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UncleBuck

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Your argument is flaccidly buttressed by a government imposed false dichotomy and falls flat because it excludes other possibilities. (hey that was pretty good Rob Roy!...ahem...polishes nails and smiles condescendingly)

Let me explain, numb nuts. You think choosing between two sets of circumstances laid out by your master constitutes all of the possibilities. It doesn't. If a person isn't free to decline both of your restrictive possibilities and choose neither or take a different course of action, your "choice" is revealed as the same kind of "choice" parents give children when they are employing psychology to control the outcome.

So, anyway. You're still losing.
So what other option is there besides business that racially segregates and business which doesn’t racially segregate
 

Rob Roy

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So what other option is there besides business that racially segregates and business which doesn’t racially segregate
When you say "business" in your question, you have to really mean people, since a business is a concept and doesn't make the choices that real people do.

The option of the persons involved to make the choices to mutually interact or not, is the possibility that best ensures freedom and a peaceful process. In other words you can't use force to create a peaceful outcome, since using force as a means ensures it's embedded in the process.


If the circumstances involved sex, your point of view says it's okay to force a relationship between two parties when one is unwilling.
Mine says the people involved should decide and it must be mutual or it shouldn't occur. You support some forms of rape, I don't.

I hope that example helps your simpleton mind grasp the subtleties of our differences. You like to control other people even if they aren't trying to control you. Seek therapy.
 

UncleBuck

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When you say "business" in your question, you have to really mean people, since a business is a concept and doesn't make the choices that real people do.

The option of the persons involved to make the choices to mutually interact or not, is the possibility that best ensures freedom and a peaceful process. In other words you can't use force to create a peaceful outcome, since using force as a means ensures it's embedded in the process.


If the circumstances involved sex, your point of view says it's okay to force a relationship between two parties when one is unwilling.
Mine says the people involved should decide and it must be mutual or it shouldn't occur. You support some forms of rape, I don't.

I hope that example helps your simpleton mind grasp the subtleties of our differences. You like to control other people even if they aren't trying to control you. Seek therapy.
What a sad and pathetic rant which only makes sense if words mean the opposite of their actual meanings
 

Rob Roy

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If you weren’t a poor loser you could easily open a racially segregated business
Except, I don't base my choices on who I associate with on another persons race. Good and bad people come in all colors. If your argument consists of conflation, you're probably still losing. (you are)

I base the limit of my rights at the boundary of another persons. I have every right to chose my human interactions on a mutual basis with others. I also have every right to decline a relationship, even if another wants to have one with me, but I don't, everybody does.

I don't advocate racist practices, I just don't have any right to force a racist (or anyone else) into relationships they'd prefer not be initiated, especially on their property.

Is it okay for you to go to a racist property and force them to serve you, as if you owned them ? If you had a time machine you could go back to 1840 and practice your slavery methods of forcing others to serve you against their will.
 

UncleBuck

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Except, I don't base my choices on who I associate with on another persons race. Good and bad people come in all colors. If your argument consists of conflation, you're probably still losing. (you are)

I base the limit of my rights at the boundary of another persons. I have every right to chose my human interactions on a mutual basis with others. I also have every right to decline a relationship, even if another wants to have one with me, but I don't, everybody does.

I don't advocate racist practices, I just don't have any right to force a racist (or anyone else) into relationships they'd prefer not be initiated, especially on their property.

Is it okay for you to go to a racist property and force them to serve you, as if you owned them ? If you had a time machine you could go back to 1840 and practice your slavery methods of forcing others to serve you against their will.
If you don’t advocate for racist practices why did you say people should post racial segregation signs
 

londonfog

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Just because you equally remove every person of every race right to self determine doesn't mean you are supporting equal freedom. You're really supporting equal suppression and equal removal of everyone's self determination over their own body and justly acquired property. Huge difference, as usual you are misunderstanding the fruition and reality of what your "argument" means, slugger.

Lets say the black guy didn't apply for a license because it violated his conscience. Let's say his product was legally prohibited, but still in great demand from consenting buyers. You okay with fining him and harming him if doesn't comply ? Begin there.


My mother doesn't wear dresses. She wears a traditional grass skirt, remember, I'm a Pacific Islander that lived in a hut as a young child until I became feral and was raised by a band of Sasquatches.
I would tell this black man to go ahead and apply for his license, part of the business of doing business in this United States. That license will pay for itself. I know you hate regulations but be thankful I'm not allowed to just dump my trash in front of your home. Just because your yard looks like a dump does not mean it is one.

Buy your mother a dress. I'm sure she would love it versus that grass skirt. The dress could/would help provide breast support for her. Your breast feeding until the age 10 did damage
 
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Rob Roy

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If you don’t advocate for racist practices why did you say people should post racial segregation signs
When you asked me (long ago) the question went something like "what's the most polite way for a racist to notice others
of his intentions etc. " I said to notice people as opposed to surprising them or attacking them.

A racist who notices others of his intentions of how he wants to use his property is doing two things,
1) providing written notice to others (that's a polite and reasonable thing to do)
2) proclaiming his racism (which I don't like, but have no right to force another to change)

Now that you've gotten that cleared up for like the millionth time, you can explain why you would force a black guy to beg for permission to use his own property as he sees fit.
 

Rob Roy

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I would tell this black man to go ahead and apply for his license, part of the business of doing business in this United States. That license will pay for itself. I know you hate regulations but be thankful I'm not allowed to just dumb my trash in front of your home. Just because your yard looks like a dump does not mean it is one.

Buy your mother a dress. I'm sure she would love it versus that grass skirt. The dress could/would help provide breast support for her. Your breast feeding until the age 10 did damage
What if this black man looked at you and laughed and told you to grow a set of balls and said he didn't have to ask anybody to decide to use his body and property as he saw fit. That he was not a slave etc.

Would you support him or are you okay with him being shaken down by the government ?

Taking mom out to breakfast in a couple days. I was breast fed by my father, so nice try.
 

londonfog

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What if this black man looked at you and laughed and told you to grow a set of balls and said he didn't have to ask anybody to decide to use his body and property as he saw fit. That he was not a slave etc.

Would you support him or are you okay with him being shaken down by the government ?

Taking mom out to breakfast in a couple days. I was breast fed by my father, so nice try.
I would tell this man that every action has a reaction.
Do you mind if I dump my trash in front of your house...but not on your property. I also would like to know if you have any streams running on your property that I may find a place upstream to shit....but not on your property.
Tax season is almost upon us. I you going to buy any large purchases to finish off your quarter? How will you file next year ?
 

wompaa

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The asshole in charge said this afternoon that the United States would send as many as 15,000 troops to the border with Mexico starting next week, as he doubles down on his stance to stop a caravan of about 4000 walking migrants fleeing violence and poverty in Central America, that are not expected to reach the border for another month.

The numbers cited by shithead today are significantly higher than defense officials have disclosed previously, like the Pentagon said on Monday it was deploying more than 5,200 troops to the border but that the number could possibly rise. This morning it said more than 7,000 troops would support the Department of Homeland Security along the border, but more will probably end up going. Then Trump said this afternoon fucking 15,000 soldiers was more like it. Who knows what tomorrow will bring, 20,000, 30,000, maybe the entire fucking Army?

This guy is a lunatic, seeing as that's more troops than we have in Afghanistan ( THE LONGEST WAR IN AMERICAN FUCKING HISTORY, GET THE FUCK OUT!!!), Iraq and Syria COMBINED!!!!!

WTF!!!!

I really like the timing though, because if this doesn't show the American public before election day that he and the GOP in general need a kick in the balls to wake them up, and that he is off his rocker (except the Trumptards which will applaud it), maybe nothing else will.

Countdown time, for the end of Trump?

Well, if the Dems get the House and Beto wins,

IMPEACH THAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!

Whew, I got that off my chest, time for a spliff :)
Building a wall against the animals i can understand after seeing bestgore recently, but some people believe in reform especially when 90% of gang krime is teenage related govened by 10% pablo wannabes .... he should start a war againts the kingpins if he wants what he wants .. peace, no drugs for the kids and everyone 'educated'



007 dr evil/hilter menality mixed with an old cowboy, indian, mexican bandit casino personalty isnt going to end well in any decade.


this is the problem and how to fixbongsmilie
correct me if i'm wrong
 

Rob Roy

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I would tell this man that every action has a reaction.
Do you mind if I dump my trash in front of your house...but not on your property. I also would like to know if you have any streams running on your property that I may find a place upstream to shit....but not on your property.
Tax season is almost upon us. I you going to buy any large purchases to finish off your quarter? How will you file next year ?
It was illegal for a slave to run away in 1850. Would you have told another slave he should obey the law and continue to serve somebody against his will?

If you dump trash...won't you need a permit? (Ha ha ha )

 

UncleBuck

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When you asked me (long ago) the question went something like "what's the most polite way for a racist to notice others
of his intentions etc. " I said to notice people as opposed to surprising them or attacking them.

A racist who notices others of his intentions of how he wants to use his property is doing two things,
1) providing written notice to others (that's a polite and reasonable thing to do)
2) proclaiming his racism (which I don't like, but have no right to force another to change)

Now that you've gotten that cleared up for like the millionth time, you can explain why you would force a black guy to beg for permission to use his own property as he sees fit.
Your years of building an argument have culminated in you explaining why you advocate for people to hang racial segregation signs
 

Buddha2525

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It was illegal for a slave to run away in 1850. Would you have told another slave he should obey the law and continue to serve somebody against his will?

If you dump trash...won't you need a permit? (Ha ha ha )

My complaint is he indirectly produced horrible "human beings" like this one.

 

wompaa

Active Member
if you didnt have guns you wouldnt have all this trouble.

slaves on a farm without guns would turn into a mike tyson fight against the skinny white dudes and the future would have been different.

all becuase of guns n power
 

wompaa

Active Member
the blacks rule now anyways .... i think opra winfrey was the start of the rulings, then eddie murphy
 
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