SneekyNinja
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Lol, ain't been here in a while and now the racist is complaining about other racists...
*popcorn*
*popcorn*
No Wonder Why Blacks HATE Whites..
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missed you! saw your post and had to come over..where you been?
i literally was thinking about you last night.
Donald Trump is President.
mustbetribbin
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All good everyone, if you're wondering the argument I was having with chiefrunningphist was solved via P.M.
If I was a bit much on this thread I do apologize.
If I was a bit much on this thread I do apologize.
you know..i don't think anyone noticed anything tbh..nice that you apologized, first guy here with a moral compass and manners.
every man here, is a lizard brain in some form.
mustbetribbin
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That's only if you draw the racial line as to whom gets to say what, why should only black people be able to speak about what we all saw happen to the young man?
No matter how you perceive such things occurring, you cannot have a society where other races cannot voice their opinion, this is about a fiber that we can all relate to that grows our from the tops of our heads, anyone that has ever grown hair on their head should be able to voice their opinion no matter what skin color or tribe.
Even people born bald should be able to have an opinion, why discriminate against anyone's intelligence? Especially when it is out of our power to change who or what we are effected by regarding race, gender and sometimes health issues.
Why have you nothing to say other than your disapproval of what others have said, can you share your opinion and tell us or anyone where we are wrong?
What if our intention was genuinely to decrease racial tension, and what if we do genuinely desire to work on understanding each other, what about us that want change and don't have hate for each other in our heart?
Just because the title is off putting for some doesn't mean that the contents of a thread will reflect the same. This forum is full of satirical post titles btw.
Fogdog
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Maybe I'm a bit late to the party but the kid wasn't breaking the rules with his braided hair and hair covering.
In previous matches in a tournament a week before, Speziali said Andrew wrestled without any issues.
According to the NFHS wrestling rule book, a wrestler's hair cannot fall below the top of a shirt collar in the back, below his earlobes on the sides, or below his eyebrows.
If it is longer than the rule allows, the wrestler has to braid his hair or hide it beneath a hair cover attached to his ear guards, the rulebook states.
New Jersey State Interscholastic Athletic Association (NJSIAA) Executive Director Larry White said in a statement that state authorities are investigating the incident.
Cutting that kid's hair was an act of violence. I hope the board takes action against that ref and I hope the family takes action against the authorities and wins.
It is fair to believe that racism played a role in that ref's actions on that day. It is fair to believe that racism played a role because this kind of shit happens every day in the school system much more often to black kids than white.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/25/us/wrestler-dreadlocks-new-jersey-comments/index.html
The title of this thread is deliberately provocative and made by a person who suffers from racism against black people. In that way, the title works but it fails too. Black people don't hate white people because of shit like this. They just want it to stop.
In previous matches in a tournament a week before, Speziali said Andrew wrestled without any issues.
According to the NFHS wrestling rule book, a wrestler's hair cannot fall below the top of a shirt collar in the back, below his earlobes on the sides, or below his eyebrows.
If it is longer than the rule allows, the wrestler has to braid his hair or hide it beneath a hair cover attached to his ear guards, the rulebook states.
New Jersey State Interscholastic Athletic Association (NJSIAA) Executive Director Larry White said in a statement that state authorities are investigating the incident.
Cutting that kid's hair was an act of violence. I hope the board takes action against that ref and I hope the family takes action against the authorities and wins.
It is fair to believe that racism played a role in that ref's actions on that day. It is fair to believe that racism played a role because this kind of shit happens every day in the school system much more often to black kids than white.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/25/us/wrestler-dreadlocks-new-jersey-comments/index.html
The title of this thread is deliberately provocative and made by a person who suffers from racism against black people. In that way, the title works but it fails too. Black people don't hate white people because of shit like this. They just want it to stop.
ChiefRunningPhist
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I disagree but see your side.
It might be plausible or possible, or "fair" reasoning, but to judge before the facts are presented and the entire story is made public is not socially responsible, and further fans the flames of our current racial climate.
The fact that it's headline news across the country is an unequal or superfluous response and disintegrates the integrity of the "actual" racial discrimination argument which is derived from validated and more serious offenses. You disrespect the true victims and the true fight going on by not being disciplined in how and when you react and/or label things that may or may not be "racist".
Basically, its so IN right now to hate on racists. People are tainting the real situation with their social media need for attention and likes and their desire to be excepted.
That's my $0.02. The more I read about it the more its developing into a race related issue, but its hard to tell hype from news anymore and I'll give it a few days of investigation before I jump in with the "lord of the flies" type of conviction, which I think is happening here currently... I could be wrong but trying to be socially responsible.
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Fogdog
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This is the same kind of fake "fairness" that Republicans gave to Kavanaugh. I don't know that Kavanaugh is guilty but I believe Ford in part because the kind of shit he is accused of is very common. So common that we should first believe the woman and look for evidence to the contrary.
Yes, there isn't evidence to prove the ref is an overt racist to the level that it would win in a criminal court case. That's not the standard,
It is statistically proven beyond a doubt that the school system is guilty of systemic racism due to the frequency of acts like this against black kids compared to white ones. Once proven guilty, then the onus of proof goes onto the guilty party. It is not unreasonable to believe that the ref is part and parcel of the same systemic racism of the school system that can be absolutely proven to exist if not each and every individual act. Once proven guilty, then it's up to the system to be under scrutiny. They are under probation and continue to fail to meet terms of their probation. Hang 'em.
As I said, it is fair to believe the ref committed violence on that black kid and was influenced by his racist leanings. It happens all the time. It has to stop. Giving people with power a pass isn't going to stop it. So, Hang Em
Fogdog
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The education system has been shown to be guilty of systemic racism against black kids It is not unreasonable to suspect each and every violation of a black kid's rights or act of violence against them by the school system to be due to racism.
It is a common principle in courts that the past behavior of a witness or defendant has bearing on the credibility of their testimony:
Evidence of Prior Convictions: Admissible Against Defendants Who Testify?
Some defendants who testify run the risk of the jury learning about their criminal record.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/evidence-prior-convictions-admissible-against-defendants-who-testify.html
When any witness, or defendant, testifies, his or her credibility is at issue. The fact-finder (either judge or jury) must decide whether and how much to believe the witness. That’s why courts allow into evidence certain kinds of past convictions—to aid the determination of how trustworthy the witness is.
The ref may be reasonably thought to be a racist fuck until he is proven otherwise.
It is a common principle in courts that the past behavior of a witness or defendant has bearing on the credibility of their testimony:
Evidence of Prior Convictions: Admissible Against Defendants Who Testify?
Some defendants who testify run the risk of the jury learning about their criminal record.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/evidence-prior-convictions-admissible-against-defendants-who-testify.html
When any witness, or defendant, testifies, his or her credibility is at issue. The fact-finder (either judge or jury) must decide whether and how much to believe the witness. That’s why courts allow into evidence certain kinds of past convictions—to aid the determination of how trustworthy the witness is.
The ref may be reasonably thought to be a racist fuck until he is proven otherwise.
ChiefRunningPhist
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Guilty until proven innocent.. And guilty by association..
What's reasonable and what's responsible are 2 different things.
I'm not debating if the ref holds racist views (because I don't care, it's irrelevant). Im debating if it was a racist act. 2 different things. 1 you can control, the other you can't.
You do you, but I don't think its socially responsible making quick or rash judgements especially when the result has such big implications to our current racial climate, and considering the vast majority of people expressing outrage only heard about it second hand. We need to guard against the quick judgement and have some accountability, imo. If you want to perpetuate a volatile racial climate before you know the details, by all means go right ahead, I just disagree and am attempting to explain from my own limited experiences that there is a common sense reason for this incident, and that there are truly racist events that deserve national headlines that will now have their validity questioned because people are blowing this completely out of proportion (imo, thus far) and driving sensible un-decided voters away from reason and towards trump.
Was it the greatest thing? No. Was it probably some type of power trip? Ya. Idk if it was an old guy thing hating young punks thing, a bald guy hating haired guys, a racist thing, or a just doing your job thing. Idk. But what I've said before and the stance lm currently taking is, "In the whole scheme of things it really doesn't matter, and 9 times out of 10 its not the ref that's outta line its the athlete, and ok, maybe it wasn't great, but life goes on and so what?"
There will always be some sort of discrimination. I garuntee that's not the last time this kids going to be dissapointed. Shit happens, this is small, and also debatable, so quit acting like its genocide.. They didn't storm his door and pin him down and cut his hair, they were following a wrestling guideline that they make all kids follow, so it's a lil more complex than just a cut and dry racist incident, (imo).. If it comes out that this truly was as bad as the media is making it out to be then ill eat my words, it's just ime these outrages are typically just that, over excitation and attention mongering with an underlying drive to sell news no matter the consequence..
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zeddd
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What do you mean by the above? Racists are hateful oppressors, f them all, am I “in”? (done for likes)
ChiefRunningPhist
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Wow! What balls! That took courage! I am so impressed! Yo everybody! Like this guys comment! Lmao
Its just stating the obvious, for attention. So people will go, "oh jee, what a real stand up guy." No shit racism is bad, but were so triggered right now with any little thing that we leap before we look and that type of mentality is cancerous to the actual problem at hand. And all for attention and likes, its selfish, not selfless..
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Now you better like my dam post! Lmao
I like attention, everyone does or I think so, that's why I post (if its genuinely not for knowledge firstly), but anyways I saw the title and thought I'd throw a different point of view out there.. Happy smokes
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hierarchy established; suck-up initiated..dude..he's not trump.
why do blackppo call american whites 'european'?
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zeddd
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You misunderstood my irony, nice ad hominem but it suggests you are in a hole and digging. Why is it “IN” to “hate on” racists? and why do you think anti racists are disingenuous attention seekers?
ChiefRunningPhist
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Your misrepresenting the situation. The title of this thread is "No wonder why blacks hate whites", authored by a white girl, about a subject she's has no experience with about a culture she is foreign too, so that's what I'm talking about when I'm referring to its so IN right now to hate on racists. Its not the fact that understanding that racism is bad its the fact they choose to exploit the situation for attention regardless of the merit of the incident they'd like to use for attention. Or their fake outrage given their proximity to the incident and knowledge surrounding it.
Theres mass hysteria because racism has been politicized. It is sad because racism crosses all borders and political boundaries and is real and not something to try to weaponize politically because the reality of the situation is whether the dems or repubs win whatever they are fighting over, there will still be racism because nobody cared to actually change anything, they just want to use it as a means to propel their position forward..
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thank you for coming to the party..can i take your coat?..please leave the gift on the counter in the kitchen..shall we begin?
did you read my first sentence AFTER the title?
everyone suffers from racism including you to a degree.
yes, deliberately provocative to get people to think..jim crow is alive and well..they didn't just cut the neck area..it moved me as if he were MY son and i was HIS mother. no racism- just a mom looking at a child..this devastated me..if i could reach inside the YT, i would've grabbed those scissors and taken kirstjen nielsens eyes out. such a poor optic.
we still have thousands of votes sitting in opa-locka mail distribution.
desantis says he must now make laws that aren't defined on felon referendum which passed by and large.
it is fair to believe my title is accurate.
i disagree.
zeddd
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Don’t mind @schuylaar many have her on intermittent ignore, I’ve rolled her off my ignore list for Christmas.
Who are “they”? You started in the singular then moved to plural, it suggests an underlying inconsistency between your thoughts and your posts here.