HPS banned for home grows?

Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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http://www.krdo.com/news/local-news/city-council-approves-new-rules-for-indoor-home-grows-/73402668

what ? so they are banning hid grows?

Says

Among the requirements approved by city council on Tuesday:

-Only 150 square feet of a residential structure can be used for a grow operation.

-Only LED, CFL, or fluorescent lighting is allowed, unless otherwise approved by the fire department.

-Ventilation systems are allowed, but they must be the filtered type; Odors cannot be detectable beyond the structure.

-Pitfalls or booby traps intended to harm anyone who disturbs the operation are strictly prohibited.

-Fire inspectors have the authority to inspect any structure with a grow operation for compliance.
 
FamMan

FamMan

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I read in the news paper they did this cuz residents and property landlords are complaining about large grows in residential areas. I think the tipping point was that large grows were destroying transformers. Not sure how true that is but regardless this is very concerning. Do HIDs make our grows illegal? My thing is how are they gonna know and what's the penalty for using them. 150 Sq of grow space isn't very big either.
 
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ForeverGreen42

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That's pretty screwed up. It's all about limiting (and eventually eliminating ) the little guy so they can bring in more revenue for the state. Glad I got way away from El Paso county and my closest neighbor is now 4 miles away :blsmoke:

Best of luck to everyone in El Paso county. - fuck getting approved by the fire dept! Lol
 
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majins said:
Sounds like you just need to get a Fire inspector to approve your room.
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That's exactly right & its a simple inspection I went thru 6 years ago in order for my businesses insurance to cover the building.

The city sent a fire Marshall as well as an electrical inspector & they were both very nice as well as professional,the fire Marshall gave me kudos for installing fire suppression gear over top the ballast area mounted on inflammable fire rated OSB .

Its not hard for an accomplished grower to pass an inspection in Michigan so I suspect its the same in Colo .
 
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ForeverGreen42 said:
That's pretty screwed up. It's all about limiting (and eventually eliminating ) the little guy so they can bring in more revenue for the state. Glad I got way away from El Paso county and my closest neighbor is now 4 miles away :blsmoke:

Best of luck to everyone in El Paso county. - fuck getting approved by the fire dept! Lol
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No your reading way too much into it,stick around here for a few years watching the pics of many grows being fire traps,extension cords all over,overtaxed electrical systems,hot improperly cooled HID lights within inches of flammable surfaces,no gfci's near water etc.

Its not hard to build a grow that's compliant with electrical & fire codes,I did & it didn't cost me a single penny I hadn't planned on spending,its not fair landlords should suffer their homeowners insurance refusing to pay when improper grows burn houses down or trash them with mold,getting growers to do it right the 1st time ,before they power up a grow is paramount to national legalization .
 
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ForeverGreen42

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Illinois Enema Bandit said:
No your reading way too much into it,stick around here for a few years watching the pics of many grows being fire traps,extension cords all over,overtaxed electrical systems,hot improperly cooled HID lights within inches of flammable surfaces,no gfci's near water etc.

Its not hard to build a grow that's compliant with electrical & fire codes,I did & it didn't cost me a single penny I hadn't planned on spending,its not fair landlords should suffer their homeowners insurance refusing to pay when improper grows burn houses down or trash them with mold,getting growers to do it right the 1st time ,before they power up a grow is paramount to national legalization .
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I've been growing in colorado under the mmj system for 7 years, been a homeowner for 4 years, so landlords don't have to worry about me.. I've been on this site on different accounts for 6-7 years & have been around growers for 15+ years. I'm not by any means new to the mmj scene & I agree with rkymtn - you are now on the database of growers. You can be prosecuted for 1 plant if the dea really wants to. Until it's legal on a federal level, the less the government knows the better. I stay within my legal limits and have professional electricians set up my electrical work if indoors (although I don't even grow indoors anymore) I just don't want "the man" being up in my business - they can suck a dick. And no, I'm not reading to much into this. I've had top attorneys in colorado who helped write the law here tell me they are trying to push home growers out. You need to open up your eyes to what's really going on instead of being like a little robot just believing and following everything they say.


BTW - I do agree there are a lot of unsafe grows, but I don't agree with what they are trying to do.
 
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FamMan

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ForeverGreen42 said:
I've been growing in colorado under the mmj system for 7 years, been a homeowner for 4 years, so landlords don't have to worry about me.. I've been on this site on different accounts for 6-7 years & have been around growers for 15+ years. I'm not by any means new to the mmj scene & I agree with rkymtn - you are now on the database of growers. You can be prosecuted for 1 plant if the dea really wants to. Until it's legal on a federal level, the less the government knows the better. I stay within my legal limits and have professional electricians set up my electrical work if indoors (although I don't even grow indoors anymore) I just don't want "the man" being up in my business - they can suck a dick. And no, I'm not reading to much into this. I've had top attorneys in colorado who helped write the law here tell me they are trying to push home growers out. You need to open up your eyes to what's really going on instead of being like a little robot just believing and following everything they say.
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So you wouldn't recommend being a caregiver here in Co? Being that they would eventually come into the grow esp with these new ordinances.
 
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ForeverGreen42 said:
I've been growing in colorado under the mmj system for 7 years, been a homeowner for 4 years, so landlords don't have to worry about me.. I've been on this site on different accounts for 6-7 years & have been around growers for 15+ years. I'm not by any means new to the mmj scene & I agree with rkymtn - you are now on the database of growers. You can be prosecuted for 1 plant if the dea really wants to. Until it's legal on a federal level, the less the government knows the better. I stay within my legal limits and have professional electricians set up my electrical work if indoors (although I don't even grow indoors anymore) I just don't want "the man" being up in my business - they can suck a dick. And no, I'm not reading to much into this. I've had top attorneys in colorado who helped write the law here tell me they are trying to push home growers out. You need to open up your eyes to what's really going on instead of being like a little robot just believing and following everything they say.
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Chill dude,I didn't call you dumb or even hint you don't know how to set up a proper grow or call you a newb,I did say I've seen the worst most dangerous grows in pics here that would make a good growers hair stand on end.

I still think your overreacting,you say Colorado is trying to push home growers out,I'm not in Colo so maybe you know something I don't ,can you point to issues that show Colo is pushing home growers out ? all I see in the news about Colo is a state that's laws protecting mj users rights to use are light years ahead of the rest .

Me being a landlord as well as a commercial grower gives me a different perspective,the reasons I hear landlords don't welcome growers are safety issues I understand well,the landlords I've convinced to help home growers by either allowing them to hire a contractor to wire a grow area,or doing it themselves as we do for tenants are now extremely happy to have growers renting from them,growers stay long term & pay rent on time .
 
rkymtnman

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ForeverGreen42 said:
you are now on the database of growers. You can be prosecuted for 1 plant if the dea really wants to. Until it's legal on a federal level, the less the government knows the better.
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exactly!

once you pass the "fire inspection" process, then in a few months, next up comes "the compliance check"

total invasion of privacy IMO. and just more info to be used at a later date. against us, the private growers.

and great point about still illegal on a Federal level. if the DEA gets a hair up their ass, they start the crack-down. those on the "lists" are easy to find and will be first to busted.
 
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ForeverGreen42

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FamMan said:
So you wouldn't recommend being a caregiver here in Co? Being that they would eventually come into the grow esp with these new ordinances.
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Not anymore, no. I use to be a caregiver, but caregivers are now really under the microscope and I think it's just going to get worse from here on out. To each their own though, if you do become a caregiver just make sure you follow the laws to a T.
 
Yodaweed

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Chill dude,I didn't call you dumb or even hint you don't know how to set up a proper grow or call you a newb,I did say I've seen the worst most dangerous grows in pics here that would make a good growers hair stand on end.

I still think your overreacting,you say Colorado is trying to push home growers out,I'm not in Colo so maybe you know something I don't ,can you point to issues that show Colo is pushing home growers out ? all I see in the news about Colo is a state that's laws protecting mj users rights to use are light years ahead of the rest .

Me being a landlord as well as a commercial grower gives me a different perspective,the reasons I hear landlords don't welcome growers are safety issues I understand well,the landlords I've convinced to help home growers by either allowing them to hire a contractor to wire a grow area,or doing it themselves as we do for tenants are now extremely happy to have growers renting from them,growers stay long term & pay rent on time .
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Here's some laws they have passed in the last few years to hurt home grows

1) limited plant count numbers to a max of 12, only 6 can be flowering, no matter your medical recommendation(your medical plant count don't mean anything)
2) limited your growing area, now you can only use 150 square feet
3) made it illegal to make BHO
4) made HPS lights illegal
5) allow the fire dept inspect your grow room whenever they want
 
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ForeverGreen42

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Illinois Enema Bandit said:
Chill dude,I didn't call you dumb or even hint you don't know how to set up a proper grow or call you a newb,I did say I've seen the worst most dangerous grows in pics here that would make a good growers hair stand on end.

I still think your overreacting,you say Colorado is trying to push home growers out,I'm not in Colo so maybe you know something I don't ,can you point to issues that show Colo is pushing home growers out ? all I see in the news about Colo is a state that's laws protecting mj users rights to use are light years ahead of the rest .

Me being a landlord as well as a commercial grower gives me a different perspective,the reasons I hear landlords don't welcome growers are safety issues I understand well,the landlords I've convinced to help home growers by either allowing them to hire a contractor to wire a grow area,or doing it themselves as we do for tenants are now extremely happy to have growers renting from them,growers stay long term & pay rent on time .
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I understand where you are coming from, but I view it exactly like rkymtn said below your post. And with this new election coming up I think being on the radar in anyway is a very bad idea, regardless of who gets elected. I know people who work directly with dispensaries that we're telling me all of the bust in pueblo to denver were due to the dispensary owners paying off the cops. The part that upsets me about that is there were a couple cases where they even prosecuted (or are trying to) people that were completely within their limit, following the laws ( raised plant counts )

Also, like yoda said above me. There's been all sorts of stuff like that happening over the last couple years. I'm all for legalization, but legalization in Colorado for the most part has shitted all over mmj patients.
 
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