Assange doesn't have shit.

abandonconflict

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The more i ponder this, the more inclined i am to call bullshit on it. I figure Assange sees it as a low risk ploy to hide the fact that the source was the Russians. He won't be offering any evidence of Rich leaking the info despite just blowing the guy's cover.

I also think the lowball number for the reward is so low that it is not going to entice anybody into giving him information even if it was some street criminal type murder. He figures if somebody does rat somebody out, he can afford yhe 20k and still claim Rich was his leaker.
So much for his murderer ever being caught then, huh? I bet after you blame the Russians for the leaks, you'll blame the same Russians for murdering him.
 

abandonconflict

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Rich is still alive apparently... still leaking info from the DNC.
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Oh right, cause you believe he doesn't have shit, not that he only dropped some of the leaks...

I mean I'm not even a huge fan of Assange, but even I know he claims to protect his sources and others by carefully releasing shit instead of getting tons of people killed by releasing sensitive shit hastily. At least that is the sort of claims Wikileaks made regarding the time when Hillary Clinton was SecState and he released like a million State Dept cables...
 

Unclebaldrick

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Oh right, cause you believe he doesn't have shit, not that he only dropped some of the leaks...

I mean I'm not even a huge fan of Assange, but even I know he claims to protect his sources and others by carefully releasing shit instead of getting tons of people killed by releasing sensitive shit hastily. At least that is the sort of claims Wikileaks made regarding the time when Hillary Clinton was SecState and he released like a million State Dept cables...
You should look back to his past actions regarding redaction. You are mistaken.
 

abandonconflict

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You should look back to his past actions regarding redaction. You are mistaken.
It doesn't really matter. He's dropping the leaks and the DNC is looking like fools. That's really what they get for stealing the primary and pushing such a terrible candidate though. They're pushing the one person who could lose to Trump. Even without the leaks, she's just shit. No wonder this election is apparently shaping up to have the lowest voter turnout in a very long time.
 

SneekyNinja

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It doesn't really matter. He's dropping the leaks and the DNC is looking like fools. That's really what they get for stealing the primary and pushing such a terrible candidate though. They're pushing the one person who could lose to Trump. Even without the leaks, she's just shit. No wonder this election is apparently shaping up to have the lowest voter turnout in a very long time.
And when Clinton wins by an absolute landslide, will you keep bitching?
 

abandonconflict

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And when Clinton wins by an absolute landslide, will you keep bitching?
Well she already stole the primary so it's not like changing the imperial party from within is exactly an option. No, you got it all fucked up if you think the country will ever support her, from Trump supporters to Berners to everyone else who has been participating in popular movements like antiwar, occupy, BLM since long before Berners and Trump supporters were ever thought of, the protests won't stop. It won't be anything like bitching either.
 

SneekyNinja

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Well she already stole the primary so it's not like changing the imperial party from within is exactly an option. No, you got it all fucked up if you think the country will ever support her, from Trump supporters to Berners to everyone else who has been participating in popular movements like antiwar, occupy, BLM since long before Berners and Trump supporters were ever thought of, the protests won't stop. It won't be anything like bitching either.
If by "stole the primary" you actually mean "got about 3 million more votes" then yeah, she stole the primary.
 

SneekyNinja

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Suspiciously, did well only in closed primaries where no paper trail exists.

Yeah, THAT 3M.
Evidence of fraudulent ballots?

None you say?

Sorry if I trust evidence (or lack thereof) more than the opinion of someone who didn't even register to vote in the primaries.

I can't believe you admitted it in the thread you started about Bernie Sanders, pretty funny stuff.

Prepare for the new President Clinton :)
 

schuylaar

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Evidence of fraudulent ballots?

None you say?

Sorry if I trust evidence (or lack thereof) more than the opinion of someone who didn't even register to vote in the primaries.

I can't believe you admitted it in the thread you started about Bernie Sanders, pretty funny stuff.

Prepare for the new President Clinton :)
I just fucking said it was CLOSED primary.:wall:

If you want to run with the dogs, you need to get up off the porch..brush up on your U.S. history facts, man-child.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Suspiciously, did well only in closed primaries where no paper trail exists.

Yeah, THAT 3M.
Illinois is not a closed primary. And the paper trail is huge and waiting for your inspection. Make some calls.

Not just taking one at random. I am from Illinois and know the voting proceedures well.
 

Fogdog

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Suspiciously, did well only in closed primaries where no paper trail exists.

Yeah, THAT 3M.
There is a sordid history of people using happenstance data and getting the answer completely wrong. The truthy wannabe facty suspicion you post here is no different. When using happenstance data, the researcher has to take into account co factors and test their hypothesis using control data (e.g. additional data from a separate analysis) to see if those variables influenced the result. With a more rigorous treatment of the data, where statisticians take into account demographics of each state, the relationship showing Clinton doing better in paperless and worse in paper tracking voter systems falls apart.

For example, take the relationship between age of Miss America and number of murders by a specific means:

Nobody really thinks there is causation implied here. The alignment of data is completely random.

If you want to, you can read an analysis of the "suspected" voter fraud" that pretty much debunks the truthy facty idea that Hillary had hackers steal 3 million votes by corrupting polling machines here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/6/12/1537438/-Election-Fraud-Myths-Are-we-witnessing-a-feckless-analysis
 

schuylaar

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There is a sordid history of people using happenstance data and getting the answer completely wrong. The truthy wannabe facty suspicion you post here is no different. When using happenstance data, the researcher has to take into account co factors and test their hypothesis using control data (e.g. additional data from a separate analysis) to see if those variables influenced the result. With a more rigorous treatment of the data, where statisticians take into account demographics of each state, the relationship showing Clinton doing better in paperless and worse in paper tracking voter systems falls apart.

For example, take the relationship between age of Miss America and number of murders by a specific means:

Nobody really thinks there is causation implied here. The alignment of data is completely random.

If you want to, you can read an analysis of the "suspected" voter fraud" that pretty much debunks the truthy facty idea that Hillary had hackers steal 3 million votes by corrupting polling machines here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/6/12/1537438/-Election-Fraud-Myths-Are-we-witnessing-a-feckless-analysis
Then why this? Because where there is smoke, there is fire..


Debbie Wasserman Schultz to resign as DNC chair as email scandal rocks Democrats
 

Unclebaldrick

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Why don't we still have daily coal deliveries to our homes as well?
We don't? Ha, I knew I was right to stock up.

Ties should be settled (IMHO) by a specially manufactured Magic-8 Ball that will have its answered determined by a blue-ribbon bipartisan commission. I think that will cut down on misunderstandings and bad feelings.
 
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