is this the middle ages?

[Budley Doright]

My world would work by voluntary human interactions between consenting people and every person would have the equal right of self determination. Your world does not work that way, instead it anoints some pigs as "more equal" , which isn't very nice and relies on systemic violence to maintain order, which of course negates any possibility of a peaceful society. You won't understand that, and will likely run away if / when I challenge and eviscerate your contradictory and superstitious belief system.

I think borders on a national level are a superstitious belief held together by mythology and threats of punishment to the slaves held within for failure to believe in the concept. Individuals identifying and agreeing to property lines makes more sense.

My sister lives in Mexico. Es verdad.

You’ve been challenging me and everyone at every step and I’m still here. Trying to understand your world but of course any sane person would no your world can not work. Our countries, your and mine, are for the most part, based on self determination. Seems some get left behind as they perhaps made the wrong choices and now blame society on their misfortune.

 

[Budley Doright]

You guys are just being irrational and have been brainwashed by me and are my sock puppets

There’s no reason to think robert is a pedo just because he refuses to say 12 year olds are off limits

fuck!

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

You guys are just being irrational and have been brainwashed by me and are my sock puppets

There’s no reason to think robert is a pedo just because he refuses to say 12 year olds are off limits

i don't like to condemn someone on the say so of a couple of people on a website forum....you should know how that feels....
but it is kind of fucking creepy Rob.....sure you don't want to rethink that one?

 

[Budley Doright]

That's why I mentioned to London to check the etymology of the word.

Also Christ WASN'T a cowboy.

I disagree, my Christ was a cowboy.

 

[Budley Doright]

I think getting laid with a consenting partner(s) is a good thing. Don't know why you think getting laid via rape is a good thing though. Why do you like forcing people to conform to your ideas if they're willing to leave you alone?

You really don't like the hard questions do you?

Please quote where I said rape was a good thing. Stop lying, it makes you look like a loser.

 

[crimsonecho]

Wow. This is a long thread. My 2 cents, there is no civilized world. Civilization is a term used in regards of capitalistic development. Capitalism is neither civilized nor peaceful. It is only perceived it to be so for the citizens of a country that is wealthy, while most of the world is suffering from poverty and can’t get sufficient nourishment let alone a good education or any other basic human needs and rights.

 

[Budley Doright]

Wow. This is a long thread. My 2 cents, there is no civilized world. Civilization is a term used in regards of capitalistic development. Capitalism is neither civilized nor peaceful. It is only perceived it to be so for the citizens of a country that is wealthy, while most of the world is suffering from poverty and can’t get sufficient nourishment let alone a good education or any other basic human needs and rights.

Not disagreeing that the world is a fucked up place. So you agree with Robs ideology then, your a slave as well?

 

[crimsonecho]

Not disagreeing that the world is a fucked up place. So you agree with Robs ideology then, your a slave as well?

Can’t say, haven’t read all the posts, told you long thread, just wanted to throw in my 2.
Well we can kid ourselves and think we’re independent people, that have rights and ideas that are independent of our education or upbringing. But i think thats just naive.
The sad truth is we are cogs of this machine and the only reason we even have the illusion of free will is because we go docile when presented with even the illusion of freedom. The reality, as i perceive it, is that the system wants you to work for it, you go to school to learn the needed skills to work for “it” and when you’re there, for example, why not pledge allegiance to your “own flag”, “your nation”, “your god” (which i don’t think covers Ahura Mazda for example). This is brainwashing and i’m not going to even go into the manupilation of history itself according to a countries propaganda.
We are just brainwashed consumers, living docile and thinking we don’t play any part in these horrible acts and injustice but we are. Just by believing capitalism is the only way to live. Just by giving into the lie that borders can protect someone etc etc.
I accept we’re all slaves in the eyes of an unbiased observer. If i don’t accept it then i truly become a slave.

 

[Budley Doright]

Can’t say, haven’t read all the posts, told you long thread, just wanted to throw in my 2.
Well we can kid ourselves and think we’re independent people, that have rights and ideas that are independent of our education or upbringing. But i think thats just naive.
The sad truth is we are cogs of this machine and the only reason we even have the illusion of free will is because we go docile when presented with even the illusion of freedom. The reality, as i perceive it, is that the system wants you to work for it, you go to school to learn the needed skills to work for “it” and when you’re there, for example, why not pledge allegiance to your “own flag”, “your nation”, “your god” (which i don’t think covers Ahura Mazda for example). This is brainwashing and i’m not going to even go into the manupilation of history itself according to a countries propaganda.
We are just brainwashed consumers, living docile and thinking we don’t play any part in these horrible acts and injustice but we are. Just by believing capitalism is the only way to live. Just by giving into the lie that borders can protect someone etc etc.
I accept we’re all slaves in the eyes of an unbiased observer. If i don’t accept it then i truly become a slave.

K then.

 

[londonfog]

You’ve been challenging me and everyone at every step and I’m still here. Trying to understand your world but of course any sane person would no your world can not work. Our countries, your and mine, are for the most part, based on self determination. Seems some get left behind as they perhaps made the wrong choices and now blame society on their misfortune.

To understand his world you first must find the rainbow unicorn and bath with a water nymph...or do lots and lots of psych drugs

 

[Rob Roy]

You’ve been challenging me and everyone at every step and I’m still here. Trying to understand your world but of course any sane person would no your world can not work. Our countries, your and mine, are for the most part, based on self determination. Seems some get left behind as they perhaps made the wrong choices and now blame society on their misfortune.

A political entity is not based in self determination, not "for the most part" , not even "a little bit", if it claims it's subjects thru involuntary means and exempts itself or its actors from things that would be criminal if you or I did them.

 

[Rob Roy]

i don't like to condemn someone on the say so of a couple of people on a website forum....you should know how that feels....
but it is kind of fucking creepy Rob.....sure you don't want to rethink that one?

I do appreciate that you are reluctant to condemn somebody based on bad information.

Not quite sure what you're asking though...

Are you saying because I don't think there is a universal age wherein every person magically attains the ability to consent at the EXACT same age that somehow I endorse kiddie diddling ?

 

[londonfog]

I do appreciate that you are reluctant to condemn somebody based on bad information.

Not quite sure what you're asking though...

Are you saying because I don't think there is a universal age wherein every person magically attains the ability to consent at the EXACT same age that somehow I endorse kiddie diddling ?

Stop wanting to fuck 12 year olds

 

[Rob Roy]

Please quote where I said rape was a good thing. Stop lying, it makes you look like a loser.

You are in favor of involuntary human interactions backed by threats of violence against a neutral person for noncompliance to a governmental edict aren't you?

In other words you think nonexistent rights of individuals can somehow come into existence if enough people all toss their zero right into a heap and somehow something other than a zero right will emerge. Isn't that correct?

 

[Rob Roy]

Stop wanting to fuck 12 year olds

That's not an argument. It is a false accusation, likely caused by head trauma when your wife beats you.

 

[londonfog]

That's not an argument. It is a false accusation, likely caused by head trauma when your wife beats you.

My wife only beats me at Scrabble...very abusive in that.
Anytime you can't say a 12 year old can not consent to sex with an adult, there is a problem

 

[Rob Roy]

My wife only beats me at Scrabble...very abusive in that.
Anytime you can't say a 12 year old can not consent to sex with an adult, there is a problem

If what you are saying is true, the corollary to that would be that you KNOW when everybody attains the ability to consent.

Which age would you sat that is and what makes that so ?

 

[Rob Roy]

To understand his world you first must find the rainbow unicorn and bath with a water nymph...or do lots and lots of psych drugs

In your world a thousand zeroes equals 28. So, there is that.

 

[Rob Roy]

you know, i'm a hillbilly, and the rebel flag has never appealed to me. i'm not trying to be antagonistic, but it's the symbol of the side that lost, the side that wanted to perpetuate slavery, the side that wanted to break the country apart over their financial portfolios.
i remember the only exchange ever had about it, around 8 or so. a bunch of us were playing war....because you could then, without being shot by the police....and one kid had a rebel flag. i said i didn't want to be a rebel, they lost. he said the south will rise again....which i guess he got from his dad...and i thought, why not be on the side that never fell to begin with?...the socio-political ramifications didn't occur to me till much later

So when the Union army drafted people into it, you know "involuntary servitude" were they at least temporarily "the side that wanted to enslave" ?

 

[Budley Doright]

I do appreciate that you are reluctant to condemn somebody based on bad information.

Not quite sure what you're asking though...

Are you saying because I don't think there is a universal age wherein every person magically attains the ability to consent at the EXACT same age that somehow I endorse kiddie diddling ?

Have you not said that a 12 year could have the ability to consent? If that was even possible, it is not, what is the determinate factor that would make you say “yes they consented”? And who would decide this?