Liberals promising to deal with marijuana threat to road safety

JungleStrikeGuy

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https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/08/11/liberals-promising-to-deal-with-marijuana-threat-to-road-safety.html

Before proceeding with its pot-legalization agenda next spring, the Liberal government is promising to tackle the issue of drug-impaired driving, which bureaucrats say could spike considerably if marijuana becomes legal.

Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould was warned by officials in January of the risks, a classified briefing document obtained by The Canadian Press shows.

“The legalization of marijuana could lead to a significant increase in drug-impaired driving cases,” the memorandum reads.

Bureaucrats say there is limited data as only two jurisdictions in the United States have legalized marijuana: Colorado and Washington.

“For example, in Colorado, in the year following marijuana legalization, there was a 32 per cent increase in marijuana-related traffic deaths,” the memo reads.


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Conservative public safety critic Alain Rayes said the danger is real and accused the Liberals of venturing “too far, too fast.”

New Democrat Alexandre Boulerice said if the road safety issue is not addressed specifically, it would be a “major obstacle” to his party’s support of any future bill.


Conservative public safety critic Alain Rayes said the danger is real and accused the Liberals of venturing “too far, too fast.”

New Democrat Alexandre Boulerice said if the road safety issue is not addressed specifically, it would be a “major obstacle” to his party’s support of any future bill.

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“There will be the discussion about what’s safe,” Blair said. “And that discussion will range from a total prohibition — so no use of drugs in driving — to determining a safe level.”



 

gb123

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its the "effect" that's caused so just about everything can be entered into that argument :lol:
To much food.
Not enough sleep.
Anything that could have an effect while driving.
, even your wife! lmao
 

In Shape Vet

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i was watching a documentary and this issue had come up. It really sounds like those that are against legalization are running out of excuses now. This country not long ago not only had alcohol prohibition, but also segregation among people based on the color of their skin. This country and its people have always had some issues somehwere, but eventually people realize the truth and because this is a democracy, the majority, if willing to work together can make it so. What i do see however as an issue is a cop pressing charges on someone for a dui with a substance that has such a long half life in the body as compared to alcohol. thats the issue that i see police using as a catch all.

aside from that, with legalization and taxing the product, revenue can be generated to provide education to use in an appropriate manner. In the military, guys would get DUI's, we had many presentations and even programs for designated drivers. This country isnt run under a dictatorship, there is no law like gods word that would make things perfect, but with the proper education and information available to the public, we can reduce the chances of issues. Statistically there will always be people driving under the influence of some substance. as it is, texting and driving is an issue and that is not even a substance, its an activity.
 

Medipuffs

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I don't want people driving intoxicated and I cannot stress that point enough. People do it regardless of morals, laws or circumstances. Its not right but has been happening for as long as intoxicants have been around and people have been driving.

My friends father is a lawyer who specializes in drunk driving cases and getting his clients off when they are charged with dui's. For 5,000$ he gets his clients off the charges time and again. The police make countless mistakes during the course of their jobs and they are people with skeletons in their closets as well, a lot of them do not like being put on the stand because of these past actions. This lawyer makes them squirm and they now have a habit of skipping court because they are scared of his antics. My point is that even with a new system, its not going to be rock solid for prosecution and they are going to receive a lot of reduced charges come court time. The alcohol system check has been around forever and its not half as successful as they market it to be.

The goal is to curb accidents and improve safety but they ignore the fact that those who want to drive stoned already do. This is nothing more than a call to arms to promote partisan politics. The goal is to normalize marijuana so across the board they have to pretend its not already ingrained in our social fabric with make work projects such as these.
 

GroErr

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Evil weed evil weed @#$!. Fuck off with the bull-shit. If they're going to tackle impaired driving then it will have to include all types of impaired driving or it will be left to the courts to do it. I don't and don't advocate any impaired driving but I have a real problem with these idiots specifically targeting weed as the evil weed that will cause huge spikes in impaired driving. Get over it a-holes.
 

doingdishes

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i believe that you build a tolerance. i know if i smoke a joint these days i don't always get a buzz and hardly ever get "stoned" unless it concentrates. a simple J won't do it.

i agree we shouldn't be driving impaired. they should have to prove impairment and not just a "positive" in saliva. what if you had a brownie/edible? would that show up?
 

gb123

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i believe that you build a tolerance. i know if i smoke a joint these days i don't always get a buzz and hardly ever get "stoned" unless it concentrates. a simple J won't do it.

i agree we shouldn't be driving impaired. they should have to prove impairment and not just a "positive" in saliva. what if you had a brownie/edible? would that show up?
all you need to do is change it up.....the same amount will work just fine.
smoke something different. ;)
 

doingdishes

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all you need to do is change it up.....the same amount will work just fine.
smoke something different. ;)
i change strains every few days for that exact reason. i have a very high tolerance....speaking of high tolerance, where the hell is that guy who did that THC drink? is he off the toilet yet?
 

gb123

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i change strains every few days for that exact reason. i have a very high tolerance....speaking of high tolerance, where the hell is that guy who did that THC drink? is he off the toilet yet?
Try eat it then ... :)
High tolerance or not... ;)
 

torontoke

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Aaaaaand there's where I stopped. Seems pretty fucken high a number to me to be likely, given the population of the state is only 5.35 million. More reefer madness.
Don't forget that the place has become a stoner vacation hotspot and there's no mention of what % of the increase were out of town people.
Or that since the cops have a million times more free time stoned drivers become the new golden goose.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Aaaaaand there's where I stopped. Seems pretty fucken high a number to me to be likely, given the population of the state is only 5.35 million. More reefer madness.
It's pure bullshit. It's a metabolites test. Actual fatalities overall dropped in the years following. Those are the numbers that matter. More over, they probably changed testing protocol after legalization - you know, to deal with driving hazards and shit so they probably started testing more extensively for weed. That would be for someone in Colorado to figure out who cares about it... but overall fatalities dropped.

Such misleading bullshit. Journalists must be some of the least ethical people alive. Like for fucking real. Good lord.
 

jafro daweedhound

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Prior to their legalization they did not test for the enzyme that is present for up to 30days after use. The presence of this enzyme DOES NOT INDICATE IMPAIRMENT. The idiots do not realize that the human body stores cannabinoids and uses them unlike, meth, booze, crack, ect that the body tries to eliminate as quickly as possible.
This is stupid. It is like arguing that the earth is round or flat. It is flat - can you prove it is round, why don't we role off then ????? There is so a santa !!!!!!
Amazing how the media tries to and sometimes unintentionally, to make things conform to their lack of knowledge to capture the attention of the SHEEPAL who watch their tripe and swallow it. So pitiful their efforts to inform. They know just enough to be dangerous in their all encompassing little commercial worlds.
 
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