Stress+Recovery time=Better yield & potency

Somatek

Somatek

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cannabineer said:
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The guys I recall are "bushyoldergrower" and Farmer Maggot ...
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Back when B.O.G. was contentious before people accepted he knew what he was talking about.

I remember his double potting thread that people that was stupid until they saw what he was producing.

That's actually a good parallel to this non-sense. He cause a huge ruckus when he was unknown, lotsa big arguments. Just like Pwezzy here, except he lnew what he was talking about & backed his opinions up instead of accusing everyone of being part of a conspiracy to ruin his thread. Even though he made the thread to see how many comments he can get, despite not caring how many people comment.
 
Pwezzy

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Somatek said:
Big pig tango blue walrus lemonade!

I figure if you're going to obstinately ignore our comments & repeat gibberish I may as well cut out the middleman & only reply to you with gibberish.

It's all been laid out for ya in these 37 pages. Stop asking questions & stop reading to figure out where you lost it. Hint look at page 1 as you were already dismissive of what people where saying there. I know, it's because we all attacked you because we're asshole that randomly decided to waste time making fun of you for no reason. Has nothing to do with you, it's all on us.

So. Zebra orange monkey papaya fart?
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Have reread. Didn't go side ways until page 4 I was answering everybody questions. Everyone said produce evidence and a article like they never heard of the shit. But then later came to say after the comdey show that the stoner myths don't hold up lmao
 
Somatek

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tangerinegreen555 said:
Anybody remember a mod named Dr. Ito?

He now runs a grow store 30 miles up the road.
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The name sounds familiar but I can't remember anything specific. Other then a vague impression of him debating at a high level.

I still laugh when I remember orgnkid showing up running his mouth about OG Kush & hoe it'd revolutionise the scene. In hindsight it's funny how people dismissed him but underestimated what he was saying. I personally think very little of kushes (other then bubba kush) but he was definitely right, they're everywhere & took the scene by storm.
 
tangerinegreen555

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Somatek said:
The name sounds familiar but I can't remember anything specific. Other then a vague impression of him debating at a high level.

I still laugh when I remember orgnkid showing up running his mouth about OG Kush & hoe it'd revolutionise the scene. In hindsight it's funny how people dismissed him but underestimated what he was saying. I personally think very little of kushes (other then bubba kush) but he was definitely right, they're everywhere & took the scene by storm.
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The 1st strain I ever grew inside was Endless Sky, lol. I remember Dr. Greenthumb talked me out of buying auto seeds. I am forever greatful.

Dr. Ito had this strange ass planet Ito flowering schedule. It was from Ito, a moon of Saturn.

He compressed 7 earth days into 5 planet Ito days and you ran 5 day cycles from Sun midnight to Sun midnight that had like 23 hr. 15 min photo periods followed by the normal 12 hr. dark period.

And to this day he has printed digital timer schedules to program timers for Planet Ito under his desk at his store. I'm serious as a heart attack.

I decided since I was on Earth, I'd just try the 12 & 12.
 
Somatek

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Pwezzy said:
Have reread. Didn't go side ways until page 4 I was answering everybody questions. Everyone said produce evidence and a article like they never heard of the shit. But then later came to say after the comdey show that the stoner myths don't hold up lmao
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That's a big swing & a miss. Lets go to the replay Chuck...


From the 1st page...

rkymtnman said:
stress=less than ideal conditions. why would you do that?
ideal conditions=ideal plant

do you think plants have a fight or flight reaction like mammals?
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To which you replied;
Pwezzy said:
Im pretty sure you already stress your plant to increase yeild like topping,LST, film, super cropping, whatever which your plants bounce back just fine from but there are more techniques out there that further more helps with the potentcy, taste, and smell of buds.

I read from many sources grow read easy, leafy, other websites like rollitup. Theres people on both sides of stressing your plant I'm not a one-sided thinker. When I first started growing I heard all kinds of way to cause Hermie and all of them don't make your plant can take alot. Some growers still do high stress train in flowering and still produce no balls.
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That's a clear case of someone pointing out that growing stress free plants is better then stressing them. You denied it by saying that we stress our plants out by LST/etc to increase yields (wrong, we manipulate hormone levels to effect growth to increase yields), then extrapolated that other techniques could improve potency (untested, unverified & generally accepted as wrong).

You then deflected by saying "it"s not my opinion but other peoples" then made a passive aggressive insult by insinuating that others are closed minded ("I'm not a one sided thinker"). You ended by spouting some gibberish about how some growers can highly stress plants in flowering & not produce balls but don't offer anything to back that up. We just have to take it at your word that you know more then us (ie. Knowing how much stress plants can handle by a skilled grower).

Think that over objectively, it's very clear to all of us that you ignored the advice because you were fixated on being right but couldn't back any opinions up with anything other then opinions.

Can we finally give it a rest? I have definitively shown how someone tried to help you understand the idea that you should focus on the basics first but you ignored them because you thought what you read on the internet was equally valid. It sounds like you've more or less accepted that stressing plants out to increase yield/potency doesn't make sense, if you can finally accept you were also wrong about being defensive & dismissing what people were saying I think we can let this die the death it should have died long, long ago.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Somatek said:
That's a big swing & a miss. Lets go to the replay Chuck...


From the 1st page...



To which you replied;


That's a clear case of someone pointing out that growing stress free plants is better then stressing them. You denied it by saying that we stress our plants out by LST/etc to increase yields (wrong, we manipulate hormone levels to effect growth to increase yields), then extrapolated that other techniques could improve potency (untested, unverified & generally accepted as wrong).

You then deflected by saying "it"s not my opinion but other peoples" then made a passive aggressive insult by insinuating that others are closed minded ("I'm not a one sided thinker"). You ended by spouting some gibberish about how some growers can highly stress plants in flowering & not produce balls but don't offer anything to back that up. We just have to take it at your word that you know more then us (ie. Knowing how much stress plants can handle by a skilled grower).

Think that over objectively, it's very clear to all of us that you ignored the advice because you were fixated on being right but couldn't back any opinions up with anything other then opinions.

Can we finally give it a rest? I have definitively shown how someone tried to help you understand the idea that you should focus on the basics first but you ignored them because you thought what you read on the internet was equally valid. It sounds like you've more or less accepted that stressing plants out to increase yield/potency doesn't make sense, if you can finally accept you were also wrong about being defensive & dismissing what people were saying I think we can let this die the death it should have died long, long ago.
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Succinct Summation Award.

I miss the +Rep feature; this is worthy.
 
Somatek

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tangerinegreen555 said:
The 1st strain I ever grew inside was Endless Sky, lol. I remember Dr. Greenthumb talked me out of buying auto seeds. I am forever greatful.

Dr. Ito had this strange ass planet Ito flowering schedule. It was from Ito, a moon of Saturn.

He compressed 7 earth days into 5 planet Ito days and you ran 5 day cycles from Sun midnight to Sun midnight that had like 23 hr. 15 min photo periods followed by the normal 12 hr. dark period.

And to this day he has printed digital timer schedules to program timers for Planet Ito under his desk at his store. I'm serious as a heart attack.

I decided since I was on Earth, I'd just try the 12 & 12.
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OMFG YES!!! Now I remember him, I always wanted to try it but never got around. Who knew this thread would eventually go somewhere.

I absolutely loved Iranian, never had a chance to try endless sky but chumaluma was comparable to the Flo I grew at the time. Dr Greenthumb was always pretty ornery & didn't have patience for noobs who hadn't done the work.
 
Pwezzy

Pwezzy

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Somatek said:
That's a big swing & a miss. Lets go to the replay Chuck...


From the 1st page...



To which you replied;


That's a clear case of someone pointing out that growing stress free plants is better then stressing them. You denied it by saying that we stress our plants out by LST/etc to increase yields (wrong, we manipulate hormone levels to effect growth to increase yields), then extrapolated that other techniques could improve potency (untested, unverified & generally accepted as wrong).

You then deflected by saying "it"s not my opinion but other peoples" then made a passive aggressive insult by insinuating that others are closed minded ("I'm not a one sided thinker"). You ended by spouting some gibberish about how some growers can highly stress plants in flowering & not produce balls but don't offer anything to back that up. We just have to take it at your word that you know more then us (ie. Knowing how much stress plants can handle by a skilled grower).

Think that over objectively, it's very clear to all of us that you ignored the advice because you were fixated on being right but couldn't back any opinions up with anything other then opinions.

Can we finally give it a rest? I have definitively shown how someone tried to help you understand the idea that you should focus on the basics first but you ignored them because you thought what you read on the internet was equally valid. It sounds like you've more or less accepted that stressing plants out to increase yield/potency doesn't make sense, if you can finally accept you were also wrong about being defensive & dismissing what people were saying I think we can let this die the death it should have died long, long ago.
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Like I said and will repeat no matter what it do and the benefit that comes from it doesn't mean u didn't stress you plant that's why they called low stress and high stress training
 
Pwezzy

Pwezzy

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Somatek said:
That's a big swing & a miss. Lets go to the replay Chuck...


From the 1st page...



To which you replied;


That's a clear case of someone pointing out that growing stress free plants is better then stressing them. You denied it by saying that we stress our plants out by LST/etc to increase yields (wrong, we manipulate hormone levels to effect growth to increase yields), then extrapolated that other techniques could improve potency (untested, unverified & generally accepted as wrong).

You then deflected by saying "it"s not my opinion but other peoples" then made a passive aggressive insult by insinuating that others are closed minded ("I'm not a one sided thinker"). You ended by spouting some gibberish about how some growers can highly stress plants in flowering & not produce balls but don't offer anything to back that up. We just have to take it at your word that you know more then us (ie. Knowing how much stress plants can handle by a skilled grower).

Think that over objectively, it's very clear to all of us that you ignored the advice because you were fixated on being right but couldn't back any opinions up with anything other then opinions.

Can we finally give it a rest? I have definitively shown how someone tried to help you understand the idea that you should focus on the basics first but you ignored them because you thought what you read on the internet was equally valid. It sounds like you've more or less accepted that stressing plants out to increase yield/potency doesn't make sense, if you can finally accept you were also wrong about being defensive & dismissing what people were saying I think we can let this die the death it should have died long, long ago.
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I Transplanted in flower still bend/ I guess it's called supercrop, split my stem in flower , prune and still no balls
 
Pwezzy

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Y'all on the same site as me and said y'all do this to newbie growers all the time so stop with the produce a article when all y'all have heard of everything I mention and read yo self.
 
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Diabolical666 said:
We said 100x its bullshits. Its not worth the energy on the plant or the grower to do stupid shit like that.
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And I have fucking said ok besides the gentics of the plant is there any other techniques that are true that can help with potency. If there's not then optimal conditions is the way to go, I never knocked what y'all was saying about a healthy plant. I just said y'all was too closed minded to some of the stoner myths that some on this site say actually work.
 
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