What did you accomplish today?

lokie

Well-Known Member
Have you been so fucked up on booze and weed that you stare at your own eyes in the mirror, and demand that they work correctly, and they refuse? Daughters are away, daddy gonna paly/pay.
Grandparents took daughters out of town today through Christmas, got the house all cleaned up and started the party this afternoon.
I could have sex now if I wanted it, but really would prefer sleep, now I know I've been married too long...
Yeah. It's a real bitch sometimes.
 

Lucky Luke

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Didn't the Germans kill more Russians than they did Jews?
Some estimate approx. 15 million more. But that was in war it wasn't a systematic killing of a race. Although the Germans at one point were ordered to not take prisoners. They could not feed them, transport them or properly guard them. So large numbers of captured Russians were simply shot. I would imagine the Russians would of done the same.
I haven't read much about the war from just the Russian perspective. Sure the moving of basically everything deep into Russian territory and the shear amount of just tanks that they produced was astonishing. The loss of life they sustained from the German forces and their own, let alone starvation was huge.

If Russia had of invaded Japan before the Japanese had managed to surrender to the Americans then the Korean peninsula would look very different today...

Sorry my thoughts jump around.
 

Lucky Luke

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There were no laws on the books requiring one to hand over Jews in either France or in the occupying power. It was German state policy to round up and burn the Jews. When a citizen is told "turn in the Jews or get treated as one" the idea of it being voluntary becomes an ugly farce. Since you are doubling down on the ugly farce of technical choice where there is no real choice, you are supporting the policy with the same sort of doublethink the executors of the policy used.
I can see where your coming from. But lots were not threated..they just handed them over willingly. I imagine it was also good for some peoples business to get rid of the competition over night. In the early part of the occupation, Germany didn't have much of an interest in France except for their food and vehicles (even tractors and cars were taken) Remember Germany was having trouble feeding itself and was largely a horse an cart army, despite what war movies make out. This hodge podch of vehicles the army used was one of the reasons it was not very efficient and had to have very small supply lines.

It doesn't look like we will reach common ground on this issue, and that's OK. As far as I'm concerned France voluntarily handed over their Jewish population, like by the sounds of it other occupied countries did.
You are of the belief they didn't have a choice in the matter.

l don't think we are going to be changing each others minds on the subject. Lets move on shall we?
 

lokie

Well-Known Member
I can see where your coming from. But lots were not threated..they just handed them over willingly. I imagine it was also good for some peoples business to get rid of the competition over night. In the early part of the occupation, Germany didn't have much of an interest in France except for their food and vehicles (even tractors and cars were taken) Remember Germany was having trouble feeding itself and was largely a horse an cart army, despite what war movies make out. This hodge podch of vehicles the army used was one of the reasons it was not very efficient and had to have very small supply lines.

It doesn't look like we will reach common ground on this issue, and that's OK. As far as I'm concerned France voluntarily handed over their Jewish population, like by the sounds of it other occupied countries did.
You are of the belief they didn't have a choice in the matter.

l don't think we are going to be changing each others minds on the subject. Lets move on shall we?
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Grandpapy

Well-Known Member
I can see where your coming from. But lots were not threated..they just handed them over willingly. I imagine it was also good for some peoples business to get rid of the competition over night. In the early part of the occupation, Germany didn't have much of an interest in France except for their food and vehicles (even tractors and cars were taken) Remember Germany was having trouble feeding itself and was largely a horse an cart army, despite what war movies make out. This hodge podch of vehicles the army used was one of the reasons it was not very efficient and had to have very small supply lines.

It doesn't look like we will reach common ground on this issue, and that's OK. As far as I'm concerned France voluntarily handed over their Jewish population, like by the sounds of it other occupied countries did.
You are of the belief they didn't have a choice in the matter.

l don't think we are going to be changing each others minds on the subject. Lets move on shall we?
Most we're hungry.
Sessions could shut down the Pot industry with a little help from the Ag Industry.
My neighbor would turn me in for a hamburger and a bag of rice.

Just food for thought.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I can see where your coming from. But lots were not threated..they just handed them over willingly. I imagine it was also good for some peoples business to get rid of the competition over night. In the early part of the occupation, Germany didn't have much of an interest in France except for their food and vehicles (even tractors and cars were taken) Remember Germany was having trouble feeding itself and was largely a horse an cart army, despite what war movies make out. This hodge podch of vehicles the army used was one of the reasons it was not very efficient and had to have very small supply lines.

It doesn't look like we will reach common ground on this issue, and that's OK. As far as I'm concerned France voluntarily handed over their Jewish population, like by the sounds of it other occupied countries did.
You are of the belief they didn't have a choice in the matter.

l don't think we are going to be changing each others minds on the subject. Lets move on shall we?
Germany didn't have nuch of an interest in ... ??

They conquered them years after their leadership agreed on and began implementing their campaign to exterminate the Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, disabled and a plethora of other non-Aryans. It was not lacking interest, but deferred interest, to be paid with interest once the Reich had its pesky eastern front issue settled.

So with your continued sly defense of Nazi leadership, I agree that we have arrived at the sort of impasse created by your adherence to alternate history.
 

Possum1

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Well last night wasn't my proudest moment, but it was fun while it lasted. Up and running today trimming doors and maybe start on baseboard trim, if I'm feeling really ambitious. But I really haven't accomplished anything yet, (except play with the dog) so I guess my post is preemptive. Have a good one RIU.
 
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