Sean Spicer Says Even Hitler Would Not Use Gas..

greg nr

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This is still BASIC history..isn't it?
No, thats just the "jews history" as they call it. An alternate history in their world doesn't acknowledge the holocaust. But don't worry, they will correct what the government schools teach.
 

Padawanbater2

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@Padawanbater2 @schuylaar @thewhole muppet crew who were also part of this crowd ^^^^^^^^
No, I disagree. We were the only ones calling her out for her policy positions; like supporting the Iraq War and the Patriot Act. NAFTA, only supporting a $12.00/hour minimum wage when progressives dragged her to it, didn't support single payer healthcare, supporting the TPP, etc. I can't recall ever bringing up her emails, and I definitely recall Sanders exclaiming during one of the first debates "Enough about the damn emails!", not to mention endorsing her against Trump..

Is it totally unbelievable to you that actual progressives would disagree with Clinton based on her voting record and previous policy positions when she was first lady?
 

londonfog

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No, I disagree. We were the only ones calling her out for her policy positions; like supporting the Iraq War and the Patriot Act. NAFTA, only supporting a $12.00/hour minimum wage when progressives dragged her to it, didn't support single payer healthcare, supporting the TPP, etc. I can't recall ever bringing up her emails, and I definitely recall Sanders exclaiming during one of the first debates "Enough about the damn emails!", not to mention endorsing her against Trump..

Is it totally unbelievable to you that actual progressives would disagree with Clinton based on her voting record and previous policy positions when she was first lady?
Given the choice of Trump or Clinton, you decided to keep putting Clinton down. Save the rest of your mumble jumble for your other muppets. Energy you created and co-signed gave us Trump and our new corporate SCOTUS.
You fucked 12 an hour let along that 15. Learn to fucking pick your battles muppet
 

Padawanbater2

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Given the choice of Trump or Clinton, you decided to keep putting Clinton down. Save the rest of your mumble jumble for your other muppets. Energy you created and co-signed gave us Trump and our new corporate SCOTUS.
You fucked 12 an hour let along that 15. Learn to fucking pick your battles muppet
Why begin the conversation at the point it was down to Clinton v. Trump? For one, its your opinion that talking objectively about her background and voting record affected her detrimentally, for two there was a long time before that point where there were many more options to choose from. People like you ensured Clinton was the Democratic candidate, and 9% of Democrats voted for Trump.

So maybe take some responsibility for the candidate you voted for
 

londonfog

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Why begin the conversation at the point it was down to Clinton v. Trump? For one, its your opinion that talking objectively about her background and voting record affected her detrimentally, for two there was a long time before that point where there were many more options to choose from. People like you ensured Clinton was the Democratic candidate, and 9% of Democrats voted for Trump.

So maybe take some responsibility for the candidate you voted for
I was fine with either Clinton or Sanders. When Sanders decided he could not win nor go any further, he decided to be with her. You decided to continue to bash her.
When it came down to the final two choices for this country, you decided to go against the one Sanders was for. The only one you had a chance to give you that permanent 15 an hour.
Clinton would not have picked this SCOTUS. Are you proud for creating such negative energy against yourself.
I hate hate hate Trump, but I'm still going to make lots of money while this fool is in office. What about you ? You think Trump will bump his head and make 15 an hour minimum wage...lol
 

Fogdog

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He was corrected and then did a double down mumble about how Hitler didn't go into town to kill innocents.

No..he just rounded them up, loaded them on a train:wall:
Hitler didn't use sarin or drop it on his people from aircraft. That also seemed to be important to Spicer.

We'll have to ask our pet holocaust deniers whether or not Jews in 1930-1945 Hitler Germany were "his people". This may be a fine point but Spicer could be right about that.

It's fitting that the worst US president ever has the worst press secretary ever.
 

Fogdog

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No, I disagree. We were the only ones calling her out for her policy positions; like supporting the Iraq War and the Patriot Act. NAFTA, only supporting a $12.00/hour minimum wage when progressives dragged her to it, didn't support single payer healthcare, supporting the TPP, etc. I can't recall ever bringing up her emails, and I definitely recall Sanders exclaiming during one of the first debates "Enough about the damn emails!", not to mention endorsing her against Trump..

Is it totally unbelievable to you that actual progressives would disagree with Clinton based on her voting record and previous policy positions when she was first lady?
None of the policy positions you name are worse than what Trump is enacting.

You got it wrong on one point, Clinton did support single payer healthcare. Pushing this legislation early in Bill's administration was a debacle that brought in Gingrich and the "contract with America" Congress. Once burned, twice shy.
 

Padawanbater2

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You decided to continue to bash her.
Criticizing her policy positions is "bashing her?
When it came down to the final two choices for this country, you decided to go against the one Sanders was for.
I didn't go against anyone, I simply didn't support either candidate, so I didn't vote for either. If I voted for Trump, your point would be valid. You can find just as many criticisms against Trump from me as you can against Clinton.

When it came down to the Democratic primary, you decided to go with the only candidate who could lose to Trump, something all the Sanders supporters were telling you before the primary was over.

None of the policy positions you name are worse than what Trump is enacting.
Didn't say they were - that'd be a strawman
You got it wrong on one point, Clinton did support single payer healthcare.

If she thinks single payer will "never, ever come to pass", she doesn't support it
 

Padawanbater2

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How is that "bashing her"? Were all the left wing media outlets "bashing her" too when they reported on that or just me?
https://www.rollitup.org/t/clinton-campaign-invites-20-mainstream-reporters-to-dinner.925300/
Again, how is that "bashing her"? A presidential campaign that meets behind closed doors with members of mainstream media organizations is a pretty clear umbrella issue that affects many different policies including campaign finance reform and foreign and domestic policy. The job of the media is to be objective not give special treatment to the boss (or expected) boss in charge, like they're currently doing with the way the Trump administration is handling Syria: see Brian Williams' report about the attack, this coming from a supposidly 'left-wing' commentator on MSNBC. He called it "beautiful". That's the kind of "objective" reporting you get from corporate shills like Brian Williams and every journalist on the Clinton campaigns 'invite' list during the campaign.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/dnc-chair-donna-brazile-repeatedly-leaked-debate-questions-to-clinton-campaign.925510/
And she admitted to it, and apologized for it, something you still haven't ever actually acknowledged. We were right, you were wrong, even Brazile herself said so.

They cheated during the primary, calling it out is not "bashing her", so that'd be strike 3 sport, you're out
 
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UncleBuck

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How is that "bashing her"? Were all the left wing media outlets "bashing her" too when they reported on that or just me?Again, how is that "bashing her"? A presidential campaign that meets behind closed doors with members of mainstream media organizations is a pretty clear umbrella issue that affects many different policies including campaign finance reform and foreign and domestic policy. The job of the media is to be objective not give special treatment to the boss (or expected) boss in charge, like they're currently doing with the way the Trump administration is handling Syria: see Brian Williams' report about the attack, this coming from a supposidly 'left-wing' commentator on MSNBC. He called it "beautiful". That's the kind of "objective" reporting you get from shills like Brian Williams and every journalist on the Clinton campaigns 'invite' list during the campaign.And she admitted to it, and apologized for it, something you still haven't ever actually acknowledged. We were right, you were wrong, even Brazile herself said so.

They cheated during the primary, calling it out is not "bashing her", so try that'd be strike 3 sport, you're out

that was bashing her.

trump got questions from fox news, invited press to mar-a-lago, and his health was a serious question mark and what did you do? bashed hillary.

none of that had one iota to do with her policy positions either.
 

Padawanbater2

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that was bashing her.
Right, we both understand you believe me and every other left-wing mainstream media outlet reporting on her health was "bashing her". We are also both aware you believe questioning the Clinton campaign's decision to invite multiple members of the mainstream media to a dinner behind closed doors is "basing her". Finally, we both know you believe reporting on Donna Brazile's misconduct during the Democratic primary that she admitted to and apologized for is also "bashing her", somehow..

You haven't explained why


Why do you believe asking about Clinton's health was "bashing her"?

Why do you believe reporting on the closed doors dinner was "bashing her"?

Why do you believe reporting on Brazile's misconduct was "bashing her"?

trump got questions from fox news, invited press to mar-a-lago, and his health was a serious question mark and what did you do? bashed hillary.
I would condemn Trump for receiving debate questions ahead of time exactly the same, because I'm consistent about it affecting democracy. You know who's not consistent? YOU! When I brought this to attention, you scoffed at me for daring to criticize your dear leader and brushed it off as no big deal, justification being they were holding the debate in Michigan and the question Brazile leaked was about the water crisis (also about capital punishment, but you've never addressed that either). Same thing with the attempt at wooing the press behind closed doors, same thing about his health, although I never saw any reason to question it like I did with Clinton when she had to be carried into a vehicle by staff.
none of that had one iota to do with her policy positions either.
So where's the posts where I ever called Clinton a "cunt", "bitch", "whore", etc.? Half the things you call people here everyday? Can you even find a single one? Every single post I've ever made about how terrible I thought a candidate she was affected her policy positions.

Prove me wrong
 

ttystikk

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no you're not because you didn't.

and clinton never got any debate questions ahead of time. brazile discussed possible debate topics with her. lots of them. mostr of which never even came up.

you're a shit-weasel hypocrite.
Your ire is unconvincing.

We have the right to criticize the policy positions of our would-be leaders, indeed, as citizens we have the responsibility to do so.

Your blind subservience to the Democratic Party Establishment even in the face of legitimate criticism is costing you credibility.
 

UncleBuck

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Your ire is unconvincing.

We have the right to criticize the policy positions of our would-be leaders, indeed, as citizens we have the responsibility to do so.

Your blind subservience to the Democratic Party Establishment even in the face of legitimate criticism is costing you credibility.
since when is hillary clinton getting pneumonia a policy position?
 

Padawanbater2

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no you're not because you didn't.
If Trump received debate questions ahead of time, I would condemn it, just like I did with Clinton (you wouldn't though, so why do you believe it's wrong when Trump does it but not when Clinton does it?)

I'm pretty active when it comes to American politics, so it's pretty rare for me to miss a major political story. I've never heard anything about Trump receiving debate questions ahead of time. So that'd be the reason I never acknowledged it if it happened.

Would you happen to have any evidence?

and clinton never got any debate questions ahead of time. brazile discussed possible debate topics with her. lots of them. mostr of which never even came up.
Then why will Donna Brazile "forever regret" giving debate questions to the Clinton campaign?
 
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