How many Neoliberals in the Democratic Party before the Democratic Party is a Neoliberal party?
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Fogdog
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unregulated free markets are a bad thing for everybody but the 1%.
shimbob
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*scratching head* neoliberalism wants unregulated free markets? I thought they were for socialism, communism, nationalizing the free market? Does the neoliberals' desire for unregulated free markets differ than the conservative/neocon's desire to have unregulated free markets?
Fogdog
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You one of many who comes here with their own definitions for a word. You are entitled to do so but you will be wrong if you think that neoliberal means communism. LOL
just look up the definition online. It's fast and easy. Stick to well known neutral sites. Brittanica for example (see below). Wikipedia has a good description. What people like you are confused by is the word liberal. It happens to idiots on the right and left so you are in good company regardless of your political beliefs.
Neoliberalism, ideology and policy model that emphasizes the value of free market competition. Although there is considerable debate as to the defining features of neoliberal thought and practice, it is most commonly associated with laissez-faireeconomics. In particular, neoliberalism is often characterized in terms of its belief in sustained economic growth as the means to achieve human progress, its confidence in free markets as the most-efficient allocation of resources, its emphasis on minimal state intervention in economic and social affairs, and its commitment to the freedom of trade and capital.
Fogdog
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LOL
It's all good. To you neoliberal = communist.
Makes no difference to me. As I said, there are quite a number of people posting here with made-up definitions for all sorts of things. I'll stick to common English. You and others can keep your jibber jabber.
Fogdog
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I don't know. I don't much care for Republicans wherein both of those religious convictions reside. I simply point out your false claim that Democrats are neo-liberal communists. (snicker)
Fogdog
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I don't speak jibber jabber and so I have no idea what you are referring to.
+rep
Unclebaldrick
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SneekyNinja
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Shit thread.
a senile fungus
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LOL nothing has changed but I missed it so
you're back?
INF Flux
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It doesn't.
londonfog
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I think your definition of neoliberal needs to be shared. Explain what you think Neoliberals are.
In the mean time . How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll pop.
2? 5? 10? 130? 200?
Padawanbater2
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"Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism refers primarily to the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism. Those ideas include economic liberalization policies such as privatization, austerity, deregulation, free trade and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society. These market-based ideas and the policies they inspired constitute a paradigm shift away from the post-war Keynesian consensus which lasted from 1945 to 1980."
"During the 1990s, the Clinton administration also embraced neoliberalism by supporting the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), continuing the deregulation of the financial sector through passage of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act and the repeal of the Glass–Steagall Act and implementing cuts to the welfare state through passage of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act. The neoliberalism of the Clinton administration differs from that of Reagan as the Clinton administration purged neoliberalism of neoconservative positions on militarism, family values, opposition to multiculturalism and neglect of ecological issues. Writing in New York, journalist Jonathan Chait disputed accusations that the Democratic Party had been hijacked by neoliberals, saying that its policies have largely stayed the same since the New Deal. Instead, Chait suggested this came from arguments that presented a false dichotomy between free market economics and socialism, ignoring mixed economies. Historian Walter Scheidel says that both parties shifted to promote free market capitalism in the 1970s, with the Democratic Party being "instrumental in implementing financial deregulation in the 1990s"."
"During the 1990s, the Clinton administration also embraced neoliberalism by supporting the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), continuing the deregulation of the financial sector through passage of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act and the repeal of the Glass–Steagall Act and implementing cuts to the welfare state through passage of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act. The neoliberalism of the Clinton administration differs from that of Reagan as the Clinton administration purged neoliberalism of neoconservative positions on militarism, family values, opposition to multiculturalism and neglect of ecological issues. Writing in New York, journalist Jonathan Chait disputed accusations that the Democratic Party had been hijacked by neoliberals, saying that its policies have largely stayed the same since the New Deal. Instead, Chait suggested this came from arguments that presented a false dichotomy between free market economics and socialism, ignoring mixed economies. Historian Walter Scheidel says that both parties shifted to promote free market capitalism in the 1970s, with the Democratic Party being "instrumental in implementing financial deregulation in the 1990s"."
Fogdog
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If you are talking about laissez-faire economic liberalism, there are no true neoliberals in the Democratic party leadership.
Padawanbater2
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Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are both 3rd wave, neoliberal Democrats, as is Hillary Clinton