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BigHornBuds

BigHornBuds

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ACitizenofColorado said:
It's funny that you don't realize I said medical or critical. You seem to think I was talking about a medical market. Are there critical marijuana markets? You're assuming that I was talking about a medical market yet you are failing to resolve whether or not there are critical markets. Your interpretation of my statement only makes sense if you do not quote me fully, and leave out the fact that I said "medical or critical." You should quote me directly so as to avoid this confusion.

I would ask you to actually read what I wrote, not someone else's summary. I posted the original message and an edit which clarified my position before you wrote this. You're taking what I said out of context. Every single discussion of a medical use was related to whytewidow's comment. He lives in a state which does not have any form of weed. Both he and I were using medical in the context of the desired end us, not the method of growing or procurement.

I was not saying that whytewidow, as a person living in state with no legal weed, was operating a licensed medical facility. I was saying that if you operate under the assumption that every one of your customers uses weed for some critical or medical reason, you are less inclined to cut corners. Knowing your product will be used for a patient with a severe medical issue, whether or not one is in a legal state and getting product through a medical dispensary, makes one less inclined to screw your customers.

It's not just a dude growing to move as much product as possible, in which case ripping him off would represent a certain level of depravity. If the producer beings with the assumption that every end user has a medical or critical issue, like cancer, childhood epilepsy, aids, etc, it represents an entirely different level of depravity to not implement strict quality controls.

In short, just above someone talked about a stardawg bx1. Why would Gu test it? Why not just breed the seeds, never test them once, and send them to everyone?

Why would Gu implement stricter quality controls for his work than for the work of others?

My point was that if Gu knew every one of his seeds might be going to a kid with cancer, he would be more likely to implement strict quality control measures.

I'm glad we can agree on 90% of things though. The other 10% appears to have been a miscommunication. There is no such thing as a critical market. My words were "medical or critical." Your interpretation of my statement only makes sense if you leave that fact out.
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If I give you a pack of seeds will you let it go?
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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THT said:
update. took a close look at GG and I think I may have some male parts showing *edit* in addition to female parts. It's still early so I'll give it time,
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Looks girl to me but as i said.i have seen weird boy parts on the lower first main stems and than all the rest start to turn female.i have had plants I could have sworn were gonna be male than all of a sudden all out female.
 
Tangerine_

Tangerine_

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ACitizenofColorado said:
You read it? What did you think about the part where a child with seizures will go without medicine? Are that guy and that kid to be ignored as well? Do you think his post was too long too?

Gu should begin with the assumption that every single sale is for a medical or critical issue.
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Are you for real? No one... and I mean NO ONE providing medical cannabis for a child with a chronic condition is going to provide meds they haven't had tested. This requires hunting, testing and running certain phenos several times before doing a production run. And even then, its usually made into micro dose edibles or some type of sublingual...not flowers.

Furthermore, parents of sick children do not let the health and well being of their child rest in just anyones hands. If whytewidow is truly providing meds for a child with chronic illness, surely he already has a line he uses in production. How bout you let just let him speak for himself.

IF someone plans to use the "sick child with seizures" or "cancer patient" as some fucked up twisted way to add validity to their opinion they damn well better know what the fuck they're talking about.

I've worked as a medical professional for many yrs, had a child with cancer, and recently lost a child.
Posts like yours are just flat out willfully ignorant.

If has little to do with the current issues and more to do with you being butthurt about not being able to buy single seeds. GTFOH with that shit.
 
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Tangerine_

Tangerine_

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ACitizenofColorado said:
It's funny that you don't realize I said medical or critical. You seem to think I was talking about a medical market. Are there critical marijuana markets? You're assuming that I was talking about a medical market yet you are failing to resolve whether or not there are critical markets. Your interpretation of my statement only makes sense if you do not quote me fully, and leave out the fact that I said "medical or critical." You should quote me directly so as to avoid this confusion.

I would ask you to actually read what I wrote, not someone else's summary. I posted the original message and an edit which clarified my position before you wrote this. You're taking what I said out of context. Every single discussion of a medical use was related to whytewidow's comment. He lives in a state which does not have any form of weed. Both he and I were using medical in the context of the desired end us, not the method of growing or procurement.

I was not saying that whytewidow, as a person living in state with no legal weed, was operating a licensed medical facility. I was saying that if you operate under the assumption that every one of your customers uses weed for some critical or medical reason, you are less inclined to cut corners. Knowing your product will be used for a patient with a severe medical issue, whether or not one is in a legal state and getting product through a medical dispensary, makes one less inclined to screw your customers.

It's not just a dude growing to move as much product as possible, in which case ripping him off would represent a certain level of depravity. If the producer beings with the assumption that every end user has a medical or critical issue, like cancer, childhood epilepsy, aids, etc, it represents an entirely different level of depravity to not implement strict quality controls.

In short, just above someone talked about a stardawg bx1. Why would Gu test it? Why not just breed the seeds, never test them once, and send them to everyone?

Why would Gu implement stricter quality controls for his work than for the work of others?

My point was that if Gu knew every one of his seeds might be going to a kid with cancer, he would be more likely to implement strict quality control measures.

I'm glad we can agree on 90% of things though. The other 10% appears to have been a miscommunication. There is no such thing as a critical market. My words were "medical or critical." Your interpretation of my statement only makes sense if you leave that fact out.
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OMFG...Just stop. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Just how long do you think a child with cancer has to wait around? It takes time to find a cannabis strain with significant consistent medical properties. Time to grow that strain out. Time to have that strain properly tested. Time a "child with cancer" DOES NOT HAVE!!
Even if this were for an adult that needs palliative care its not done with seed runs.

And the due diligence is on the provider as well as the patient...NOT on the seed maker. And in this instance the seed maker actually offers a CBD isolate. So there's that.

None of the other seedbanks I deal with offer this, so again, you are way off the mark.
 
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rikdabrick

rikdabrick

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@whytewidow
@ACitizenofColorado
@Anybody else who grows for people with legit medical needs

If you have people that have real medical conditions with particular needs, i.e. anti-seismic qualities for seisures, etc., you don't depend on seed runs to meet those needs because you have no idea if it's actually going to help the person(s) or not. Seed plants can be all over the place as far as medical usefulness goes. After you grow out a seed plant and test it via ingestion then you and/or your patient type folk can determine if it will be useful for a medical user and then you can continue to grow the useful plants from clones and discard the less medically useful plants. If your depending on seed runs (of high THC strains nonetheless) for kids with seisures then you're doing it wrong.

If I have people with particular medical needs I do not recommend new strains that haven't been tested. I have my staple strains for that. Seed runs are for finding new staples. So in reality every seed doesn't have to be sold like it's going straight to the Shriners Hospital.

And you really should pick higher CBD varieties for seisures as well as a host of other medical conditions.

So one could take a couple different positions in this scenario:
A. There's some ignorant growers in the world who depend on seed run plants for people with legit and possibly serious medical conditions (AKA Really bad medical grower)

B. There's some people who try to find extra excuses to why they've been done such a GREAT injustice (Pitiful grower)

Don't get me wrong, fem seeds should be female and if they're not, a refund is in order, but pulling out the "kids with seisures depend on my high THC seed run plants" card is a little much or a sign of an incredibly ignorant grower.

And just FYI, second and third hand stories aren't legal testimony. It's referred to as gossip after first person testimony.

Really, I don't care too much besides a couple people have thrown out some ridiculous statements to justify their position.

And I don't have any hard feelings towards anybody in this thread, also just FYI.
 
rikdabrick

rikdabrick

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Tangerine_ said:
Are you for real? No one... and I mean NO ONE providing medical cannabis for a child with a chronic condition is going to provide meds they haven't had tested. This requires hunting, testing and running certain phenos several times before doing a production run. Furthermore, parents of sick children do not let the health and well being of their child rest in just any ones hands. If white is truly providing meds for a sick child surely he already has a line he uses in production. I'd rather you just let him speak for himself.

IF someone plans to use the "sick child with seizures" or "cancer patient" as some fucked up twisted way to add validity to their opinion they damn well better know what the fuck they're talking about.

I've worked as a medical professional for many yrs, had a child with cancer, and recently lost a child.
Posts like yours are repulsive.

If has little to do with the current issues (so far ONLY seen with Wedding Cake) and more to do with you being butthurt about not being able to buy single seeds. GTOF with that shit.
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You beat me to it. I just posted the same thing. I guess someone should tell these guys this is common knowledge for actual medical growers.
 
rikdabrick

rikdabrick

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And @ACitizenofColorado just some friendly advise, if you can, you should try to do whole packs of GPS crosses, or at minimum half packs. After doing a few different varieties I put GPS in the same category as Bodhi in what I expect from the results of the females. No bad plants and at least 1 keeper per pack.

On my last run I had:
About 5 Purple Badlands females. All were good plants with at least one being excellent (AKA a keeper). I need to run some again for a better review.

6 or so Jamokas. All were good plants, 1 was really nice and 1 was excellent

2 Raindance. One was really nice, one was excellent.

So if I only got a couple seeds of each I might not have come across the excellent ones and wondered what all the hype is about (not really though because I'd know the sample size was too small to make any decent judgement whatsoever hence one reason I don't buy single seeds)

If you're growing in a small closet or something than you might not be able to do whole pack runs, but I think you'll have an easier time finding what you're looking for if you can
 
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sourgummy

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Tangerine_ said:
Your post is undoubtedly more coherent than mine. I haven't slept right in months and not at all in the last couple of days. Not to mention yesterday really fucking sucked so I'm not exactly at my sharpest right now.​



Tis might piss a few people off but I'll be the first to admit the whole "I provide for a sick child or cancer patient" really vexes me when its used against seed makers and breeders because a few seeds failed.

I've seen the same thing happen to Bodhi and that man provides his high CBD crosses at no charge.

The real providers do their homework and spend a great deal of time and money to provide the best meds possible. They're very selective and don't buy seeds based on hype or flavor of the month. And lets face it...that's why the majority of people bought these S1s.
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Anyone thought it was weird a medical person providing for a child with seizures would drop 1 grand on seeds with no info behind them, just hype????? Smells like bs to me. And there is like no medical value behind gg4.Its just a rec strain mainly. He's obviously selling that cause no medical person can afford 1 grand only on seeds.
 
predd

predd

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On a side note, I found this in a pack of foul mouth from DVG( which I purchased from GP at a great price) It was really slow in veg, but I've found most DVG gear that way( I popped 9 citrus farmer...6 males on the trot so far). My question would be to the pheno experts, does this look like a ogkb pheno? It's super squat with tight internodes. Also I have 6 mimosa and 4 purple punch ready to take cuttings. so I will flower them soon and see if I get any full males.....20180514_072831[1].jpg
 
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predd said:
On a side note, I found this in a pack of foul mouth from DVG( which I purchased from GP at a great price) It was really slow in veg, but I've found most DVG gear that way( I popped 9 citrus farmer...6 males on the trot so far). My question would be to the pheno experts, does this look like a ogkb pheno? It's super squat with tight internodes. Also I have 6 mimosa and 4 purple punch ready to take cuttings. so I will flower them soon and see if I get any full males.....View attachment 4135712
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I got some humble pie seedlings going now and from what I have heard, if you got the duckfoot leaves going on, that is OGKB
 
Tangerine_

Tangerine_

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My Bandit Breath did the same thing. Its got those weird duckfoot leaves and is slow AF in veg but the smoke is really good so I deal. The first set of clones were the worst with really strange side growth but this third set looks much better.
 
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