to the patriot act includes a long list of things including anyone that talks bad about the government or tries to inspire any anti government actions.. can be taken without trial without due process and put into a holding facility indefinitely.

why would they do that? well try this on for size.. we are the most free contry on earth right? but we have the largest prison population on the planet.. most federal prisons are not even federally owned anymore.. they have been outsourced by private corporations and get funding from the federal government. at a good portion of these facilities they are starting work programs for rehabilitation.. companies like at&t actually have prisoners that handle customer service calls, this is no bullshit look it up... they work for pennies on the dollar and handle your shitty phone problems... not only that but other places have programs such as manufacturing and license plate printing.... pretty cheap labor if you ask me..

we have been and will be a militaristic government and they have slowly but surely been putting the curtain over our eyes so that they can do whatever they want and achieve world domination... a new world order which is not some conspiracy theory... how many of you knew that gdub has also passed a bill that will allow mexico the US and canada to become ONE COUNTRY or collective similar to the EU... guess what its called? the north american union! and we even have our own currency! the Amero!! isnt that fan fucking tastic... you wonder why they wont do shit about the borders because they know before too long its gonna be one big motherfucking shithole anyway! they are already setting up the infrastructure i belive its called the trans texas corridor or something basically a superhighway system that goes from mexico to canada..

i know i ran off on a bunch of crazy tangents and have been rambling about unrelated shit but the fact of the matter is we were never supposed to have a government that was this strong... we no longer control it, it controls us.. knowledge is power and from generation to generation they have been stripping us of our knowledge along with our rights and liberties not only as americans but as people.. this country is not free, it is not even close to free, we have been brainwashed and taken over and until the word gets out its not going to stop... WE MUST TAKE BACK WHAT IS OURS

ps and if anyone is too lazy to look this shit up themselves i am willing to post proof.
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FLoJo

FLoJo

Well-Known Member
i totally respect your opinion and do agree to a degree... somewhat like in V for vendetta (great movie shows where we are headed)where the girl talks about how they can take everything away but not our thoughts and whatnot... anyways what is in your mind and your freedom of thought or belief can never be taken away but do not think for a second that your tangible freedoms cannot be taken away... if one day martial law was declared and all terrorists were hunted down you could be deemed a terrorist just for agreeing with me... when they throw us both in a cage we have no freedom, it has been taken away...

now this does seem a little drastic and far fetched, but if you look at the patriot act, operation cable splicer, and operation garden plot, it could legally happen
 
FLoJo

FLoJo

Well-Known Member
and to go along with my last posts heres a few things to google just to get your noodle running

FEMA concentration camps
operation garden plot
operation cable splice
rex 84 program
north american union
the amero
bilderberg group
trilateral commission

start with that...

heres a VERY interesting book/video by lindsay williams to google which talks about our national debt and all kinds of crazy shit about why we are in iraq... he made a prophecy which recently came true about valuing oil in a different currency its about an hour but highly worth it... this is part 1 of 8
YouTube - Lindsey Williams - The Energy Non-Crisis - Part 1 of 8 highly worth it... open your eyes

and this is from a couple weeks ago, lindsey makes more predictions... ill bet hes right http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=921db4jqsUw
 
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