High power COB -vs- hps vertical shoot out

Budley Doright

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my gear yields great, I simply don't grow for yield because I'm mostly breeding, no sense in weighing seeds
Isn't part of breeding getting the most out of a strain before moving on to the next one or running it till you have achieved the maximum that strain has to offer? Fuck I'm just trying to get to the point of getting the most out of a strain let alone breeding one :(. You seem to have more strains than Barney's lol.
 

RM3

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Isn't part of breeding getting the most out of a strain before moving on to the next one or running it till you have achieved the maximum that strain has to offer? Fuck I'm just trying to get to the point of getting the most out of a strain let alone breeding one :(. You seem to have more strains than Barney's lol.
I like breeding, so it's what I do. The more I create, the more I have to work with
 

Budley Doright

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I have already made history twice and my face has been on TV (all major networks at the time) so I have no need of fame to fill my sociopathic desires LOL

The whole yield thing is a commercial mindset, once you let go of it and set your mind on something else like more potency, or better smells, flavors you soon realize that yield should be a secondary consideration.

Been sayin for years, I'll always choose an ounce of one hitter weed over a pound of ten hitter weed, for me it's a no brainer 8)
I never said yield was primary, what I said was it is part of the equation and not something that shouldn't be cared about. I do agree that if it isn't good it's a waste of time and energy, that's what really pisses me off with all the mutts out there, pass them selves off as the next best thing and yes to a noob they are I guess, but me not so much :(, perhaps I smoke to much :(.
 
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RM3

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I never said yield was primary, what I said was it is part of the equation and not something that shouldn't be cared about. I do agree that if it isn't good it's a waste of time and energy, that's what really pisses me off with all the mutts out there, pass them selves off as the next best thing and yes to a noob they are I guess, but me not so much :(, perhaps I smoke to much :(.
well here is a pic of my CTF strain being grown by another grower, this is one plant at day 49, I'm pretty sure my gear yields just fine 8)
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ttystikk

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Also RM yield is important, even if it's not a prime concern, it should be a concern. If possible to increase yield and keep the same potency and bag appeal, then you've takin the next step IMO. Yield is important mostly for economics and environmental issues. You should not be satisfied with just one aspect of the strain if you are a true breeder, again IMO. Now if you have takin it to its fullest re yield and potency then great. Who knows, maybe with LED you may have the best of both worlds.
I work at achieving the best balance between yield and strength possible. Unlike @RM3 I am firmly of the opinion that the two goals are NOT mutually exclusive. Much can be done to improve both aspects without doing things that promote one goal at the expense of the other.

I'm running 860W CDM Allstart lamps because they produce more resin and better flavors. I get lots of people telling me that my produce is better than a dispensary's top shelf, often telling me that mine has achieved "best ever!" status for them.

I also think there are a lot of factors involved, not all of which are objective and quantifiable. Many are based on personal preference and of course on the biology of the individual involved.

Early results from my COB LED rack seem to indicate that it's quite capable of producing very high quality cannabis; dense, oily, pungent and powerful!
 

Budley Doright

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I work at achieving the best balance between yield and strength possible. Unlike @RM3 I am firmly of the opinion that the two goals are NOT mutually exclusive. Much can be done to improve both aspects without doing things that promote one goal at the expense of the other.

I'm running 860W CDM Allstart lamps because they produce more resin and better flavors. I get lots of people telling me that my produce is better than a dispensary's top shelf, often telling me that mine has achieved "best ever!" status for them.

I also think there are a lot of factors involved, not all of which are objective and quantifiable. Many are based on personal preference and of course on the biology of the individual involved.

Early results from my COB LED rack seem to indicate that it's quite capable of producing very high quality cannabis; dense, oily, pungent and powerful!
I've been eyeing the CDM's for a bit :).
 

Budley Doright

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run the side by sides my friend, I have 8)
Side by sides of what? Lights? Have you ran an LED beside an t5 setup? I did the t5 beside the Hid but really not a true one as there was light wash hitting both trays and the plants directly under the HID's did outperform the t5's in yield but were the same or very close in potency. And it was only once :). I really am not the best judge of potency, I have three levels ...... "This is shit", "this is ok", and finally "yes I'm high".
 

a mongo frog

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The guy growing that plant is one of my students 8)

Me & UB agree on a lot of things
I started running like that in 2011, right when he/you guys were preaching that. UB was preaching that big time then. Most wouldn't listen though. All you do is stop dropping N in late bloom. No disrespect to any gardener, but i hate seeing a yellowed out crop at finish and they say how its supposed to be like that.
 

RM3

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Side by sides of what? Lights? Have you ran an LED beside an t5 setup? I did the t5 beside the Hid but really not a true one as there was light wash hitting both trays and the plants directly under the HID's did outperform the t5's in yield but were the same or very close in potency. And it was only once :). I really am not the best judge of potency, I have three levels ...... "This is shit", "this is ok", and finally "yes I'm high".
Side by's of the 2 different styles of growing as set out in this post ,,,,,,,,,

https://www.rollitup.org/t/quality-over-quantity-techniques.908226/page-15#post-12572909
 

Budley Doright

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I started running like that in 2011, right when he/you guys were preaching that. UB was preaching that big time then. Most wouldn't listen though. All you do is stop dropping N in late bloom. No disrespect to any gardener, but i hate seeing a yellowed out crop at finish and they say how its supposed to be like that.
Ya it looks all dead and ugly lol. I get concerned if my plant looks like that :(.
 
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