Soon, the world will be burning 100 million barrels of oil EVERY DAY

[Unclebaldrick]

Lol?

Where did your post go, Roger?

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Roger, look into it. When a new factory opens in the developing world do people flee it or move to it?

By the way, I am on the news. In real life I am Wolf Blitzer. Please keep that under your MAGA hat.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Hey @rolli , Roger seems very upset in PM about my "reporting" his post. I did not report his post and have no problem with it other than the fact that it is comically incorrect. Can you please set him straight?

I have no objection to his post. This is politics; I am an asshole here. It is the state of the union.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

I used to have a mother in law that enjoyed the Riviera Maya going back 20 years or so. Every year she would return and moan about how less quaint it was; how the cute native villages were starting to look like suburbs with tv satellite dishes and road congestion. How the "natives" no longer wore traditional garb etc.. But at the end of her stay she would go back to her posh condo in the large American city to catch up on what she missed on cable or use her high speed internet to get back to her business of selling $30,000 mid-century lamps to yuppies. She fully expected these people to remain quaint in order to make her vacation more enjoyable. This is utterly patronizing and certainly seems as if she looked down her surgically enhanced nose at these people as props in her annual retreat.

Is there an argument to be made that life was better when things were simple? Yes, there is. But if you are making that argument on a computer using high speed Internet you have already half lost that argument.

@ttystikk , you can still eat raw every day. Just call the electric company and turn it off. The same with Internet and gas. Go forage for food and wood to burn. Get rid of your hot tub and go find a nice little spring to wash your balls in. You are an effete Progressive, cultural imperialist otherwise.

 

[gwheels]

When I was a kid my folks and I lived for about 6 months on the Malaysian island of Penang, at the time a relatively undeveloped island. We had exactly one light bulb for electricity. No stove, rather a fire pit. No refrigerator, we ate fresh every day. The neighbors were good people who helped us and we helped them.

The island has a Dell Computer assembly plant on it now, along with two bridges to the mainland and half a million population. Its rural isolated charm is gone forever.

Now that is some crazy shit.

 

[Fogdog]

I used to have a mother in law that enjoyed the Riviera Maya going back 20 years or so. Every year she would return and moan about how less quaint it was; how the cute native villages were starting to look like suburbs with tv satellite dishes and road congestion. How the "natives" no longer wore traditional garb etc.. But at the end of her stay she would go back to her posh condo in the large American city to catch up on what she missed on cable or use her high speed internet to get back to her business of selling $30,000 mid-century lamps to yuppies. She fully expected these people to remain quaint in order to make her vacation more enjoyable. This is utterly patronizing and certainly seems as if she looked down her surgically enhanced nose at these people as props in her annual retreat.

Is there an argument to be made that life was better when things were simple? Yes, there is. But if you are making that argument on a computer using high speed Internet you have already half lost that argument.

@ttystikk , you can still eat raw every day. Just call the electric company and turn it off. The same with Internet and gas. Go forage for food and wood to burn. Get rid of your hot tub and go find a nice little spring to wash your balls in. You are an effete Progressive, cultural imperialist otherwise.

Exactly the same response I got from tty's post about how sad it is that the people of Penang now live in modern conditions.

Nostalgia is not the same as reality.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Exactly the same response I got from tty's post about how sad it is that the people of Penang now live in modern conditions.

Nostalgia is not the same as reality.

An entire country should live in poverty for Tty to regain the innocence of his youth. Ok. Sure. Makes sense.

 

[Rob Roy]

Not that you pay any, food stamp mooch

That's funny. I grow a decent amount of my own food and give a lot of it away to hungry people.

It's called charity. The real kind, that doesn't use a gun like the kind of acts you erroneously label charity while declaring that you eschew the use of guns. Except you are in love with guns in the "right hands" .

 

[ttystikk]

https://www.redoxenergy.com/products

PLEASE tell me where I can buy one?!

Last I checked they weren't ready for production.

 

[ttystikk]

was it really an increase in their standard of living? i don't know and neither do you. maybe the people who lived there were happy to have a factory come, and maybe they weren't. maybe their children are getting educated, and maybe they're working next to their parents at the dell factory. i highly doubt you bothered to find out before you jumped in with both feet.

When I lived there, they were a happy people, living from the land and the sea in a clean environment.

All that is gone, in return for sweatshop jobs for slave wages in a toxic chemical soup, for the enrichment of executives and shareholders thousands of miles away. Progress, @Unclebaldrick?

I don't fucking think so.

 

[ttystikk]

@Roger A. Shrubber ;
"why are you such a condescending [fvck]? whats it like imagining you're more intelligent than the entire rest of the world? why do you hide your genius on a weed website? you should be on the news, enlightening the whole world with your genius.
how the fuck do you know if those people are happy about having that factory there? you don't. you're making assumptions, and acting like they're facts. thanks for the attitude, because that's all you've contributed so far....[a$$hole]"

Funny how this post was deleted.

Apparently he can't stand to have anyone criticise him. Kind of like Trump; arrogant, nasty- but can't take what he dishes out.

Sad!

 

[ttystikk]

Uh, yeah, you are right. This is a totally new issue that has only happened one place and nobody buy Tty has ever thought of it . I sure was hasty. Tty is the first arrogant American I have ever heard complain about the loss of their favorite idyylic vacation spot by modernization.

I will address the meat of your post when I have more time. It is a fairly large issue. Think about it until then.

I've had a lifetime to think about it. You just sent your mouth off in defense of corporate colonialism.

Just vote Republican and be done with it already.

 

[ttystikk]

I used to have a mother in law that enjoyed the Riviera Maya going back 20 years or so. Every year she would return and moan about how less quaint it was; how the cute native villages were starting to look like suburbs with tv satellite dishes and road congestion. How the "natives" no longer wore traditional garb etc.. But at the end of her stay she would go back to her posh condo in the large American city to catch up on what she missed on cable or use her high speed internet to get back to her business of selling $30,000 mid-century lamps to yuppies. She fully expected these people to remain quaint in order to make her vacation more enjoyable. This is utterly patronizing and certainly seems as if she looked down her surgically enhanced nose at these people as props in her annual retreat.

Is there an argument to be made that life was better when things were simple? Yes, there is. But if you are making that argument on a computer using high speed Internet you have already half lost that argument.

@ttystikk , you can still eat raw every day. Just call the electric company and turn it off. The same with Internet and gas. Go forage for food and wood to burn. Get rid of your hot tub and go find a nice little spring to wash your balls in. You are an effete Progressive, cultural imperialist otherwise.

And you call others effete? You're lost.

 

[ttystikk]

Exactly the same response I got from tty's post about how sad it is that the people of Penang now live in modern conditions.

Nostalgia is not the same as reality.

True.

Those villagers owned their homes and their time. How much would you like to bet they own neither of these anymore? That they traded their lives of confidence and dignity for the precarious existence of factory work? That they did not get compensated for the destruction of their environment?

Why the fuck are you such a blind corporate cheerleader? Do YOU get paid to be soooooo biased towards 'progress'?

 

[Ripped Farmer]

The solution is what? Riding a bike 6 hours each way to work? Hybrid cars wirh batteries that fill landfills?
cars are a huge problem with no viable solution. How many cars on the road in the USA and how many produced every year?

How about China and India. The latter running oil burning 2 strokes by the millions.

There is too many people...

 

[Budley Doright]

Google "shoe fitting flouroscope".

Our shoe store had a tape measure lol

 

[Fogdog]

True.

Those villagers owned their homes and their time. How much would you like to bet they own neither of these anymore? That they traded their lives of confidence and dignity for the precarious existence of factory work? That they did not get compensated for the destruction of their environment?

Why the fuck are you such a blind corporate cheerleader? Do YOU get paid to be soooooo biased towards 'progress'?

Ever cook over an open fire, tty? It's hard work. Chopping wood, maintaining the fire, cooking, cleaning. Soot everywhere. No wonder the population switched to modern kitchens so quickly.

Studies show women in communities that cook in primitive kitchens have very high rates of lung disease. Of course you wouldn't know that.

 

[ttystikk]

Ever cook over an open fire, tty? It's hard work. Chopping wood, maintaining the fire, cooking, cleaning. Soot everywhere. No wonder the population switched to modern kitchens so quickly.

Studies show women in communities that cook in primitive kitchens have very high rates of lung disease. Of course you wouldn't know that.

I enjoy cooking over an open fire.

You seem to have some pretty self centered ideas about what a good life looks like.

 

[Ripped Farmer]

An entire country should live in poverty for Tty to regain the innocence of his youth. Ok. Sure. Makes sense.

The youth Tty spoke of seems awesome. No shits given for materialistic desires, neighbors helping neighbors, non processed foods.

But forget that, $1000 phones and arguing over what a person wants to call themselves is much better.

 

[ttystikk]

The youth Tty spoke of seems awesome. No shits given for materialistic desires, neighbors helping neighbors, non processed foods.

But forget that, $1000 phones and arguing over what a person wants to call themselves is much better.

Exactly.