nfhiggs
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Here's the thing - OP's Landlord has been a dick about it in the past already. The new law is not going to suddenly make him not be a dick.
Now legal. Wut 'bout landlord trouble?
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srh88
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if its not in the lease.. cops cant do shit. he can be a dick, but it gives no legal right to kick him out
nfhiggs
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I'm just saying it's NOT worth having the landlord on your ass, legality aside. Whether cops can do anything is not relevant. He will look for anything he can to get you out, including refusing to renew your lease. Even in Cali, the law tends to favor the property owner, despite having some tenant protections..
Tim Fox
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would it not be easier to just move?,,, So many places,
TacoMac
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Precisely.
And the entire universe, contrary to popular belief, does not revolve around California.
Most states have what are called "owners rights". These rights include access to the property they own at any reasonable time.
No, I can't come using my key and entering my house you're leasing at 3 in the morning to see "what's up". But it is perfectly within my rights to pop by at noon one day to check out my property, make sure it's not being abused, service the things I need to such as change the air filters and such, and see to it that the lawn and surrounding areas are being properly cared for.
It is, after all, my property.
And, even under California law there are exceptions as mentioned before.
In the end though, he's changed his story from "I OWN my house!" to going and doing research to try to back up a failed argument. In the end, it's still my property. If you want to relocated your grown every time I give you notice that I'm coming by to inspect my property, are you really going to do that?
No. Of course not. Because you're going to have to relocate that grow every two weeks. That's going to cause you far more grief than it's worth.
Growing being legal in California has nothing to do with an owners rights and what is in the lease agreement. That is why if you are in doubt at all, then you shouldn't do it. That is all I stated from the very beginning until Sir Horses Ass showed up spouting his mouth off about "I OWN my house".
Every two weeks, jesus where you from Auschwitz?
Yumkax8a
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You wouldn't let people grow just because its your property or...???? I mean some of us really do have medical reasons and this is what kills me. Over protective landowners. Hell, my landlord wont even fix the damn kitchen sink. So fuck him.
Prince4118
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my exact reasoning wont fix what needs fixing so i dont care what he says about me growing on his land
Lightgreen2k
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Prince4118
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if i was a land lord the biggest thing that would tip me off would be soil bags bottles of nutes stuff like that laying aroumd
Bakersfield
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I grew in an apartment once or twice. It's hard getting all the equipment in under the snoopy neighbor radar. Then disposal of nutrient jugs has to be done off-site to avoid scrounger snoops.
Lightgreen2k
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@Yumkax8a
All I know are there are grow tents. They can be sent to a ups ship address.
3x3 veg and 4x4x8 bloom is relatively small. Smart pots are flat and can fit in a grocery bags. If you have seeds to start from fine. Some type of soiless medium and go.
In a 4x4 you can fit a carbon filter/ stealth inline fan. Whatever light you choose. With 3 plants you could use a five or seven gallon size.
All I know are there are grow tents. They can be sent to a ups ship address.
3x3 veg and 4x4x8 bloom is relatively small. Smart pots are flat and can fit in a grocery bags. If you have seeds to start from fine. Some type of soiless medium and go.
In a 4x4 you can fit a carbon filter/ stealth inline fan. Whatever light you choose. With 3 plants you could use a five or seven gallon size.
TacoMac
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Again, it's not about me being suspicious. I'm talking about something as simple as the off chance I pop by. It's just that easy for things to get going the wrong way.
Things that HAVE made me come over though are neighbors and the police. People see people smoking pot, or coming and going in the wee hours of the morning. Those people call the police. The police then usually call me, tell me what's going on and ask permission to enter the house and take a look.
I've never said no to them.
Again, your best bet is to have a talk with your landlord. If it is legal where you are, you need to find the statute and print it out. Set up a meeting with your landlord about it. In person is much better than over the phone. Tell and show him/her the law, what you want to do, how you're going to do it. You'll stress it's for your personal use, it will in no way damage the property and it is in fact like growing tomatoes.
You show him that, you'll almost always get the green light.
6ixtynin9
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Sorry brother, assuming and obviously, you are referring to yourself - regardless if growing in a "REC" state or even MED state "within the boundries of the law", you can't own, associate with, or be around "cold steel". Your "legal" grow has just become illegal. Not too wise to openly admit to doing something illegal like that on a public forum.
greg nr
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I own, but to be honest when I see some of the "grow rooms" on youtube, I would cringe if I owned those spaces as a landlord. They put a wet farming operation in carpeted rooms, triple stress the electrical, create fire hazards, and generally trash the rooms they grow in (walls and ceilings included).
For those reasons alone I would put a restriction in the lease and enforce it if I found someone being a pig.
On the other hand, if someone asked upfront, and limited it to unfinished spaces or was willing to put up a large security binder, I would give them a chance. Trying to sneak it by me wouldn't put me in a good mood.
For those reasons alone I would put a restriction in the lease and enforce it if I found someone being a pig.
On the other hand, if someone asked upfront, and limited it to unfinished spaces or was willing to put up a large security binder, I would give them a chance. Trying to sneak it by me wouldn't put me in a good mood.
Johnny Lawrence
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It's official: You are the world's shittiest landlord. How about giving your tenants some privacy?
As to the rest of this thread, you can break down a small tent in under a couple of hours. Uhauls cost $30 to rent for the day, and the uhaul places generally have boxes big enough for full size plants. If it even came down to that. I had to do it once about 10 years ago - pain in the ass, but it's manageable. And that was with a framed up room.
Johnny Lawrence
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You're not allowed in the house if you happen to just "pop by".
6ixtynin9
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Medical reasons or not, that's none of the landlord's business. They are NOT obligated to allow you to grow, even for medical reasons. In fact, it quite the opposite - They can kick you out if they find out that you are growing. 80% of CA Landlords are more hesitant, even denying rentals to growers. This is just the honest truth so sorry if you can't handle it. Landlords HAVE to be "over protective". You wouldn't want to rent out your $100,000 - $300,000 house to some kid who might burn down your investment, would you? And if your landlord will not fix your kitchen sink, file a complaint with the CA branch RPA (Rental Protection Agency). It's always best to be up front with your landlord about growing, that way there's no discrepancy.
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Tim Fox
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well you need to come up with some links,, such as OLCC Oregon Web links, that state the laws concering MJ growing,, other wise you are just speaking to speak,, got any fact to back that up
Tim Fox
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I dont have any grows going at this time,, chop down was a few weeks ago