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GroErr
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Cheers @zoic my fellow Canadian
Mostly correct for sure, have never tested it but there's nothing that gets me more tuned, have to take it easy on that stuff even if you have a high tolerance. It's about as concentrated as it gets, Charas is another term for a similar product and Rosin is probably the only thing that could be more potent.Nice thing with finger hash is it's the result of simply trimming your plants, reward for the work put in. The stickier the strain, the more you get out of it. I keep a jar going and continuously burp it just like flowers. It tastes and smells like the flowers it came from, when you mix different strains you get some wicked smells & flavours. Jar on the left is sift/kief, the right is my perpetual finger hash bowl
GroErr
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Nice to see some BR babies out there
You got a skunky male if I remember right, post some updates as they grow up Cheers.
GroErr
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Here's what's coming out in the next 3-6 days 
Blue Ripper x Blue Dream P2, 3 gal, Day 85, tired old gal, just past 12 weeks and will hit 13. Large solid single cola.
Blue Ripper F2/P3, 3 gal, Day 70, ready to pull but was dry so one more and will be pulled. 3 Nice fat colas and a few smaller one's.
Blue Pyramid, 1 gal, Day 45, one more watering and good to go.
Blue Ripper F2/P5, 3 gal, Day 52, one maybe two waterings. Blueberry candy
Blue Ripper x Harlequin F1/P1, 3gal, Day 52, 2 waterings and she'll be done. One of the nicest plants I've hit in a while
Cheers
Blue Ripper x Blue Dream P2, 3 gal, Day 85, tired old gal, just past 12 weeks and will hit 13. Large solid single cola.
Blue Ripper F2/P3, 3 gal, Day 70, ready to pull but was dry so one more and will be pulled. 3 Nice fat colas and a few smaller one's.
Blue Pyramid, 1 gal, Day 45, one more watering and good to go.
Blue Ripper F2/P5, 3 gal, Day 52, one maybe two waterings. Blueberry candy
Blue Ripper x Harlequin F1/P1, 3gal, Day 52, 2 waterings and she'll be done. One of the nicest plants I've hit in a while
Cheers
GroErr
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Here's where I'm going with the next couple of cycles. I'm away for a week at the beginning of the year so I had decided to throw everything I had ready by mid- end of October into flowering so it would finish before I left. Didn't want to deal with flowering plants while I was away. Looks like I'm good there, a few remaining 1gal BPP plants from seed at the back of the flower room will go until end of the year but most of it will be pulled this week/weekend and dry by the time I leave.
To keep things moving, I selected 6x clones which have been in 1 gal pots for ~2 weeks now. Just holding them in the 1 gal's at 16/8 and will up-pot them to 3 gal sometime early next week. They'll get about 2 weeks in 3 gal at 18/6 and be ready to flip when I return. Being freshly transplanted and given a good soak before leaving, my son will water them once middle of the week and they'll be good to go. These are a nice mix of some of my favourite phenos and should all end up 2-3 oz. plants for next round.
The rest of my males and clones are in party cups in the veg cabinet. Several have been super-cropped to generate enough branches that I can cut some clones before leaving. The 6x 1 gal's have been cloned and in the cloner yesterday so they'll be well rooted by the time I get back and can go into party cups. 4x of the clones in party cups will go straight into 2gal pots and will be flipped about 3 weeks after I've flipped the 6x 3gal's to get my perpetual runs going again. When I return I'll be popping a bunch of seeds to SOG after the 6x 3 gal round is finished (3 rounds out). The rest of the clones will just be cloned/culled and sit in the cloner rooting while I'm away. I grabbed another King Cloner I'll setup this weekend so I have enough for 3x clones of each strain/pheno going.
Cheers
To keep things moving, I selected 6x clones which have been in 1 gal pots for ~2 weeks now. Just holding them in the 1 gal's at 16/8 and will up-pot them to 3 gal sometime early next week. They'll get about 2 weeks in 3 gal at 18/6 and be ready to flip when I return. Being freshly transplanted and given a good soak before leaving, my son will water them once middle of the week and they'll be good to go. These are a nice mix of some of my favourite phenos and should all end up 2-3 oz. plants for next round.
The rest of my males and clones are in party cups in the veg cabinet. Several have been super-cropped to generate enough branches that I can cut some clones before leaving. The 6x 1 gal's have been cloned and in the cloner yesterday so they'll be well rooted by the time I get back and can go into party cups. 4x of the clones in party cups will go straight into 2gal pots and will be flipped about 3 weeks after I've flipped the 6x 3gal's to get my perpetual runs going again. When I return I'll be popping a bunch of seeds to SOG after the 6x 3 gal round is finished (3 rounds out). The rest of the clones will just be cloned/culled and sit in the cloner rooting while I'm away. I grabbed another King Cloner I'll setup this weekend so I have enough for 3x clones of each strain/pheno going.
Cheers
GroErr
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So I've been thinking about this theory of lower amount of light/photons/PPFD extending the flowering and there looks to be a correlation right in this round. At least with the COBs as the CMH didn't seem to matter how small or large the footprint was, always finished consistently on the lower end time-wise.
Although I had a total of 600w running at 1400ma across ~3 x 8', the footprints were different and more concentrated on the far end/back of the room. At the back I have 2x T2-1400's but of the newer model with 3x 3590's per bar or 150w each. Those were covering a section about 3 x 3.5'. Towards the front I had 3x T2-1400's @100w each (2x COBs per bar in the older model) spread out further and covering more like 3 x 4.5'.
What got me thinking this was the one's at the back under the 300w over 2x T2-14000's are maturing at normal rates, not extended like the first batch I pulled at the front of the room. That Blue Ripper F2/P3, Blue Dream, JTR and Plemon should have been at least a week less based on previous runs. They were all at the front of the room with 300w spread across a larger footprint.
The Blue Ripper F2/P5, Blue Pyramid, and Blue Ripper x Harlequin will all be pulled around Day 49-55 which is more in line for when they should finish. All 3 of these were at the far end of the room with more concentrated light/photons hitting them than the plants towards the front. Previous pheno of the Blue Pyramid had been finishing at 49-55 days, same as the Harlequin and that Blue Ripper x Harlequin looks, smells and has behaved more like the Harlequin mother so a short run pheno would make some sense.
The other interesting observation and I've seen some posts about this. The plants at the front of the room (less light overall across the 3 x 4.5' footprint) that I've been pulling this week were all very good production for the plant size coming in. So although the run was extended, the production was as good or possibly better. Terps/quality didn't seem affected at all on either end of the room, I have 1x 2gal Blue Ripper F2/P3 at one end, and another 3 gal F2/P3 towards the front, both awesome frost and terps.
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GroErr
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Yeah, didn't click at first that although I was averaging 25w/sq. ft. across the whole room, the back end of the room was actually running at 28w/sq. ft. and the front was more like 22w/sq. ft. So somewhere between there which is ~25w/sq. ft. under 3590's at 1400ma you may see a difference in finish times, but shouldn't affect yield or quality. Not conclusive but not like they had a different environment, medium, feeding etc., only variable was the amount of light hitting them.
I asked in another thread in the LED section talking about PPFD and someone posted seeing similar increases in finish times at lower PPFD's.
Not a biggie in results, just something to keep in mind for my perpetual cycles. An extra week can throw off my incoming plants but knowing it I can make adjustments in veg to suit like holding off an up-pot, reduced lighting schedule etc.
The Rule-of-Three is a guarantee that I'll get to choose the best one, funny how they all root but a slightly different paces/vigor.
Javadog
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Oh yeah....I remember an article that argued that it is not as easy to grow as
people think....it had a photo of a grower smiling, next to his plants, with the
caption "He is only smiling because a tear would throw off his pH".
:0)
GroErr
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For sure, perpetual takes some planning and tweaking as you go. Running multiple strains adds a little more fun into the mix
Once you get to know a pheno you can train them to run a somewhat even canopy. Adding some from seed makes it as much fun as a barrel of monkeys as they used to say 
ttystikk
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My tears are a perfect pH 6.1, and they're a great replacement for Cal-mag.
ttystikk
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Perpetual is easy. Just hit your turns on time.For sure, perpetual takes some planning and tweaking as you go. Running multiple strains adds a little more fun into the mix
Javadog
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GroErr
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Cheers Gquebed
2 more coming out tonight, small 1gal Blue Pyramid, and 3gal Blue Ripper F2/P3. The Blue Ripper told me she was ready last night, one of her colas was bent over lying on the floor - lol
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Gquebed
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HahahahaCheers Gquebed
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Drama queens. Throwing themselves on the floor like that...lol
Say... i noticed something else about COB bud...
Now that my Romulan is dried to 62ish RH in the jars... they are ROCK hard.
I wonder... is the COB light so much different that it could change the cellular structure of the flowers, leaves, stems?
You know how silica beefs up cellular structure... can light do that on its own?
Hard to describe what i mean......
GroErr
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Yeah like I'm done, I'm done! idk the science of how it may change them but there's definitely physical effects going on to make them come out louder in smell/terps and my buds have never been as dense. Even on the side where I ran low w/sq. ft. buds are solid and huge colas. Light definitely has an effect though, think outdoor, same strain/pheno can turn out quite different outdoor vs. indoor so spectrum definitely has physical effects on them, as well as the environment of course.