Maximum Wage: Limiting CEO Pay

Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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i'm not talking about common men. i'm talking about people who have the drive to run companies. and the ability. if you do it well, that's a fucking hard job, you're making money for all your workers, you're making money for your investors, what do you get?
i'm talking about after new rules are in place. so it's harder to use the old boy network, so it's harder to buy your way into rules that work for you, so it's a lot more expensive to pay to make problems go away.
you have to leave these people sufficient reason to do what they do, or they stop...then a lot of other people are out of work.
 
doctordetroit

doctordetroit

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Many on this site (I am just guessing) can remember when the top tax bracket was over 90% (eq to 2.5million in income today) in 1964 and still had the top end cars,houses,etc..... How things have changed in 50 years.......
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i'm not talking about common men. i'm talking about people who have the drive to run companies. and the ability. if you do it well, that's a fucking hard job, you're making money for all your workers, you're making money for your investors, what do you get?
i'm talking about after new rules are in place. so it's harder to use the old boy network, so it's harder to buy your way into rules that work for you, so it's a lot more expensive to pay to make problems go away.
you have to leave these people sufficient reason to do what they do, or they stop...then a lot of other people are out of work.
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I'm pretty sure most of us are on the same page about this; you earn more, pay more in taxes, you're a little guy growing a company with employees to feed, probably shouldn't be taxed all that much so he can pay his employees, provide for their healthcare, and still earn a profit to build his business. You're a multibillion dollar company paying his employees slave wages so they require government assistance, left or right, doesn't matter who you are on this one, go fuck yourself. You pay your employees the right wages so they can survive and come back to work for you the next day without utilizing government assistance. It's not the governments job to pay your employees a living wage, that's your job. Otherwise, don't employ them since you can't afford them.
doctordetroit said:
Many on this site (I am just guessing) can remember when the top tax bracket was over 90% (eq to 2.5million in income today) in 1964 and still had the top end cars,houses,etc..... How things have changed in 50 years.......
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No need to guess, my friend
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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ttystikk said:
The latest round of tax cuts proved that, didn't it?

The experiment with ultra low taxes has been tried; ask Kansas. Ask them why Sam Brownback isn't running the state anymore.

I still think progressive tax rates is the answer, with no breaks given to unearned vs earned income.
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Can't even fix your own fucking life but you have the audacity to demand the world changes to suit your failed existence.

Sad!!
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
that's why you have to tie it to actual production. they get the same percentage bonus as the line workers. that's incentive to get involved with the workers and try to motivate them, try to facilitate them...to listen to them and take their suggestions seriously
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Fogdog

Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
I'm pretty sure most of us are on the same page about this; you earn more, pay more in taxes, you're a little guy growing a company with employees to feed, probably shouldn't be taxed all that much so he can pay his employees, provide for their healthcare, and still earn a profit to build his business. You're a multibillion dollar company paying his employees slave wages so they require government assistance, left or right, doesn't matter who you are on this one, go fuck yourself. You pay your employees the right wages so they can survive and come back to work for you the next day without utilizing government assistance. It's not the governments job to pay your employees a living wage, that's your job. Otherwise, don't employ them since you can't afford them.
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Capitalism always seeks the lowest cost for competitive reasons. One of the reasons for government regulations is to set the floor below which companies cannot legally operate. This goes for pollution, maintaining a competitive market and how a company treats its employees including wages.

Unlike you, I don't expect companies to follow unwritten morality rules. I think it's folly to think they will. It's the role of government to set regulations that maintain an orderly and fair workplaces as well as markets. With Republicans in charge, that will never happen. Which leads me to scratch my head in wonder at why you continue to do your utmost to keep them in control.

I simply can't understand the contradiction between your statements above and the vitriol you spew upon the only party that supports your agenda. Maybe it's bigotry and racism that drives you?
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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Fogdog said:
Capitalism always seeks the lowest cost for competitive reasons. One of the reasons for government regulations is to set the floor below which companies cannot legally operate. This goes for pollution, maintaining a competitive market and how a company treats its employees including wages.

Unlike you, I don't expect companies to follow unwritten morality rules. I think it's folly to think they will. It's the role of government to set regulations that maintain an orderly and fair workplaces as well as markets. With Republicans in charge, that will never happen. Which leads me to scratch my head in wonder at why you continue to do your utmost to keep them in control.

I simply can't understand the contradiction between your statements above and the vitriol you spew upon the only party that supports your agenda. Maybe it's bigotry and racism that drives you?
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The last sentence I think was unnecessary.

They're simply deluded idiots.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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SneekyNinja said:
The last sentence I think was unnecessary.

They're simply deluded idiots.
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Racism and bigotry is part and parcel of the divisiveness that persists in Bernie and padabater's political ideology. Yes, it matters that their biases aren't overt. Yet, they contend that women, black and Hispanic people must put their issues on the back burner in favor of economic policies. Not saying health care, subsidized college, etc. aren't important but Bernie overlooks or ignores civil rights issues that are also important to Democrats.

They are deluded if they think any Democratic candidate can win the nomination while ignoring black, Latino and women's issues. Nor should they win.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
Capitalism always seeks the lowest cost for competitive reasons. One of the reasons for government regulations is to set the floor below which companies cannot legally operate. This goes for pollution, maintaining a competitive market and how a company treats its employees including wages.

Unlike you, I don't expect companies to follow unwritten morality rules. I think it's folly to think they will. It's the role of government to set regulations that maintain an orderly and fair workplaces as well as markets. With Republicans in charge, that will never happen. Which leads me to scratch my head in wonder at why you continue to do your utmost to keep them in control.

I simply can't understand the contradiction between your statements above and the vitriol you spew upon the only party that supports your agenda. Maybe it's bigotry and racism that drives you?
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False equivalency, opposing corporate Democrats is not the same thing as supporting Republican control

In this situation, you're the one who is ensuring Republican control by propping up candidates that can't beat them in elections. We're the ones telling you to support the popular, more electable person to defeat Republicans. Sanders was polling 10 points ahead of Trump on election day while Clinton polled within the margin of error. We've had 8 years of trying and failing to win elections all across the country by establishment Democrats. It's time to try a new political strategy, we can't win working class votes in swing states without actually addressing working class concerns and issues and voters won't trust politicians to represent them if they're taking large amounts of money from corporations and special interests.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
False equivalency, opposing corporate Democrats is not the same thing as supporting Republican control

In this situation, you're the one who is ensuring Republican control by propping up candidates that can't beat them in elections. We're the ones telling you to support the popular, more electable person to defeat Republicans. Sanders was polling 10 points ahead of Trump on election day while Clinton polled within the margin of error. We've had 8 years of trying and failing to win elections all across the country by establishment Democrats. It's time to try a new political strategy, we can't win working class votes in swing states without actually addressing working class concerns and issues and voters won't trust politicians to represent them if they're taking large amounts of money from corporations and special interests.
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You are a sad joke

Doug jones and Conor lamb say hi
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
Racism and bigotry is part and parcel of the divisiveness that persists in Bernie and padabater's political ideology. Yes, it matters that their biases aren't overt. Yet, they contend that women, black and Hispanic people must put their issues on the back burner in favor of economic policies. Not saying health care, subsidized college, etc. aren't important but Bernie overlooks or ignores civil rights issues that are also important to Democrats.

They are deluded if they think any Democratic candidate can win the nomination while ignoring black, Latino and women's issues. Nor should they win.
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MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS WANT CANDIDATES TO BE MORE LIKE BERNIE SANDERS, POLL FINDS
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Fogdog

Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
False equivalency, opposing corporate Democrats is not the same thing as supporting Republican control

In this situation, you're the one who is ensuring Republican control by propping up candidates that can't beat them in elections. We're the ones telling you to support the popular, more electable person to defeat Republicans. Sanders was polling 10 points ahead of Trump on election day while Clinton polled within the margin of error. We've had 8 years of trying and failing to win elections all across the country by establishment Democrats. It's time to try a new political strategy, we can't win working class votes in swing states without actually addressing working class concerns and issues and voters won't trust politicians to represent them if they're taking large amounts of money from corporations and special interests.
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I'm all for all the free stuff Bernie offered in his campaign. Just saying most of the US would have rejected it. But you just want to quote opinion polls and ignore how people really cast their votes.

You made a false claim that I made an equivalence statement. to funny that.
 
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