sixstring2112
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Yeah ro water,its normally around 6 to 8ppm
The COB effect...
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Gquebed
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Thanks. Still dialling in so any tips will help.
captainmorgan
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Most of the time my ppm is 500 to 600.
Abiqua
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I like the input....but one run, really?
Run the same strain for a year solid, then make some conclusions, seriously.
Maybe only humidity affected, maybe only .1 change in pH caused the change, maybe 1extra mg of MG in 1 gallon of soil caused the change, maybe it wanted 30nm less than the 3K it was given....see where I am going,,,,too many variables to have some kind of conclusion from.....1 run.
More data, not analysis.....
fyi, going on 3 years of LED and still running some of the same strains I started with. I am still changing my opinion on LEDs and flowering....
Run the same strain for a year solid, then make some conclusions, seriously.
Maybe only humidity affected, maybe only .1 change in pH caused the change, maybe 1extra mg of MG in 1 gallon of soil caused the change, maybe it wanted 30nm less than the 3K it was given....see where I am going,,,,too many variables to have some kind of conclusion from.....1 run.
More data, not analysis.....
fyi, going on 3 years of LED and still running some of the same strains I started with. I am still changing my opinion on LEDs and flowering....
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Gquebed
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Anybody notice anything with the cobs that they dont like?
IE: it seems to me that the cobs tend to make the plants a bit brittle. I went to chop a nug that had been curing for 3 weeks at 60rh and it sort of exploded/shattered in the scissors... seemed really dry for 60rh.
But the quality of the resin is so good i just look past it.
IE: it seems to me that the cobs tend to make the plants a bit brittle. I went to chop a nug that had been curing for 3 weeks at 60rh and it sort of exploded/shattered in the scissors... seemed really dry for 60rh.
But the quality of the resin is so good i just look past it.
Silver or lead
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In rich dirt. No added calmag.
Tap 390-440>RO 15>cut with rejected water to 90-100>fertilize and ph to 200-400 depending on what the plant says.
It's working really well so far.
Tap 390-440>RO 15>cut with rejected water to 90-100>fertilize and ph to 200-400 depending on what the plant says.
It's working really well so far.
sixstring2112
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Come on man,dont leave me hangin on that last line..."still changing my opinion on leds and flowering"...what do you see,like/dislike ?I like the input....but one run, really?
Run the same strain for a year solid, then make some conclusions, seriously.
Maybe only humidity affected, maybe only .1 change in pH caused the change, maybe 1extra mg of MG in 1 gallon of soil caused the change, maybe it wanted 30nm less than the 3K it was given....see where I am going,,,,too many variables to have some kind of conclusion from.....1 run.
More data, not analysis.....
fyi, going on 3 years of LED and still running some of the same strains I started with. I am still changing my opinion on LEDs and flowering....
Gquebed
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For me, thats all i needed because of the quality/quantity of the resin...I like the input....but one run, really?
Run the same strain for a year solid, then make some conclusions, seriously.
Maybe only humidity affected, maybe only .1 change in pH caused the change, maybe 1extra mg of MG in 1 gallon of soil caused the change, maybe it wanted 30nm less than the 3K it was given....see where I am going,,,,too many variables to have some kind of conclusion from.....1 run.
More data, not analysis.....
fyi, going on 3 years of LED and still running some of the same strains I started with. I am still changing my opinion on LEDs and flowering....
And for all the hassle with hps...cooling fans etc... glad to be done with hps.
a mongo frog
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Can we see what your talking about? We keep hearing about this better quality and more resinous bud, but where is it? Where is the different looking bud?
Gquebed
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Well... if i could take pics with the resolution necessary i would, but dont have the gear or the talent. And even then trolls here would say they were stolen off the interweb
As for the quality, cant convince you without samples of hps and cob with the same strain to offer you... so thats out.
Maybe find somebody who is growing with cob and sample for yourself. Or do what i did... i saw a couple guys on here that respect saying the same thing so i dropped 3.5k on Tasty lights and gave er a go... and found out for myself...
Im not here to convince anybody of anything. This thread is about differences between hps/cobs, good or bad.
So this thread is really just for those who grow with cobs or is thinking about it. If your mind is made up against them there is nothing anybody can say or do... just try yourself and youll see.
I made the move and dont regret it. And that comes after many others have said the same here...
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a mongo frog
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So you have no pics of your cob bud? I really want to see the huge difference. I too dropped the coin and got some cobs, Im just to scared to make jump being how we all know hps quality is off the hook. Just want to see what yourtalkinmg about, this huge difference and all.
Gquebed
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Ill post some pics... but like i said above....
Give your cobs a go. And decide for yourself...
Abiqua
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iam not changing my opinion on whether or not LEDs can grow, just that I continually change my opinion on how they grow.
2700k 3k 4k 5k all grow....
Uv B and its associated band.....and Far Red seem to do nothing but extricate money from piggy.
I keep hearing this uv shit, its bad, ever have a lava lamp or a lightbulb or blacklight. UV-b and Uv-c are bad for us....maybe plants too, that is especially debatable....it can also increase THC production in small amounts...but who the fuck cares...Skittlez won the Emerald Cup this year and wasn;t even in the top 20 of THC % among entrants. [read sig]
People get high and like it. Even without 1st seeing how it looked.....and without being reminded that it is also, UV-free...they dont seem to notice, over and over.....
I have never had cal/mag issues and usually cal isn;t related to a mag deficiency and vice versa
I have gotten exceptionally good harvests occasionly from what would be considered low PPFD 500 or so...
I experience a lot of opposites that are often talked about on here.....
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Gquebed
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MichiganMedGrower
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I am not Mondo and
I am not here to argue about HPS being better. It has some spectrum drawbacks that I have addressed with LEC. And the quality and health of my plants has gone up. It was noticeable to everyone that I didn't tell about the change. They asked.
But I can show HPS only grown buds with frost and health like your examples. I think genetics and the grower will still play a larger role than light.
However. The high, taste and plant health through the cycle is improved in my room with a fuller spectrum so I am sure your beautiful buds have the quality you profess. They look great too.
And now I am wondering about the IR from my bulbs affecting quality. Well a little.
a mongo frog
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No nothing. You were right. The bud you show'd in post #34 was the greatest I've ever seen, under any form of light!!! Sorry I doubted your comments. Cob is the greatest form of light, for someone to think they can grow great bud under anything else is just nonsense and i know that now.
Gquebed
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Like i said...the pics dont do justice.
But what i can say is that the lockout on this run reduced my yield by 30 to 40% of normal. So my trim was obviously reduced too by about the same. However, when i did my hash run with the reduced amount of trim (reduced further by the fact that not a single lower bud was included, as was usual) i almost doubled my hash yield. Almost doubled... i cringe at the thought of what it couldve been had i a full yield.
But more importantly, the buds... as i said, rock solid all the way down to the bottom and i did not mulch a single one for hash. Not one.
PLUS... the bud that i have is so coated with resin that when chopped and rolled up they barely burn. The resin bubbles up and snuffs the cherry...
Maybe guys are doing that with hps, but i never could and i have never seen it any thing of the like in my 40+ years of smoking weed. Nothing like it at all.
So im sold. Just have to dial it all in as solid as my enviroment now.