im not sure how some of you manage to kill your plants while they're still seedling or in veg cycle. 1 of my plants while it was a seedling had its leafs eaten a little and then a few days after it began to veg its stem was bent over by a strong wind. and the little s.o.b is still kicking. maybe im having some beginners luck. but if a baby plant is taking this much abuse within the first 10 days and still wont die then you all are doing something terribly wrong and should probably give up.