Why do you newbs always grow auto's?

Alienwidow

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where's @Diabolical666 when you need her? she called him out weeks ago and seems to be spot on. lol.
Ya the phrase verbal diarrhea comes to mind. Thats the foot in the mouth comment i was referring to. I got myself some bad press a while back. The correct thing to do in the situation is mind your ps and qs if you want to be accepted by your peers again. Not go and call out a whole sub form of riu and call em noobs. (Shakes head in disbelief)
 

Trich_holmes

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gotta step your game up. sounds like your growing skills are the real issue, not fem seeds.
Lmfao If you haven't seen any herms, then you aren't growing much or stick with clone onlys..Gtfoh with that bs. Every so often you get a pack that has a herm. Ever grow GSC strains or cherry pie. Good luck being 100% herm free...
 
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rkymtnman

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Lmfao If you haven't seen any herms, then you aren't growing much or stick with clone onlys..Gtfoh with that bs. Every so often you get a pack that has a herm. Ever grow GSC strains or cherry pie. Good luck being 100% herm free...
guess your reading comprehension isn't up to snuff either. 6 yrs of all fem seeds for me. no herms.

i grow stable strains, not crap rushed out the door cause it's got a cute name.
 

Dr. Who

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Just because you haven't had one doesn't make it false. It's a fact. Read up on it, nothing to debate here...
You had better start researching deeper then the internet!

Your wrong..I know and speak with plenty of breeders....I breed and we all have opinions!
I don't consider rebuilt strains should be called what the "breeder" intended to "copy". That includes 99.89 % of ALL cookie strains on the common seed market! Weak genetics and improper breeding practice are part of the equation.

Just last run I had 3 CC Tahoe's that went crazy, one blew up full on male style. I had a 10 pack of Barneys farm bout 7 years ago that 4 went full on herm. Have had others here and there. As I said before I never said all fems are herms otherwise why the hell would I bother. Hell reg seed have an ability to herm, its inherent in the plants genes. I've been doing this over 10 years pal, so your high and mighty attitude won't get you far. keep growing your fems. I do as well on occasion. Like I said before there's a ton of documented conversations with this that are long and drawn out. And reading arguments on here I don't think is any definitive either as I have yet to see any geneticist chime in. Until then we'll agree to disagree.
The whole problem there is Cali Con and Barney's LMFAO!
43 years !! I breed too!

MOST common cause of bisexuality (proper term) in growing plants is the growers fault!
#1 cause of Bisexuality in Cannabis = Environmental causes leading to severe plant stress. Overfeeding to being too hot to running to long!
I got news for you - light leaks....not so much!
 
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Trich_holmes

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You had better start researching deeper then the internet!

Your wrong..I know and speak with plenty of breeders....I breed and we all have opinions!
I don't consider rebuilt strains should be called what the "breeder" intended to "copy". That includes 99.89 % of ALL cookie strains on the common seed market! Weak genetics and improper breeding practice are part of the equation.



The whole problem there is Cali Con and Barney's LMFAO!
43 years !! I breed too!

MOST common cause of bisexuality (proper term) in growing plants is the growers fault!
#1 cause of Bisexuality in Cannabis = Environmental causes leading to severe plant stress. Overfeeding to being too hot to running to long!
I got news for you - light leaks....not so much!
A. Who said anything about light leaks
B. What company do you work for? I chuck pollen as well.
C. This discussion stems from the opinions of whether making fems with CS passes down the herm trait to offspring.

I'm not trying to have a damn argument on here but everyone thinks they've got all the answers. I admit I do it at times as well. I have been told to my face as well as done shit tons ( as we probably all have) of reading about everything under the sun, including th CS fem debate. I have multiple grow locations and have been doing it over 10 years so it's not like I'm some closer grower who doesn't know shit. As for Barneys and Cali hell ya they suck balls, but I wanted a strain and took the leap. I've seen other herms here and there. It happens when you've grown hundreds of plants. Why this turned into an argument where I ever said every fem seed is herm trash. Just said they have the trait which is what I've always been taught. Unless someone on here is a geneticist, then nothing anyone says on here is gonna change my opinion.
 
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rkymtnman

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Damn 6 years? How many plants at a time? What strains, what breeders? I must learn from you...
6 yrs. i know, i know, tell me you have nutes that are 6 yrs old and i don't know shit.

try nirvana. stable genetics. of kick ass old school strains too that are fems. .

you aren't ready to learn from me just yet grasshopper.

and yes, i'm a geneticist. and i stayed at a holiday inn express last nite.
 

Trich_holmes

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We all have different opinions and different ways to get what we want. As long as we all end up with our herb, who cares I suppose.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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Regular beans have less of a chance of going hermie than fems.

Out of the thousands of reg beans I've popped I've never once had a herime. But about 70% of fem went hermie on me..

That's common knowledge in the community
I have grown fem beans for over a decade. Maybe 5% have turned hermie. And the majority of those were so late in flower it didnt matter. Maybe your herm problem is your growing skills. You may want to work on those before you attempt to breed. Or should I say chucking some pollen around, probably more accurate.
 

whitebb2727

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In twice the time an auto would put it out. I was having a discussion with a guy a while back. Soiless grow, 100 days for the auto to hit 150 grams. For me to get photos that give me 150 grams id have to veg for three months at least, then flower for twoish. So lets say about 160 days. So mathematically speaking i could get eight plants under one light of the autos and only six of the photos. So over 2 lbs per light autos - 1.5 photos. Photos use 70% more days, so the light difference between the two is cancled obviously, since photos veg for three months at the same light schedule as the autos. from a math point of view theyre worth the money......if you can get good seed.

Im not an auto lover yet, just a liker. I just think this thread is b.s. Odank was runnin his mouth again and then claiming to be some big seed breeder now....with untested genetics, on his first run of a new place, never even flowered a bud in the new house. Yet hes talking shit about autos which hes probably never tried any good ones, and doesnt realize what percentage of the market autos are taking up lately.
I made my own cs and have been spraying the dinafem xxl auto. Self it and the seeds will be close to the mom. Its just now starting to flower and I'm sure I will have to remove the drawers in my cab to make room.
IMG_20160424_185331819_HDR.jpg The one in the right. My cab is 25 inches deep. 15 inch pot with about 5 gallons of dirt.

That is under t5. With a bigger pot and outdoors or hid and 100 days, a half pound.

She is really starting to look like a sativa at the top.
 

whitebb2727

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Lmfao If you haven't seen any herms, then you aren't growing much or stick with clone onlys..Gtfoh with that bs. Every so often you get a pack that has a herm. Ever grow GSC strains or cherry pie. Good luck being 100% herm free...
Something is off if you get more than one or two.

Why would I buy a seed without research? I look into the breeder and grow logs before I buy.

Guess what. No hermies.
 

Trich_holmes

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Something is off if you get more than one or two.

Why would I buy a seed without research? I look into the breeder and grow logs before I buy.

Guess what. No hermies.[/QUOT

Ive had a few handfuls of herms in 10+ yrs and hundreds of plants from seed?why do some of you keep acting like I ever said all fems are are trash?! do you buy a ten pack and clone the best one you find forever or something. I find it hard to believe anyone has done much growing when they say "I've never had a herm, so you must be doing something wrong". Usually those folks grow a tent with a lil 400 and act like they've got it locked. I like variety so I run PACKS lots of packs, and all of American breeders these days. Bodhi, Gage, Sin, Thug pug, Dungeons Vault, Exotic, TGA, ect...I don't buy trash my friend. And I certainly know what I'm doing. If you hunt and run lots of companies and strains it's bound to happen. I guess some folks only have a few plants and need stability but if your just growing ibls, your gonna have a pretty dull palate
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
For anyone confused about it here is a good article on the subject.

A fem plant is not a herm and will not cause it. If the seed does end up growing pollen it will produce more fem seeds.
http://www.coloradotopshelf.com/hermies.html
all spraying a plant with a chemical such as collidial sliver does is prevent the plant from producing the hormone, ethylyne, needed to grow female, pistilillate flowers, and instead, grow, male stamenate, flowers instead.. that's it..

if a man takes a hormone such as estrogen, a female hormone, he will start to grow breasts, his voice might go higher, and he will be less hairy.... the guy isn't suddenly a hermaphrodite, again, it's the hormone that caused the man to grow breasts, and have a higher voice, and less hair, same as what cs does to plants to make fem'ed seeds.. if a male who has taken a hormone such as estrogen has kids, do you really think he's going to have kids that have breasts if they're boys? that's simply laughable.. plants are no different then people when it comes to things like this.. if the man stops taking estrogen, the breasts go away, his voice raises, and he gets lucky and has to start shaving again.. it does nothing to his dna..
 

Corso312

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Its simple & and if you want to start different plants at different stages then you need to separate the grows...
If they are sooooo shit dude ? Then why are they selling ???
And why would you care ??
Have you got nothing better to do other than hang out on a newbie forum ???



Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber sell millions of albums..they both suck fat dick...
 

Gaz29

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grown fems for 6 yrs plus. no hermies.
I've grown mostly fem over the past 5 years too - NOT ONE Hermy'd...! I've had only one herm - it was a 'blue treacle' auto.. , i grow regs, fems and auto"s - anything that i like regardless of seed type. Happy growing,
Gaz
 

.ODanksta.

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False.

Absolutely false dank.

You are wrong on that and just repeating rhetoric.
How am I wrong? I've never had regular bean go hermie on me ever! Like I said 70% of the fems went hermie late in flower and had seeds.

I've been growing for a long time and I usually grow well over 200 plants per cycle.

Fem went hermie, regular beans didn't..

You can NOT say that my personal experiences are wrong.
 
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