Your Grandpa's Weed or is UV supplementation really needed?

Vnsmkr

Vnsmkr

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In the late 80's ounces in n. la were 30 bucks but it was sticks, stems, & seeds (fucking pigs food). These days an ounce there will cost you $5-15 a gram depending if you get brick pack or something decently grown indoor
 
Lucky Luke

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Vnsmkr said:
In the late 80's ounces in n. la were 30 bucks but it was sticks, stems, & seeds (fucking pigs food). These days an ounce there will cost you $5-15 a gram depending if you get brick pack or something decently grown indoor
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No wonder you guys have such a stigma of out door.

Our pot has always been good (I dont know about prior the the 80's). Sticks were all bud. I dont think much was cured but thats was ok. It was good decent smoko in the main. But were closert to asian countries so we had allot of Thai etc comein in. Huge amounts of hash in the 90s.
 
Vnsmkr

Vnsmkr

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Yeah LA is close enough to Mex and people were always after a buck. Sticks there were just that, sticks, with some crappy little piece of smashed pigs food attached
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Poof goes another thread that could have been a great discussion about lighting, something I'm interested in due to an electric bill that's draining me :(. And also seen some pretty respectable grows using other lighting techniques besides HID. T5's ...... Well I think given the right strain and technique they grow weed, done it, but my yields were not what I want and need so looking for something else like COB/UV. Hate to stop using the actinic tubes though .... it takes amazingly cool pics :(. Does a unshielded MH not produce the most UV and if so would they not be better than a tube or LED?
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Vnsmkr said:
Yeah LA is close enough to Mex and people were always after a buck. Sticks there were just that, sticks, with some crappy little piece of smashed pigs food attached
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It seemed to be the luck of the draw for us, one load would be good (still brown and seeded) and another not so, as time went on it just got to hard to move, all the indoor growers ruined it lol. And never would we bring any in in the fall when there was a flood of cheap field pot. Actually had to change tactic and do the field thing here, that was a giant crap shoot as well with half of them making it till finish, way riskier than moving it north but way more profit :).
 
Marijuana Mercenary

Marijuana Mercenary

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The market is so flooded with dirt weed this year. Everyone and their grandpa is growing it. I don't know how these morons do it but they are growing indoor weed that is lower quality than the Mexican brick from days passed. If you have anything with decent bag appeal it sells out before theirs. I think they stay in business by having very desperate customers.

Brown, no trichomes, don't even care about trimming, tastes like burnt buds, aroma like old gym socks, covered in bugs that crackle when its smoked. If there is a bud cluster they give you a huge stem instead of breaking it down into buds.

And they still want 10-15 a gram.

I actually had a grower that wanted me to make dabs for him and brought over fan leaves.
 
mauricem00

mauricem00

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Budley Doright said:
Poof goes another thread that could have been a great discussion about lighting, something I'm interested in due to an electric bill that's draining me :(. And also seen some pretty respectable grows using other lighting techniques besides HID. T5's ...... Well I think given the right strain and technique they grow weed, done it, but my yields were not what I want and need so looking for something else like COB/UV. Hate to stop using the actinic tubes though .... it takes amazingly cool pics :(. Does a unshielded MH not produce the most UV and if so would they not be better than a tube or LED?
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it may seem strange but roseate bulbs produce a significant amount of UV light. about 8% of their total output is in the 300-400 nm range enough to stimulate THC production and keep the critters away ( spider mites etc) but not enough to burn plant so they can be run continuously .they also have a broad red peak at 650nm which increases phytochrome conversion causing the plant to direct more energy into flowering and bud production.one can produce a wide range of interesting spectrum's with T5s thanks to the aquarium community's demand for these specialty bulbs
 
DCobeen

DCobeen

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Okay I will say this if you use a greenhosue or cheap hoop house for outdoors you can control it allot better. I dont know if you all have smoked @Dr.D81 's outdoor pot but I will put it up against any bud grown indoors. You cant beet the sun for a light source period. I love indoor and outdoor pot. Only reason outdoor is cheaper is cause they dont have to pay for electricity for lights. We all pay more for indoor only cause we know light bills have to be added into price.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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DCobeen said:
Okay I will say this if you use a greenhosue or cheap hoop house for outdoors you can control it allot better. I dont know if you all have smoked @Dr.D81 's outdoor pot but I will put it up against any bud grown indoors. You cant beet the sun for a light source period. I love indoor and outdoor pot. Only reason outdoor is cheaper is cause they dont have to pay for electricity for lights. We all pay more for indoor only cause we know light bills have to be added into price.
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...and because we like to smoke weed at all times of the year, not just in the fall.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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mauricem00 said:
it may seem strange but roseate bulbs produce a significant amount of UV light. about 8% of their total output is in the 300-400 nm range enough to stimulate THC production and keep the critters away ( spider mites etc) but not enough to burn plant so they can be run continuously .they also have a broad red peak at 650nm which increases phytochrome conversion causing the plant to direct more energy into flowering and bud production.one can produce a wide range of interesting spectrum's with T5s thanks to the aquarium community's demand for these specialty bulbs
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What brand are you looking at? I'm going to see if I can get hortilux tubes here wholesale and play with a few of their powerveg t5's while I work on a COB setup .... Have no clue what I'm doing, just basically following the pack and maybe learn a bit on the way lol.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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thread is back on track!..hehe...

So the UVB globes you find in pet shops are the ones you guys are talking about? (i was out buying some fish on Sunday and saw them).
 
DCobeen

DCobeen

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RoneGrown said:
Why does the UVB need caution?
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those pure uv bulbs burnt @RM3 and fried a couple of his plants. You cant run them but short bursts during mid day lights on. you have to have all skin covered if working under them with UV blocking sunglasses also. We are figuring a way to use them so for now get actinic bulbs for UV. AGain the pure UV bulbs are to much UV for us or plants to handle. If you got a 5 min timer have them come on for 5 minutes per hr for 4 hrs in middle of lights on.
 
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