They SUGGEST pH@5.8 newbie begs to differ pH@5.5 with 6.5max Fluctuation

[MaloMAL]

With all due respect - I really don't know what you're trying to accomplish - the only way to get anything out of an experiment about lst is to keep your plants healthy and yours are not - so it proves nothing. This is a plant 4 weeks from seed and lst'd.
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Dude you using soil papa. Soccer and football arent always the same. Fútbol lmao.....
Man I guess I need to add some dirt in my gallon, maybe ¿ they look gorgeous btw ....

 

[Kevin Pickford]

I don't do it but just at clone into bubbler
. but I start at 5 and gradually move to 5.8 over 48 hrs root cleaning lol

 

[rkymtnman]

My brother please FULLY read in order to comprehend my responses . I said that when I started the pH LAST MONDAY 1/23/17 @5.8 then on SUNDAY 1/29/17 I ended pH @6.4. During this whole time and BEFORE I was experiencing YELLOW. Now on this Monday 1/30/17 I stated the week at a pH of 5.5 and all YELLOWING has disappeared. Now your asking where are the facts. Look at the photo below. Where you CLEARLY SEE GREEN due to the fact I began my pH @5.5 considering that 2.5 weeks prior to changing my pH it was started at 5.8.... I'm also having a healthy pH level since Ive made this adjustement. Now the other plant of the same strain same everything was always set to start at 5.5 and IT NEVER YELLOWED.

i'm reading but i'm not believing that the slight difference b/t 5.5 and 5.8 makes a plant either yellow or green. there are so many other variables: is each bucket the exact same ppm? are the roots in each bucket the exact same? is the strain the exact same in each bucket? is the water temp of each bucket the exact same? see where i'm going with this??

 

[MickFoster]

Dude you using soil papa. Soccer and football are always the same. Fútbol lmao.....
Man I guess I need to add some dirt in my gallon, maybe ¿ they look gorgeous btw ....

First of all, it's not soil it's coco, and if you're doing hydro then your growth should be as fast as mine - certainly faster than soil. Maybe you should add some dirt to your gallon.

 

[MaloMAL]

With all due respect - I really don't know what you're trying to accomplish - the only way to get anything out of an experiment about lst is to keep your plants healthy and yours are not - so it proves nothing. This is a plant 4 weeks from seed and lst'd.
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I hear you man. I was accomplishing more than just what I've expressed. Yes I agree. Explain, how are my plants "unhealthy" ¿ as condescending as your being, you must tell me EXACTLY what I can do to improve this growth from here forward. i mean i don't mind. I'm not offended I'm just curious while being sarcastically animated. Lol ow spit sucka, or "you'll shoot you eye out" , thanks. Currently awaiting

 

[MaloMAL]

With all due respect - I really don't know what you're trying to accomplish - the only way to get anything out of an experiment about lst is to keep your plants healthy and yours are not - so it proves nothing. This is a healthy plant 4 weeks from seed and lst'd. Judging by the growth it disproves your so-called experiment.

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I want to see them all show them all not just your QUEEN BEE smh

 

[MaloMAL]

First of all, it's not soil it's coco, and if you're doing hydro then your growth should be as fast as mine - certainly faster than soil. Maybe you should add some dirt to your gallon.

Oops sorry sir, did I disturb you. Well here's to coco. I can't determine from just a photo your source of medium Mr.1stofALL. Hehehe but really don't be upset where learning here. Like some maniac said " don't come to me with a problem to solve problems, we need solutions, not more issues" LMFAO hahahahahaha really though help a young one out.

 

[MickFoster]

I'm over this idiotic thread. Good luck with your future grows.

Peace.

 

[MaloMAL]

Right as manganese provide the roots with the necessity to combat pathogen from entering the room system while it's developed or developing.to start at the 5.8 range would provide no manganese what so ever. As the chart I've provided shows. Thank you

I don't do it but just at clone into bubbler
. but I start at 5 and gradually move to 5.8 over 48 hrs root cleaning lol

 

[MaloMAL]

i'm reading but i'm not believing that the slight difference b/t 5.5 and 5.8 makes a plant either yellow or green. there are so many other variables: is each bucket the exact same ppm? are the roots in each bucket the exact same? is the strain the exact same in each bucket? is the water temp of each bucket the exact same? see where i'm going with this??

Yes papa if you read some of responses I wrote to Another user everything is the EXACT same. NO NUTRIENTS. Your wrong sir. Look up the science of manganese in a plant and it will INDICATE to you exactly how it DERIVES the exchange in chemicals that keep a plant green. READ READ READ READ. MOST PEOPLE HERE GET INFO FROM JORGE CERVANTA HAHAHAHAHAHA OR CHICH AND CHONG

 

[rkymtnman]

NO NUTRIENTS.

there is your problem. no nutrients. no wonder they are yellow. they need food. you aren't deficient in manganese, you are deficient in everything except pH down i'm guessing.

the only educating you are doing here is proving that plants need food to survive.

here's a chart:

manganese is absorbed from 4.5 all teh way to 9.0 so you are completely wrong.

 

[rkymtnman]

good luck! try to feed the plants next grow and see how they do.

 

[MaloMAL]

there is your problem. no nutrients. no wonder they are yellow. they need food. you aren't deficient in manganese, you are deficient in everything except pH down i'm guessing.

the only educating you are doing here is proving that plants need food to survive.

here's a chart:

manganese is absorbed from 4.5 all teh way to 9.0 so you are completely wrong.

You are so wrong my GUY, GAIN read the responses I've given another user. I also shows that I have took the EXTENSIVE time to research what elements are in my municipical water and the Poland spring bottle. EVERY CHEMICAL used to enrich the water are used as nutrients from a plant. Dude. If that's the case, because with all due respect you aren't full thinking your responses, you'd realize, wait then why didn't the other plant yellow, hmmm. AGAIN, it was starting @5.8 in comparison to the one starting at 5.5. I hear what your saying but that's irrelevant in pertinence to my test considering they are VERY much sufficient nutrients in my water to provide the plant with vigorous SHORT TERM growth. No I'm not wrong either dude. Look at your chart, can't even feed a roach with much manganese LMFAO ¡,,,

 

[MaloMAL]

good luck! try to feed the plants next grow and see how they do.

I will start the feed on them this Friday using general go box. Your really telling me to use nutes on seedlings. I'm going to ignore that for a bit. Lmfao

 

[rkymtnman]

are you kidding? you really think you can grow a plant from start to finish with just water in DWC? please keep posting pics. i can't wait to see what they look like post stretch with no nutes.

since you seem to be up to speed, how many ppms of Manganese does a plant require?

and you plan on using general organics in a dwc? haha. too funny. good luck with that.

i hope the other guy you responded to does the opposite of whatever you told him or his plants will be as deficient as yours.

 

[rkymtnman]

nutes on seedlings

seedlings don't need nutes at all. just use water on those too. you'll be fine. keep posting pics. they make me laugh.

 

[KryptoBud]

What were your PPM's when your leaves starting going yellow?

 

[MaloMAL]

are you kidding? you really think you can grow a plant from start to finish with just water in DWC? please keep posting pics. i can't wait to see what they look like post stretch with no nutes.

since you seem to be up to speed, how many ppms of Manganese does a plant require?

and you plan on using general organics in a dwc? haha. too funny. good luck with that.

i hope the other guy you responded to does the opposite of whatever you told him or his plants will be as deficient as yours.

I never said that at all, dude you have trouble reading sir ¿ really I can't keep re explaining things to you, I do that with my 8 year old with all due respect man. Like I said I W-I-L-L B-E A-D-D-I-N-G N-U-T-E-S T-H-I-S W-E-E-K. They were just under the nutrients provided by the enriched water solution that comes from my municipicals water as they are still SEEDLINGS and they don't need much nutes. They will get their dosage of proper nutrients this week, so I guess you'll be hauling ass waiting for something that won't ever happen and you would've known this by FULLY reading. Sorry andThank you. Keep on giving .

 

[MaloMAL]

What were your PPM's when your leaves starting going yellow?

They began to yellow soon after 4 days from sprout, the other plant pH adjusted at 5.5 never had yellow to begin with. Ever. Same everything again same everything. Water, light, container, Germination method, and environment. PPM 84

 

[MaloMAL]

are you kidding? you really think you can grow a plant from start to finish with just water in DWC? please keep posting pics. i can't wait to see what they look like post stretch with no nutes.

since you seem to be up to speed, how many ppms of Manganese does a plant require?

and you plan on using general organics in a dwc? haha. too funny. good luck with that.

i hope the other guy you responded to does the opposite of whatever you told him or his plants will be as deficient as yours.

Well I have many nutes you tell me which to go with LMFAO. Ima show you what I garden on a spring and summer bases due to poor weather and low climate conditions in MA...