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Captain Keg

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Pool boys :) C'mon you just wanted me to say that.
Fuel smugglers in the UK use it to burn out the red or green dye in diesel fuel, turning it clear & fit for road use....
Multimillion £/€ operations over here in Ireland, few caught every year.

Pool boys would use hyprochlorite acid, not hypochloride.
 

curious2garden

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Fuel smugglers in the UK use it to burn out the red or green dye in diesel fuel, turning it clear & fit for road use....
Multimillion £/€ operations over here in Ireland, few caught every year.

Pool boys would use hyprochlorite acid, not hypochloride.
Wrong.... twice; wrong chemical and wrong spelling

Edit: I use hypochlorous in my pool because I use a saline chlorinator.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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cannabineer

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Fuel smugglers in the UK use it to burn out the red or green dye in diesel fuel, turning it clear & fit for road use....
Multimillion £/€ operations over here in Ireland, few caught every year.

Pool boys would use hyprochlorite acid, not hypochloride.
The informed pool boys use hypochlorous acid plus hydrochloric to generate elemental chlorine in situ. However hypochlorous acid is not storable, so it has to be supplied as a salt (calcium hypochlorite is the big one there, and i've seen sodium hypochlorite "shock" solutions. The chlorine tablets etc. are hypochlorous acid stabilized as chloramine derivatives. Trichloro-s-triazine is a big player there, and sodium dichloro-s-triazine is a more "rapid' form of pool chlorine. All tese are stabilized activity of hypochlorous acid. The oxidant property of that entity is the basis for killing the things you do not want in your pool, like algae and mosquitoes.

Bottom line, you want to add a hypochlorous acid precursor AND acid to the pool. Using hydrochloric (muriatic) acid for that job has the elegance of keeping your counterion chloride, and that can be oxidized at some future time to the chlorine that is the payoff of all this pool work.
 

Captain Keg

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Wrong.... twice; wrong chemical and wrong spelling

Edit: I use hypochlorous in my pool because I use a saline chlorinator.
Yeah, I apologise but dyslexia is a real bitch.

wrong yes, wrong twice, no. It's, a common sub for the proper thing. Can't remember what it's called but if you used hydrochloride like you suggested it would be a bit like pouring concentrated bleach into your pool.
All I was pointing out.

The informed pool boys use hypochlorous acid
Bingo!
 

cannabineer

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Yeah, I apologise but dyslexia is a real bitch.

wrong yes, wrong twice, no. It's, a common sub for the proper thing. Can't remember what it's called but if you used hydrochloride like you suggested it would be a bit like pouring concentrated bleach into your pool.
All I was pointing out.



Bingo!
That is exactly what people do. Bleach = hypochlorite. Annie spoke true.
(The bleach is a quick way to sort ammonia issues.)
 

curious2garden

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Yeah, I apologise but dyslexia is a real bitch.

wrong yes, wrong twice, no. It's, a common sub for the proper thing. Can't remember what it's called but if you used hydrochloride like you suggested it would be a bit like pouring concentrated bleach into your pool.
All I was pointing out.



Bingo!
It's becoming obvious you do not own a pool or much knowledge of chemistry, next.
 

Captain Keg

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It's becoming obvious you do not own a pool or much knowledge of chemistry, next.
your not the brightest bulb, but it's ok, pay attention.

That is exactly what people do. Bleach = hypochlorite. Annie spoke true.
(The bleach is a quick way to sort ammonia issues.)
They've the same basic chemical, chlorine & anyone could google it and think they're the same.
But that doesn't mean they're the same.
Bleach has a content of around 5%, pool chlorine is around 65% I think?
That's over 100% strength difference not to mention different chemicals used to make them.

Can be cheaper & easier, using bleach.
But it's just not calcium hyprochlorite chlorine.

Just what I was thinking.
 

srh88

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It's becoming obvious you do not own a pool or much knowledge of chemistry, next.
your not the brightest bulb, but it's ok, pay attention.



They've the same basic chemical, chlorine & anyone could google it and think they're the same.
But that doesn't mean they're the same.
Bleach has a content of around 5%, pool chlorine is around 65% I think?
That's over 100% strength difference not to mention different chemicals used to make them.

Can be cheaper & easier, using bleach.
But it's just not calcium hyprochlorite chlorine.



Just what I was thinking.
Oh shit.. it's on!
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
your not the brightest bulb, but it's ok, pay attention.
Kids today
They've the same basic chemical, chlorine & anyone could google it and think they're the same.
But that doesn't mean they're the same.
Bleach has a content of around 5%, pool chlorine is around 65% I think?
That's over 100% strength difference not to mention different chemicals used to make them.

Can be cheaper & easier, using bleach.
But it's just not calcium hyprochlorite chlorine.



Just what I was thinking.
I made the mistake of assuming that you could calculate concentrations and adjust from there. I will stop upsetting your preconceptions. Have a fine day.
 

curious2garden

Well-Known Mod
Staff member
your not the brightest bulb, but it's ok, pay attention.



They've the same basic chemical, chlorine & anyone could google it and think they're the same.
But that doesn't mean they're the same.
Bleach has a content of around 5%, pool chlorine is around 65% I think?
That's over 100% strength difference not to mention different chemicals used to make them.

Can be cheaper & easier, using bleach.
But it's just not calcium hyprochlorite chlorine.



Just what I was thinking.
LOL you're (it's a contraction), next time you try to insult someone's intelligence police basic spelling and grammar. I'm getting a ZaraBeth vibe from you, @UncleBuck can we get a ruling on whose sock this is please? I'm terrible at sock disambiguation.
 
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